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Originally Posted by preludejtstyle View Post

Thw WDY65 has dark detailer. I imagine that about the only reason the MSRP for the CC exclusive costs more money, when its missing features the 731 has, with the exception of the dark detailer.

Did you mean that the WDY65 is missing the features of the 732?

I thought it was a 731 with a different name tag and as you just pointed out it has the dark detailer.

Sorry, as a newbie, this is all this is pretty confusing right now.

THanks
Jim
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[quote=woodyww]Hit "MENU" then "2-4-5-7". You should then be in the service menu. QUOTE]


Just outta curiousity, how'd you find out about the service menu code?
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Originally Posted by preludejtstyle View Post

Thw WDY65 has dark detailer. I imagine that about the only reason the MSRP for the CC exclusive costs more money, when its missing features the 731 has, with the exception of the dark detailer.

Like the follow-up poster said...I don't think the Y series is missing anything from the 731....just doesn't have everything the 732 has. How did you confirm that the "Y" series has Dark Detailer? Maybe I can live with regular black vs high gloss black if I can get CC to give me the "Y" series at the same price point I can get the 731 at. The only other things it wouldn't have at that point (vs the 732) are PerfectTint, DeepField Imager and SharpEdge.
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Originally Posted by igorick View Post

Like the follow-up poster said...I don't think the Y series is missing anything from the 731....just doesn't have everything the 732 has. How did you confirm that the "Y" series has Dark Detailer? Maybe I can live with regular black vs high gloss black if I can get CC to give me the "Y" series at the same price point I can get the 731 at. The only other things it wouldn't have at that point (vs the 732) are PerfectTint, DeepField Imager and SharpEdge.

The reason I'm still skeptical is that you think they'd definitely highlight Dark Detailer in the specs but they don't mention it on the Mits site. http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/j/i/18326?cid=485 - On the 732 they list all the features and show Dark Detailer right between "TurboLight 150 and Plush 1080P". On the "Y" series specs there's no listing of Dark Detailer.
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The Y Series PDF shows two additional features - a cable card slot, and A/V adjustments by input source.
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Originally Posted by tmayfield View Post

The Y Series PDF shows two additional features - a cable card slot, and A/V adjustments by input source.

Nevermind - optorectalitis when I read the PDF's -Sorry
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Thread Starter 
FYI to everyone... please do NOT PM me about this TV. I have returned it and no longer own it. I continue to be amazed how many people still PM me about this TV. I am no longer any help to you, sorry!
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[quote=HeyDude777]
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Originally Posted by woodyww View Post

Hit "MENU" then "2-4-5-7". You should then be in the service menu. QUOTE]


Just outta curiousity, how'd you find out about the service menu code?

I have a 2 year old WD-62525. This forum had a very good tweaks and tips section for that series TV. It's probably still on here somewhere. I just took a flyer and tried the service menu access code from that TV and it worked on the 65-731. You can also hit "Menu" and "2-4-7-0" and see which version of software you are running and how many hours on the lamp.

Just outta curiosity, why are you so interested on how I found out about the menu codes?
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I've had the 65731 for quite some time now and have been extremely happy with it. But today I noticed something disturbing and maybe someone can clarify it.

I was excited to see my first HD football opener today and was very impressed. But I noticed at times of fast motion I see something that looks like white sparks or flashes in the background. It happens and is most noticeable when there is a close up on a football player jogging back to the sideline. They appear in the out of focus background. There are like many of them in a row and random places. It happens every single time they focus on a player with background motion. I'm glad that I did not see much pixelation even at fast speeds which was my biggest concern, but now this sparkle is annoying.

Can someone confirm that they saw this happen? Can this be fixed?
post #1090 of 9376
Could that maybe be SSE? Silk screen effect....was it white jersey's?
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I noticed this when camera flashes were going off...could be wrong, but it sounds like what I saw.
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I am going to buy a 65831 and was wondering how the 65731 fits in a corner, I saw a 57731 and it looks kind of square in back. Thanks.
post #1093 of 9376
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Originally Posted by CHAS ZOSS View Post

I am going to buy a 65831 and was wondering how the 65731 fits in a corner, I saw a 57731 and it looks kind of square in back. Thanks.

I got a drawing of it somehow and it looks like to me it should push back into a corner wall almost to the edge of the screen front as the back forms a 90 degree.
post #1094 of 9376
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Originally Posted by bchboy1206 View Post

Did you mean that the WDY65 is missing the features of the 732?

I thought it was a 731 with a different name tag and as you just pointed out it has the dark detailer.

Sorry, as a newbie, this is all this is pretty confusing right now.

THanks
Jim

This entire situation has been carefully planned and constructed for exactly that reason. The deception here is that the case is 732 black and it is even shares the 732 owners manual. Next the 732 manual omits discussing the features that the 732 has over the 731. This is because the CC house brand does not include them. So the CC house brand is made to look like a 732 to the casual or even knowledgable customer who then (mis)thinks he is getting a great deal especially when CC "will readily work with him". Here CC is still making a great profit and the customers walks away with what he thinks is a great deal. All is pre-planned and is similar to the set-up techniques that Wall street uses to sell "hot"stocks at peak prices.

There may be other cost-cut areas inside that we may never know about. Again I will repeat: stay away from the CC house brands if you want the best PQ. For the last irony BB and Conns are currently selling the real 731 for less than CC is selling their piece...
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Originally Posted by reincarnate View Post

This entire situation has been carefully planned and constructed for exactly that reason. The deception here is that the case is 732 black and it is even shares the 732 owners manual. Next the 732 manual omits discussing the features that the 732 has over the 731. This is because the CC house brand does not include them. So the CC house brand is made to look like a 732 to the casual or even knowledgable customer who then (mis)thinks he is getting a great deal especially when CC "will readily work with him". Here CC is still making a great profit and the customers walks away with what he thinks is a great deal. All is pre-planned and is similar to the set-up techniques that Wall street uses to sell "hot"stocks at peak prices.

There may be other cost-cut areas inside that we may never know about. Again I will repeat: stay away from the CC house brands if you want the best PQ. For the last irony BB and Conns are currently selling the real 731 for less than CC is selling their piece...

Curious what has you thinking the "Y" series is some kind of scam? There's not been any facts provided on this forum that shows it having any less features than the 731 and we know it has a few features of the 732. It simply sounds like it was meant to be an in-between set (731 plus). It's priced that way, too. The good news is the CC salespeople and even manager I've spoken to have no clue about these sets so I've got them convinced it's the exact same as the 731 and should be priced the same way. The big question, though, is whether is has Dark Detailer. One poster said it did but I'm still waiting for a reply as to why he thinks that since it's not listed on the spec sheet.
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Oh...one more thing....no educated consumer is going to confuse the "Y" series for the 732. The "Y" is a flat or dull black.....the 732 is a high gloss black....very big difference in appearance.
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Originally Posted by hdtme View Post

I got a drawing of it somehow and it looks like to me it should push back into a corner wall almost to the edge of the screen front as the back forms a 90 degree.

Looks more like 70 degrees:
Dimension PDF
post #1098 of 9376
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Originally Posted by igorick View Post

Oh...one more thing....no educated consumer is going to confuse the "Y" series for the 732. The "Y" is a flat or dull black.....the 732 is a high gloss black....very big difference in appearance.

I don't know why you want to go on. Perhaps we have a vested insider interest?
First no consumer has seen the 732 because it has not been released.

The CC house brand is much closer to the 732 black than the 731 grey. Flat or gloss finish is secondary.

The fact is the CC house brand performance actually trails the higher performance 731. I would be much less critical if the 731 and the CC house brand shared the same manual.

The risk of deception is exposure, which tends to get the perpetrators agitated.
So like one more thing: where did the porno post go? I guess I'll have to go watch HDNET instead. Get Out!
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Originally Posted by reincarnate View Post

I don't know why you want to go on. Perhaps we have a vested insider interest?
First no consumer has seen the 732 because it has not been released.

The CC house brand is much closer to the 732 black than the 731 grey. Flat or gloss finish is secondary.

The fact is the CC house brand performance actually trails the higher performance 731. I would be much less critical if the 731 and the CC house brand shared the same manual.

The risk of deception is exposure, which tends to get the perpetrators agitated.
So like one more thing: where did the porno post go? I guess I'll have to go watch HDNET instead. Get Out!

Vested interest? Hardly. Just trying to get myself the best possible deal so I'm trying to get facts instead of speculation. When you say "The fact is the CC house brand performance actually trails the higher performance 731" .......what is that based on? Are you saying you've looked at both the "Y" and the "731" and you thought the "731" had a noticeably better picture? Do any others on this board share that same view?
post #1100 of 9376
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Originally Posted by preludejtstyle View Post

Could that maybe be SSE? Silk screen effect....was it white jersey's?

It sort of happened with white colors on the jersey or the helmets. I'm positive they were not camera flashes. It sort of looks like the white marks cannot catch up to the action. Even my wife noticed, very obvious. Does not happen with anything else. It also happens in SD. Only with football for some reason.
post #1101 of 9376
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Originally Posted by mannyman2 View Post

I see something that looks like white sparks or flashes in the background. It happens and is most noticeable when there is a close up on a football player jogging back to the sideline. Can someone confirm that they saw this happen? Can this be fixed?

Manny,
I have the 65731 and have not seen anything like this. I have watched both pre-season games in HD and have had nothing but stunning, beautiful picture. It looked so good even my wife pulled up a chair and watched 20 mins of the game with me just to gawk at the picture!

It may be a problem with your feed. I don't know otherwise. Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by jmiyake View Post

Got my 57731 delivered the 2 days ago. I chose it because it was quite bright and had the best anti-glare screen. (Oh yeah, it looked great too! 1080p, great color, yadda yadda...)

The room has a 13' long southern facing window oriented 90 degrees to the television, light colored walls and a white ceiling, canned lights in the ceiling, and a chrystal chandelier on the otherside of the room directly opposite the television! (The salesperson looked at me like I was mad, since everytime he showed me a television I would bend down close to the floor to see how much the showroom lights glitted off the screen!)

I am very happy with the television. It deals with the light challenged enviornment well.

It didn't look very good with the S-Video signal from my old 480i dvd player... so I had to upgrade! An upconverting dvd player with hdmi made all the difference.

No hd content yet, I just blew my budget.

So the good news is:
Bright enough.
Anti-glare works well. Lets face it, light shining on the screen washes things out, but there are no strong reflections.
No screendoor at all.
No rainbow effect. I see rainbows on many DLPs but not on this on in normal viewing...yet. I haven't watch anything black and white yet but I am happy.

I can see pixelation effects from about 8 feet away, much closer than that it becomes rather distracting. My viewing distance is beyond this and the picture is amazingly clear and sharp.

I adjusted the brightness during the daytime, so that makes it somewhat too bright at night. I shall have to think about this setting.

I have noticed the lack of dark detail, but life is a tradeoff.

But I am very happy, I love my Mitsubishi, it is the best tv I have owned.

James

I got a 52631 yesterday; I have a very similar glare environment as you and had similar reactions to the set.
One thing I noticed is that the picture mode can make a difference in shadow detail. Switching from brilliant to bright or natural would make shadow detail much better in some scenes. I might find it necessary to change modes for daytime or nightime viewing. (Natural also fixed what was, to my eyes, an out of the box exaggerated color saturation) I'm going to try some 'dark' movies like The Replacement Killers and see how much the settings affect dark detail
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Hi Ron,

Congrats on your purchase. That is correct. The DVI input is a PC input (PC DVI-I).

Scott

Could you give us an idea when would be a good time in lamp hours to consider an ISF Calibration?

What would you suggest as a guideline?
150watt and my turbo-beacon 180W

Thanks
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Originally Posted by igorick View Post

Curious what has you thinking the "Y" series is some kind of scam? There's not been any facts provided on this forum that shows it having any less features than the 731 and we know it has a few features of the 732. It simply sounds like it was meant to be an in-between set (731 plus). It's priced that way, too. The good news is the CC salespeople and even manager I've spoken to have no clue about these sets so I've got them convinced it's the exact same as the 731 and should be priced the same way. The big question, though, is whether is has Dark Detailer. One poster said it did but I'm still waiting for a reply as to why he thinks that since it's not listed on the spec sheet.

I called the Mitsubishi techncial assistance line and they confirmed that the Circuit City "Y" series does not have the dark detailer. They said it is identical to the 731 except it is in a flat black (not the high gloss black of the 732) and adds 2 small features....the OS TV guide (big deal!) and the NetCommand with IR Learning. With an MSRP $100 more than the 731 it still seems like the 731 and 732 represent better values.
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Originally Posted by tenguru View Post

Could you give us an idea when would be a good time in lamp hours to consider an ISF Calibration?

What would you suggest as a guideline?
150watt and my turbo-beacon 180W

Thanks

Teach,

Have you heard any more about the delivery date for your 831? Several sources are now claiming the 831 won't show until September.
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Originally Posted by reincarnate View Post

I provide the facts and you provide the attempt speculation and confusion in anger. These are not attributes of a consumer shopping for the highest performance display. Rather of someone doing damage control. Your new identity just been added to my ignore list.

Please refer any other questions to you local Circuit City sales associate. They (just like the good folks at Radio Shack) should have all the answers.
Have a nice day!

Nice people skills. You said you spoke the facts and I challenged you to explain why you thought the "Y" was an inferior product to the 731. Instead of answering me your value added response was that I'm someone that has a new identity with some kind of agenda. Well, rather than take your highly scientific analysis at face value I called up Mitsbuishi directly and you see the results above. So the FACTS are that the "Y" has the exact same picture quality as the "731" but, in my opinion, is not as good of a value. Unless of course you also think the Mitsubishi techs are out to scam us. If so, I hear Oliver Stone is looking for some more movie ideas and would love to hear from you.

All you have to do is stop and read all my posts (no more than 20) and you'll see that my sole agenda has been to make an educated decision on my upcoming TV purchase and to get the best deal I can on the TV set I want.
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CC may have shot themselves in the foot because they still are going to have to price match the 731 with the other stores because those features don't really add value. Next subject, it's hard for me to comprehend how the 732 and 831 can improve the PQ over the 731. The reason I didn't wait was I doubted if I would notice a benefit. I was also told the 732 will retail for ~ $500 more than the 731...this from an Anderson's sales person...haven't checked the online prices.

edit...just checked and it is just a $200 difference.
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[quote=tenguru]Could you give us an idea when would be a good time in lamp hours to consider an ISF Calibration?

Usually between 40-80 hours

Scott
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Originally Posted by longshot View Post

Teach,

Have you heard any more about the delivery date for your 831? Several sources are now claiming the 831 won't show until September.

I am frothing at the mouth.... what can I say... What REP is MisRepping.... and who is Mistaken... Is one actually lying........ I know as much as you and as little as anyone else.

Here is what I DO KNOW for FACT!
Heard 2 reps talking releasing the 831 slightly ahead is some kind of Market Strat... Show the Shine at high end..... glow at the LOW!
Establish a middle and go from there.

Who knows about real dates as even the reps at diff spots are talking diff dates.

I was mishandled at the retail level and as compensation I was given, basically a 831 for the price of what most of you overpaid for on your 65731/WD-Y/Cosco's own)?

If you ever dealth with me as a buyer and already made mitsakes that cost your company thousands, then go to the trouble of making all better (Nice and then some ) would you then lie about delivery date when that is what got you behind the 8 ball in the first place.

Those are FACTS.... so help me GOD/JESUS/BUDDA/ZORRASTER?MOH.... well you get it.

Draw your own conclusions base on facts and speckulate from there.

"Teach"

Playing with the most kickass speakers I ever reved up for the dollars...
They mke my Yama ROAR and for pennies ..... I got the first & my bud got the second... AWESOME BASS for HT and Music

http://www.digitaladvisor.com/home-t...8_reviews.html

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[quote=teachsac]
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Originally Posted by tenguru View Post

Could you give us an idea when would be a good time in lamp hours to consider an ISF Calibration?

Usually between 40-80 hours

Scott

Really thought it would be a couple a hundred at least. That's great news...
Anyone done it yet?
Love to hear what the Calibrator thought about the color temp...
Does it have a better middle temp...or is it the same as older models.

Your opinon on the do it yourself disc's to get you part way better pic... Avia or DVE? I want a pro cal my self , but maybe your pro opinon for others.

Also can you recomend anyone you know out this way...
Putting out feelers early.... staring at a wall that will soon be a HD Window
into another dimension of time and space........

"Teach" in "LEARN" MODE!
Thanks you are a valuable resourse. on this forum....
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