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post #151 of 9409
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FYI to everyone... we watched Fantastic 4 tonight and IT blew me away. Freakin' great.
post #152 of 9409
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FYI to everyone... we watched Fantastic 4 tonight and I blew me away. Freakin' great.

LMAO!! Wanna rephrase that?
post #153 of 9409
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LMAO!! Wanna rephrase that?

Hey... it's late
post #154 of 9409
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Originally Posted by pbmpharmacist View Post

FYI to everyone... we watched Fantastic 4 tonight and IT blew me away. Freakin' great.

That's some talents you got there .... hehe
post #155 of 9409
I've read and re-read his comment and I don't see what was so funny... but it's late here *too* so maybe I need more sleep before my mind goes into the gutter and I get it?

Glad to hear the TV is rocking, I gotta say a good price can dominate a decision especially when the item is like 90-95% of what you wanted to start off with.
post #156 of 9409
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I've read and re-read his comment and I don't see what was so funny... but it's late here *too* so maybe I need more sleep before my mind goes into the gutter and I get it?

Glad to hear the TV is rocking, I gotta say a good price can dominate a decision especially when the item is like 90-95% of what you wanted to start off with.

lipcrkr got the quote ... mine was a bit late cuz pbm went in and changed it
post #157 of 9409
I made a wood frame to simulate the size if different sets and see how they fit in the room. The 71" is just too big. The Mits 65" is as big as Id like and 61" would be the smallest. I think Ill wait for the 732 65" version with the improved contrast ratio. I knew there was a reason they didnt list the spec for the 731 series.
post #158 of 9409
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I made a wood frame to simulate the size if different sets and see how they fit in the room. The 71" is just too big. The Mits 65" is as big as Id like and 61" would be the smallest. I think Ill wait for the 732 65" version with the improved contrast ratio. I knew there was a reason they didnt list the spec for the 731 series.

That's probably the sweet spot for value
post #159 of 9409
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I probably won't provide much feedback over the next couple days. I'm having an issue with my HDMI swithing A/V receiver (issue has abosutely nothing to do with the TV) that I think is going to consume my time.
post #160 of 9409
Be sure to keep us posted as soon as HD comes in (Thursday right?)
post #161 of 9409
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yeah, thursday. I don't see how it could look any better than upscaled Fantastic 4. RBE was present though
post #162 of 9409
DVD is mastered at 480p IIRC, even if the TV/DVD/Whatever is upscaling, it's making something out of nothing (line doubling? etc? not sure), but with a good 720p or 1080i signal comming from a channel like Discovery HD, you might get more of a wow... although a full HD signal is roughly 19mb/sec and last time I checked DTV/Dish/Cable tend to compress the signals down to around 12mb/sec which is still quite reasonable, although DTV has been notorious for raping some signals with compression so hard that it's sometimes more frustrating than watching a DVD.
post #163 of 9409
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That's probably the sweet spot for value

yea....and sweet spot for size for me too. Thats the only mfr making that size DLP with the 7th gen light engine. I think I hear August when 732 models would start to appear. So im tunnelvisioned on that mfr/model. Turns out a 65" 16:9 screen will equal the size of my 53" 4:3 TV, when 4:3 material is viewed on the 65". That of course without any stretch or other distortion to fill the entire screen. IN that mode there would be grey or black bars on each side of the picture.

What does the Mitsubishi do with the screen when looking at 4:3 material? Do you have options to make it grey or black or other?

thanks!
post #164 of 9409
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Originally Posted by rsk View Post

DVD is mastered at 480p IIRC, even if the TV/DVD/Whatever is upscaling, it's making something out of nothing (line doubling? etc? not sure), but with a good 720p or 1080i signal comming from a channel like Discovery HD, you might get more of a wow... although a full HD signal is roughly 19mb/sec and last time I checked DTV/Dish/Cable tend to compress the signals down to around 12mb/sec which is still quite reasonable, although DTV has been notorious for raping some signals with compression so hard that it's sometimes more frustrating than watching a DVD.

I understand a DVD is only 480i but I have a fairly nice DVD player and upscaled DVDs look really good on this TV. Much better than I expected.
post #165 of 9409
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Originally Posted by tranzixter View Post

yea....and sweet spot for size for me too. Thats the only mfr making that size DLP with the 7th gen light engine. I think I hear August when 732 models would start to appear. So im tunnelvisioned on that mfr/model. Turns out a 65" 16:9 screen will equal the size of my 53" 4:3 TV, when 4:3 material is viewed on the 65". That of course without any stretch or other distortion to fill the entire screen. IN that mode there would be grey or black bars on each side of the picture.

What does the Mitsubishi do with the screen when looking at 4:3 material? Do you have options to make it grey or black or other?

thanks!

I have it set at SD with black completely around the picture, exactly as you describe. I didn't see options to change the "black bar" color but I wouldn't change it anyway as black is good. To me, it's when they are gray and you can't change them to back that it's a problem.
post #166 of 9409
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I have it set at SD with black completely around the picture, exactly as you describe. I didn't see options to change the "black bar" color but I wouldn't change it anyway as black is good. To me, it's when they are gray and you can't change them to back that it's a problem.

I agree. I think the Samsung is grey which is distracting. I much prefer the black border too. Great to hear the Mits is doing that.
post #167 of 9409
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I agree. I think the Samsung is grey which is distracting. I much prefer the black border too. Great to hear the Mits is doing that.

I've never seen a "gray" bar on a Samsung DLP. Which one are you referring to?
post #168 of 9409
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I've never seen a "gray" bar on a Samsung DLP. Which one are you referring to?

on the sides when you watch a 4:3 size on the 16:9 screen. I asked the salesman if they could be changed from grey to other and he didnt think so but that was hlr model.
post #169 of 9409
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I agree. I think the Samsung is grey which is distracting. I much prefer the black border too. Great to hear the Mits is doing that.

My 6767 displays either gray or black bars on 4:3 content depending on the network I'm watching.
post #170 of 9409
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My 6767 displays either gray or black bars on 4:3 content depending on the network I'm watching.

The gray or black bars are coming from the source.

I've probably got my Comcast STB set to do black, but I don't remember (two years ago ) making a choice when I configured the STB. You may have a choice.

The gray bars are intended to protect CRT based RPTV sets and Plasma.
post #171 of 9409
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yeah, thursday. I don't see how it could look any better than upscaled Fantastic 4. RBE was present though

Hey PB--I see you moving along in the 2006 sony thread too..
So whats the deal are you going to return because of RBE ?
Also pm what you paid for this set. Looks pretty sweet.
RBE is a big killer for me....Ive never seen them I dont think but then again I dont own a dlp. I saw a demo of what to look for and it pretty much made me only look at LCOS sets. As long as the new Sonys arent ridiculously priced or inferior to the current SXRD's in picture quality I am in for either a 55" or a 60".
By the way anyone recall the dimensions on these new models ? I dont want to go thru 200 pages of posts...
post #172 of 9409
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Hey PB--I see you moving along in the 2006 sony thread too..
So whats the deal are you going to return because of RBE ?
Also pm what you paid for this set. Looks pretty sweet.
RBE is a big killer for me....Ive never seen them I dont think but then again I dont own a dlp. I saw a demo of what to look for and it pretty much made me only look at LCOS sets. As long as the new Sonys arent ridiculously priced or inferior to the current SXRD's in picture quality I am in for either a 55" or a 60".
By the way anyone recall the dimensions on these new models ? I dont want to go thru 200 pages of posts...

I'm keeping my options open. I'm hoping that I'll get used to it but RBE is very distracting thus far
post #173 of 9409
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Originally Posted by pbmpharmacist View Post

I'm keeping my options open. I'm hoping that I'll get used to it but RBE is very distracting thus far

You know the solution, it's just a question if you are man enough to do it... *hands pbm a butter knife and a mirror*

you'll have to undo the laser eye correction surgery!

or the alternative, which is to keep a pair of Blue Blockers next to the TV that you wear whenever you are watching it.
post #174 of 9409
The new Mitsubishi color wheel spins at 14,400 RPMs. As far as Rainbow Effect, I have not seen it on the WD-57731 and I had LASIK performed two years ago. Mitsubishi kills the Samsung in detail, brightness, and noise reduction. I studied on two different sales floors. Not to mention that I prefer the non-glare cabinet (I could shave off the Samsung cosmetics). The SXRD screen frame is also too reflective for my tastes and keeps fingerprints pretty well. Also like the height-adjustable shelf on the Mits base, which is also deep for my components.
I was sold when the sales associate told me that Mitsubishi's are designed and engineered in the US unlike most of the other manufacturers.

I would much rather take DLP technology over LCoS any day. People can disagree but one chip is better than dealing with misalignment, aging, or convergence of 3 chips. Gotta love the green / yellow blob on the SXRD!

post #175 of 9409
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I was sold when the sales associate told me that Mitsubishi's are designed and engineered in the US unlike most of the other manufacturers.

I'm amazed.
post #176 of 9409
Does the 731 series offer any sort of a Game Mode (especially for 480i and 1080i) that will eliminate lag?
post #177 of 9409
SoundBoy, I do have to say your words ring promissingly in my ear. After seeing pbm's reaction to the Mitsu, hearing about some bigger/newer models and that it's made here in the US, I'm going to go out of my way to include them in my evaluation later this year when it's time to buy. I'm going to take my wife along and we'll make a week of it or something and just check out 2 or 3 models that are in the drawing and see which one impresses us consistently the most.
post #178 of 9409
RSK -

If the prices are anything like they are now, both your wife and wallet will be pleased. I've had old Mitsubishi CRT sets and they lasted forever. I also read in Consumer Reports that Mitsubishi was rated #1 for reliability and service. That goes far in my book.

Should I have waited? Maybe. But with the NHL / NBA playoffs and World Cup, I needed to pull the trigger. I would've gone with the step-up model had it been out now. I wouldn't mind the extra component input, along with the Memory Card reader. What made the setup so easy is that I didn't have to remember what device I plugged into each input. The TV has Auto-Input Sensing. Just asked me what I wanted to call it and I was done! This would be another reason why I'd buy the step-up model. The input sensing will make their NetCommand so much nicer.

I thought the Samsung blacks were crushed. I also noticed their skintones were pinkish-orange. The SXRD was way too oversaturated and their picture was extremely soft - which defeats the purpose of a HIGH DEFINITION TV. If I'm buying another HD set, I want detail.

I also love the fact that the buttons are behind a door. I don't want my kid touching the TV and pressing buttons. This will totally prevent this. My wife loves the remote since it's not cluttered. The buttons are laid out well and easy to read. If you have a drawer full of remotes, you'll know what I mean. My Kenwood receiver remote is the worst offender.
post #179 of 9409
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Does the 731 series offer any sort of a Game Mode (especially for 480i and 1080i) that will eliminate lag?

No game mode, but I noticed NO lag on my XBOX. My brother has their LCD RPTV from last year and it didn't have lag either. I had no problem taking him on in Madden 2006!

I read from other posts that the Samsung models were guilty but maybe their new game mode fixes that.
post #180 of 9409
I compared the new 61" Samsung to the 628 Mitsubishi and the 50" SXRD. This 61" Samsung wasn't as bright as some of the others that I have seen. Also, the 628 Mits (not the new one in this thread) actually had more detail in dark areas. At least in this viewing, I'm just not that impressed by the Samsung. And with light in the room on a mostly black screen, both of the different Samsungs that I've seen haven't had as deep of blacks as the sets around them. And as far as the SXRD is concerned, the 628 Mits DLP is much brighter than it. And I'm fairly sure it's probably been out on the floor longer than the SXRD. I'm looking forward to seeing the new Mits. Too bad I need to finish my HT in the basement before a purchase.

I'm also anxious to hear true MSRP pricing for the 65732, 65831, 73732, and the 73831. Shouldn't be too much longer and no details yet.
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