2007 Mitsubishi WD-XX73X and XX831 Owner's Thread - Page 54

OK. THanks! I see. I spose I could live without it. On occasion there are ambient light issues when watching my TV (i have 53" SOny XBR CRT RPTV that reflects like a mirror!) but its not a problem generally as most my viewing is at night anyway. And if I can live with the mirror I have now, the 732 Mits should only be an improvement.

Thanks again

Has anybody seen a .pdf Owners Guide or Manual for the 732 series or any of the 2007 Mitsubishi's? Or did I miss it somewhere?

It's too bad that Mitsubishi's web site isn't very up to date considering people (including myself) are getting one soon or already have these tv's. I wish they had the info online like Samsung does. It would make it a lot easier to see the details of these new Mits TVs.

Yea your right. It has been very helpful for me to view manuals to understand what a TV feature set is etc. But sometimes that can get you in trouble as often the same manual might be used across several models. Sorry. I have looked as well can cannot find a MIts manual.

Does anyone know the outside dimensions of the shipping box for a 65731 or 732?

I might need to borrow a pickup truck if it wont fit in van. Last time I looked at a 67" Samsung and it would not fit in van. I suspect no luck here either.

No way. You'll need a truck. I couldn't fit a 52 Tosh in the back of a van. I can't see that monster fitting. (unless you're talking about a commercial style van of course)

Can you clarify...it's been a while since I saw the CC version...but I was pretty sure it was just a matte black (dull not shiny) and, thus, was definitely different (and not as nice in my opinion) as the high glass black of the 732s and 831s. I've already got an 831 on order but I just want to make sure those still deciding get all the details right.

Thanks for the question. Yes, I would have to call it more of a matte black than a glossy black, sorry for the confusion.

It is definitely better looking than the lighter colored black (dark grey?) cabinet that the one at Best Buy (731).

PARASITE,

Are you back from the line show yet? We are waiting for your in depth review of the 65831.

I saw it yesterday as well. The CC models, both WDY57 and WDY65 are matte black.

The 732 and 831 will be high gloss black plus have Dark Detailer & Pure Tint which the CC sets will not/do not have. I saw a video demo of the dark detailer, and trust me, it is a deal-breaker without it. When side-by-side its obvious which had it and which didn't. Very noticeable difference.

I can see it now: An ad for the new Mitsubihi sets, featuring Darth Detailer, Lord of Shadows

If this is true that the Dark Detailer can make that much of a difference...then I must think that the 732 and 831 blows away the Samsungs 87/88, Sony A200 and XBR1.

You know what's strange, I was given a demo of the Dark Detailer on one of last year's models....a 627 or 628 I think. Whichever one let them go split screen so that one side had Dark Detailer enable and one didn't. In that mode, yes, it was very noticeable that the side with Dark Detailer had much better black and shadow detail. It was during a World Cup game and you could see much better detail in the shadows of the different color greens of the field. However, when they turned it off i then compared two sets side by side...one that had Dark Detailer and one that didn't. At that point I could hardly notice the difference. I think we'll appreciate it...but mostly because the price differences are so low there's no reason not to trade-up.

John, Still waiting for those measurements! Thanks. Chas

Westsa6969 - Thanks - this is exactly the technical response I was looking for. I do intend on maximizing the set's potential with proper source content.

I'm not a channel surfer. I'm interested in viewing sports, movies, and to a lesser extent video gamming so I should benefit from HD.

It's good to know this short viewing distance would not detract PQ. I'm torn between getting the size I feel is right for my space (52") AND getting 57732 with all the enhancements it has over the 631 series. Seems like 732 series is a flat out better value for the money.

Who knows... maybe CC will come out with some "Y" series and beefs up a 52"

Yes - will probably be moving in about a year and will look to have the set grow with my space. Would hate to get 52" 631 series and eventually have the space for 57" but did not pull the trigger and buck up on 732 series.

Can someone clarify the reason for the high contrast screen in the 831 series? Is the purpose of the screen to cut down on the SSE and give it a more plasma look or is it primarily to give a more contrasty look during daytime viewing? If it's the latter then the 732 series would be sufficient for me if i don't get the A2000.

Don't know if anyone is interested or cares, but there's a MITSUBISHI WD-Y57 WD-Y65 WD-57732 WD-65732 WD-73732 DLP
SERVICE MANUAL listed for auction on ebay, listing# 130019463332

I know nothing about the person auctioning the item nor do I know anything about the quality of the service manual being auctioned. I did do some searching around ebay and the web and there is no one else anywhere claiming to have this particular service manual.

Ok here is the info you all been waiting for!
I have to trickle this since I'm now back and at work again so I will put on a few points here and some more tommorow. OK first thing to know is these sets were still preproduction so as good as they looked they will only be better. The cosmetics are diffrent from what we saw at the show on the 831. Ok i will break things down in order.

High Contrast Screen
The screen is not a glass or plastic reflective screen.
The screen is darker when the tv is off.
The purpose for the High Contrast Screen is really a 4 benefit design.
#1 The high contrast screen restricts the amount of light into the image and increases the amount of light coming out. What that means is The dreaded SSE is all but eliminated because, the amount of light the screen lets in. Unlike the other sets, when you have a bright image on the screen it will not show SSE.Its the light these cheap screens let in that really show SSE. That is why you see it mostly on bright colors. From what I saw there was NO SSE AT ALL.
#2 The Screen increases light output by 10% Much brighter image at just natural lamp setting. These new Mits dlp all give 20% more light output without 20% less bulb life. "the turbo light 180 should last at the highest setting 4000hrs. Natural setting closer to 7000hrs.
#3 The screen increases contrast in colors Since you have a screen that limits the light going in, your colors can show more contrast, more natural contrast, very good contrast in bright colors especially when you pair that with the new lamp.
#4 Incredible black level "Omg is all i can say" This screen + the dark detailer and deep field imager produced the blackest blacks I have ever seen! We are talking CRT level blacks. For those who have bought the 731's and are not happy with the blacks, and can return it for the 831 you should if your budget allows it. Just to give you an example. we watched a clip of some concert footage and there was a woman with very black hair. on the 732,831 her hair was jet black with no noise and you could see the shine in her individual strands of hair. The shadow detail was incredible and remember I'm a SXRD owner now. The 731 would only show this amount of shadow detail if we cranked the brigtness, then her hair looked gray. The dark detailer, deep field imager makes that big of diffrence. Ok that is all for now but for those who are wondering yes the tv is like looking at a plasma and just the 732 has better blacks and shadow detail then the XBR1.

Stay tuned for more impression,facts,gaming info, ect.... Sorry i have to close the store now I wont be updating this till tommorow.

I wouldn't make a decision on speculation. There are some who have posted that they have actually seen an 831. Read their posts. Before you dismiss it, you may want to check the screen out for yourself.

[edit] Looks like Parasite's post got there before mine and makes my point.

I want one of these screens.

Well, after PARASITE's post it sounds like I am going to pull the tigger on a 57831. Now if I can get a decent price on one (Tweeter's is not that great). Hopefully it will be released prior to mid-Sept.

Parasite,
Could you please compare the 732 and 831? how much of a difference?

Thanks

about $500.00 worth.

Basically the high contrast screen is the only difference, however, why does the 732 series accept 720p on component and the 831 doesn't?

Sorry, I meant the PQ...just wanted to help me decide between the 732 and 831.

What does the 831 takes over component?

480i, 480p, 1080i.

It was mentined earlier that the 732 accepts 720p over component... so is that in addition to 480i, 480p, and 1080i... or is 720p, exclusively?

I cross compared 732 and 831 ABT and I ended up with 831 advantages:

TurboLight180® (versus 150) - Mitsubishi's patented lamp system design focuses light more efficiently to generate a 10% brighter on-screen image than that produced by a standard 180 watt lamp system.

Front IEEE 1394 with DV Decoder

Fully- Illuminated Remote

Additional Simple Remote (?)

Of course High Contrast Screen - I'd gladly take the screen for $500 if it's as good as reported.

You didn't say you might move to a bigger space in a year That makes it a whole new game...I say go for the 57 if can stand it at all at 8 feet now....you will be glad you have the bigger screen later!

One question about the 831 screen..since it reduces SSE greatly does the viewing angle range suffer at all compared to other RPTV's? If not this sounds great!