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post #31 of 586
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Originally Posted by Robert Holloway View Post

...Now I'm hearing that the 10-250 will not record HD CBS, NBC, Fox, ABC off the networks from my Direct TV.

Am I missing something here as it all plays perfectly well on my projector...

Any channel that plays on your TV via the 10-250 can be recorded by it.

As huberjgl said, you must be able to get HD locals over the air for the 10-250 to receive them (NY and LA excluded), but your statement sounds like you can do that. Or maybe you live in LA, in which case you can continue to watch/record the MPEG-2 local station transmissions from D*, just as you have in the past.
post #32 of 586
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Originally Posted by joetoronto View Post

no but what do you mean by "component sound", steelerhater?

the hr10-250 has two audio outputs...optical and component...I have the optical running to the receiver and the component going to the TV. The component to TV allows the wife and kids to use the TV straight up w/out the receiver. Both audios output simultaneously, so you can have the tv sound on while the receiver is on for DBS. I always mute the tv sound when using the receiver. Anyway, the optical is not outputting sound to the receiver anymore.....as a test, I took the component cables going to the tv and hooked up to the receiver...sound is fine..trouble is, can't use the tv straight up now.
post #33 of 586
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Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post

the hr10-250 has two audio outputs...optical and component...I have the optical running to the receiver and the component going to the TV. The component to TV allows the wife and kids to use the TV straight up w/out the receiver. Both audios output simultaneously, so you can have the tv sound on while the receiver is on for DBS. I always mute the tv sound when using the receiver. Anyway, the optical is not outputting sound to the receiver anymore.....as a test, I took the component cables going to the tv and hooked up to the receiver...sound is fine..trouble is, can't use the tv straight up now.

ah, i've always known those outputs as stereo outputs.

what happens when you turn the DD off on the HR10, does the optical work then?
post #34 of 586
no....I had dd on and it worked fine for about 4 months...took it off...still doesn't work...my dvd optical works in all three receiver ports so it's not my receiver...I'm not looking forward to dealing with Directv on this....the hard drive has been great so I hate to have to return the box...
post #35 of 586
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Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post

no....I had dd on and it worked fine for about 4 months...took it off...still doesn't work...my dvd optical works in all three receiver ports so it's not my receiver...I'm not looking forward to dealing with Directv on this....the hard drive has been great so I hate to have to return the box...


urgh...it looks like you don't have a choice then, steelerhater.
post #36 of 586
Thread Starter 
new HR10-250 shutting down on thermal

I bought an HR10-250 and it is shutting down on thermal:this is a second unit: I have had another HR-10-250 running for a year now with no trouble

I am aware of ventilation requirements and the info screen is showing 41-44C temperature which is within normal range: the unit runs for several hours before shutting down

are there any fixes to deal with this? I activated the card so it is not easy to return: if I call D* they will send me a refurbished unit
post #37 of 586
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Originally Posted by markrubin View Post

new HR10-250 shutting down on thermal

I bought an HR10-250 and it is shutting down on thermal:this is a second unit: I have had another HR-10-250 running for a year now with no trouble

I am aware of ventilation requirements and the info screen is showing 41-44C temperature which is within normal range: the unit runs for several hours before shutting down

are there any fixes to deal with this? I activated the card so it is not easy to return: if I call D* they will send me a refurbished unit

What software version is it running? I seem to recall that one version had a problem with the temperature sensor on the HDMI card. The fix might be as easy as using the component outputs until the box updates to 3.1.5f ...
post #38 of 586
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

What software version is it running? I seem to recall that one version had a problem with the temperature sensor on the HDMI card. The fix might be as easy as using the component outputs until the box updates to 3.1.5f ...

it is running 3.1.5f-01-903A-2481

funny you mention HDMI: that is how it is connected now while I am setting it up but HDMI will not be used normally:

I will switch over to component video and see how it behaves

Thanks for the response
post #39 of 586
Thread Starter 
more:

I finally got an HR10-250 that operates properly (in addition to one I have had for over a year)

first one shut down on thermal almost immediately: second replacement unit ran for about 30 minutes to shutdown: both with latest firmware connected thru HDMI: showed normal operating temps with good ventilation

Third unit received today works properly
post #40 of 586
To borrow from Professor Farnsworth from "Futurama", Good news everyone!
post #41 of 586
Does anyone have a list or link for the HR10-250 that includes all the tweaks the player is capable of? For example changing the playlist to alphabetical order & the sequence for the 30 second skip? Did a google search but no luck!

Thanks!

Steve
post #42 of 586
This may soon be moot, as the HR10-250 will soon be receiving a Version 6.3 software upgrade.
post #43 of 586
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Originally Posted by jhays View Post

This may soon be moot, as the HR10-250 will soon be receiving a Version 6.3 software upgrade.

Very interesting.....I see the link here:

http://directv.com/DTVAPP/global/con...setId=P3200006

So this will NOT allow the 30 second skip function to work anymore than? Also are there any other beneifts besides the ones D* mentions??

Thanks,

Steve
post #44 of 586
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Originally Posted by smitchell24 View Post

So this will NOT allow the 30 second skip function to work anymore than?

You'd have to re-program it in after the restart caused by the software upgrade. Since it was asked for in the post before yours, here 'tis:

-Start playing a recording from the "Now Playing" menu. Don't do it in Live TV

-Hit the following buttons in sequence: Select-Play-Select-3-0-Select

-Hit the skip-to-tick button (looks like this: ->) and it should skip ahead 30 seconds. If it goes to the end of the program, try again. If you have sound effects enabled you'll hear three dings to confirm it's programmed.

SORTing shows:

-In "Now Playing", hit the following buttons in sequence: Slow-0(Zero)-Record-Thumbs Up

If it goes through, you'll see a prompt that tells you to hit the Display button for your SORT options.
post #45 of 586
In the realm of idiosynracies, mine never gives me the three confirming dings. Well, it did the first time, but I've had to reset several times and it never has since. It still works as described above, though. If it doesn't ding, you might want to try it anyway. If it works, it will be okay, confirmation or not.
post #46 of 586
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

In the realm of idiosynracies, mine never gives me the three confirming dings. Well, it did the first time, but I've had to reset several times and it never has since. It still works as described above, though. If it doesn't ding, you might want to try it anyway. If it works, it will be okay, confirmation or not.

You won't get the dings if you are watching a DD 5.1 program.

TiVo sound effects are disabled when outputting digital audio.


Jery
post #47 of 586
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Originally Posted by huberjgl View Post

You won't get the dings if you are watching a DD 5.1 program...

Ooooh! I'd never noticed. Thanks for the info.
post #48 of 586
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Originally Posted by bidger View Post

-Hit the skip-to-tick button (looks like this: ->) and it should skip ahead 30 seconds. If it goes to the end of the program, try again. If you have sound effects enabled you'll hear three dings to confirm it's programmed.
.

Of course after awhile, one might come to the conclusion that it could be easier to hit the FF button twice and play once, rather than aquiring a case of carpal tunnel with multiple presses of -> followed by the enevitable "oops went too far", "RW" ... "play" sequence.

Of course, YMMV (as always.)
post #49 of 586
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Originally Posted by bidger View Post

To borrow from Professor Farnsworth from "Futurama", Good news everyone!

I'd like to hear from folks once they get it. Of course, like just about everyone one here, you tried calling in to see if you'd get it immediately. Didn't work for me on either box. Once we see it "in the wild," I'd like to hear from folks on their experiences with it. As much as I love the folders on my one SD TiVo, what I want more than anything else is the reduction in time when doing anything - searching, season pass editing, browsing the current listings, etc.

Deez
post #50 of 586
once dtv rolls out the update it will come by sat and d/l to your HDD. then have it call in and will intialize the update to be installed. supposed to help with guide speed and hopefully other choice issues like setting up recordings, season passes etc, alphabetical sorting and folders.

when the updates start coming over sat you will see them noted in the forums pretty quickly.
post #51 of 586
Yep - I plugged in a phone line to my unit for the first time in 2 months and made a call. Although the call was successful, sadly no update. Guess I will have to leave it plugged in so it can make the call each day until the update downloads.

This is probably just a conspiracy just to get us to keep it plugged in.

One more thing - while my call was being made, I read the text screen that shows up when you hit "select" from the phone call status screen. The message mentions something about a pending status and the machine resetting itself at 2:00 am in order to load the new software. This was not a 6.x specific message, just a general information screen. Still, I'll probably check the unit in the morning to see if anything happened.
post #52 of 586
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...This is probably just a conspiracy just to get us to keep it plugged in...

I must be missing something, but what is the downside of that?

I know a lot of people don't keep their phone connection, but I've assumed it was just inconvenient for many of them to run a permanent phone connection to the box. If that's not the case, what is the objection?
post #53 of 586
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

I must be missing something, but what is the downside of that?

I know a lot of people don't keep their phone connection, but I've assumed it was just inconvenient for many of them to run a permanent phone connection to the box. If that's not the case, what is the objection?


I can't say that I really know. I believe D* cannot track your PPV purchases otherwise and Tivo may not get full access to your viewing habits. One other could be that since D* now has an alliance with BellSouth and other telco's to bundle its service, they want to encourage people to have land based telephone service. That is all that I can think of and am not even sure if these even apply.
post #54 of 586
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

I must be missing something, but what is the downside of that?

Put's a kink in "movers" secret evil plans ... (in addition to the PPV thing.)

Of course there's the paranoia aspect too. ... Oh and account "stackers" ...
post #55 of 586
I am contemplating changing out 3 LNB Dish for a 5 LNB Dish so I can be lined up for any new HD channels coming out through d* and I thought I'd check to see if there are others who have done this to get some feedback - positive or negative. I am keeping my current HR10-250s for SAT and OTA, but would like to get new HD channels when they come available (I know I will not be able to record with HR10-250 - sucks! and have to wait for the new DirecTV HD DVR to record MPEG4 stuff).
post #56 of 586
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

Put's a kink in "movers" secret evil plans ... (in addition to the PPV thing.)

Of course there's the paranoia aspect too. ... Oh and account "stackers" ...

Yeah, I should have asked if there was any downside for non-paranoid owners who are using the HR10-250 "legally."
post #57 of 586
there's allot of people out there subbing to directv and paying full dollar that can't connect to a phone line, just to be clear. some of them live in trailers, boats or RV's and some of them live outside the U.S.A.

it's not fair to paint everybody with the same brush and i think that's why directv hasn't cutoff those who don't use a phone line, they'd be throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
post #58 of 586
As far as the phone line thing - don't you need to be connected to get the guide updated for tivo?
post #59 of 586
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Originally Posted by BrettRyan View Post

As far as the phone line thing - don't you need to be connected to get the guide updated for tivo?

the tivo can use the information as the satellite downloads and makes it available to you. Just as you can go ahead and see what's coming up, so can the TIVO.

for some dumb reason, the thing still needs to make that initial call to get started, but then it works fine without a phone line.
post #60 of 586
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Originally Posted by joetoronto View Post

there's allot of people out there subbing to directv and paying full dollar that can't connect to a phone line, just to be clear. some of them live in trailers, boats or RV's and some of them live outside the U.S.A.

it's not fair to paint everybody with the same brush and i think that's why directv hasn't cutoff those who don't use a phone line, they'd be throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

I wasn't trying to cast aspersions. I really was just curious about why some people choose to not connect the phone line, even though they could.

I started out mentioning I recognized some people found it inconvenient to permanently connect a phone. Clearly, not having a land line would represent inconvenience extended to its maximum.
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