Westinghouse 42" LCD w/1080p Part II, MSRP ONLY - Page 21

Well, maybe I'm too old-fashioned, but I expect my car to have V6 engine under the hood, if the brochure said V6, and I paid for V6.

But maybe you right - I'm too spoiled - 4-cyl will also get me there, so who cares...

I'm kind of wondering the same thing. I plan to have my Westy connected to my PC and if I can save $200 by simply playing my DVDs from my computer then that seems to be the way to go (I also have an xbox 360). What DVD software will give the best "out of the box" quality without a ton of tweaking? Or are there any guides for getting the best DVD picture at 1920x1080?

htpcnews.com is your friend.

Also here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/dvd_decoder.html

How do you link the nVidia Decoder to Windows Media Player?

It should be the default, but to test it look for the Nvidia control panel to pop up in your taskbar when the codec is in use. There is also a free MS utility that shows all installed DVD decoders and lets you chose the priority.

It will run at 1280x720 and fill the screen, 1380X768 is the highest the 360 will go in VGA mode and when that rez is selected there is a black bar on both ends. I chose the highest rez that properly fills the screen which is 1280X1024

ZippoMan,

Check out TheaterTek. It uses NVidea decoder and has player/functions aimed for the HTPC crowd. Zoom Player is another very good option and allows using any different decoders or different versions of the NVidea one (the TT is tied to specific one which comes with it). I prefer TheaterTek itself for the out-of-box experience (though it also allows some tweaking too if you want to get into ffdshow etc...). Both have advantages/disadvantages so there's no right or wrong answer.

I also recommend checking out the Home Theater Computers forum here at AVS (the htpcnews.com site is another very good one).

A little off topic but there is an ign article I was reading on hdmi 1.3. Does anyone know if the westy with hdmi 1.3 takes advantage of any of this such as the improved color spectrum? I'd put up a link for the article but I can't, it's on ign's homepage though.

So far I think HDMI is a complete disaster, wish they would get everything straight with the version and HTPC, I hear lots and lots of issues with HDMI connections between equipment made by different companies.

Maybe, but I find it strange that Sceptre 37" from Costco (which I always considered inferior to Westis) manages to work perfectly with all my 1080p HDMI sources.....

And Westi's HDMI implementation is a complete disaster.....

I am also surprised that no one else has the samsung HD960. I'm still debating between the sammy and oppo dvd players. I haven't received the tv yet so I'm not sure which one i'll get. I'm hoping it's just your hdmi that has the problem, not everyone else's. But at the same time, i'm hoping its not your tv, bc i don't want you to have to return it.

Anyone else with that weird pixelated images fedex2go has?

I got my set in today from Crutchfield. I love it, no dead pixels, no banding that I can tell. Have only tested with my Philips 642 dvd player using component cable. Looks very good. My Oppo 971 will get here tomorrow. I am wondering if I shouldnt have went with the 960 since the Westy and the 971 have the same upconverter. I got fw 1.16. I will do the full install tomorrow when I get home from work and hook up my directivo hd to it and put it through the paces. I wanted to get a reference with standard dvd's, no adj to the sm yet.

At first the picture looked awful, I hadnt set the dvd player to component and progressive scan. I can see it is awfully bright and the reds are pretty dominant so I am sure with PeterS's adjustments it will be awesome.

If I were you, I would get Samsung - it upconverts to 1080p, while Oppo only to 1080i. And yes, although I've seen many posts claiming that there's no big difference between 1080p and 1080i, I DO SEE MYSELF THAT the improvement 1080p brings to the moving images is VERY SIGNIFICANT. Do a simple test - watch one movie in 1080i, then go back and watch it in 1080p, I guarantee - you will not want to use 1080i after that.

man that is messed up that they make you pay for it. The Pure Video should come with the card........

I agree with you, they definitely know how to make money.

I have been interested in getting this TV for a while but experience like that have me really concerned. What is 1080p good for if it can not do it thru HDMI. In the near future most of our HD material from DVD players will only be available thru HDMI. Can somebody confirm that if I plan to use HDMI for 1080p this Westy is NOT for me? Any other options than this model in the same price range? Thanks much.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a HDMI to DVI cable solve any problem with 1080p via HDMI. HDMI is compatible with DVI. So couldn't you use the HDMI output on the DVD player and the DVI input on the Westy with the proper cable? I currently use a HDMI adpater to use the DVI output on my HD receiver going to the HDMI input on the Westy. This works better, since garbage (exta lines of pixels) is visible on both sides with my HD receiver using the DVI input.

Yes, that's how I'm forced to use my Samsung HD960 player with Westi - instead of using HDMI input on my TV (since it's not working correctly) I have to use HDMI-2-DVI adapter and plug it in the DVI input of the TV.

What I'm not happy with is the problem with HDMI port on the TV - I think that if I'm buying a brand new TV then everything there should be working properly.

If an upconverting DVD player can do 1080i, and all of the progressive frames of the original movie are there on the DVD, wouldn't the 2:3 pulldown of the Westy still produce a 1080p image that has all of the original progressive information from the DVD? I am not sure about this, but I thought that this was the case...

OK, just got my West 42" delivered from BB today. I can't notice any banding and have yet to have a lock up (FW 1.16) Hooked up my DVD via HDMI no problem. HD PQ is AWESOME! SD PQ is ok.

My PC looks great via DVI. My DVD via HDMI has no issues (DVD is part of a HTIB).
Plan to order Dish so for now TV is via my laptop and the FusionHDTV USB Gold, and it looks outstanding.

only issue is that my PC via VGA has washed out color. I think this happened after changing the RGB settings using the SM codes (SM code also worked for me no problem). Does anyone know why the colors are so off with VGA (again don't remember it looking like that at first set up).

So far VERY HAPPY CAMPER!!!!!.....

now I'm going to enjoy the Tonight Show IN HD....
UPDATE; Just finished AreonFlux, and some of Star Wars Eps. III and both where awesome!

UPDATE2: Had a lock up this am. I just fliped the power switch on my surge protector off and on and it worked fine.

Is there a problem with HDMI port on this TV, coz I recently used Samsung T451 HDTV tuner and it didnt worked with HDMI but worked fine with DVI.
I called westinghouse CS and they suggested that I should exchange the product from BB and BB tells me that item is discountinued as its not in their system. Since I am just 1 day away from 30 day return, they said i will get my money back but I am really pissed at this solution, I have spend nights reading 100's of post on this thread and several trip to BB to buy it now just returning it for refund is not acceptable.

Any suggestion guys ?

Maybe the problem is isolated with Sammy DVD player? One thing you can check is if you have a pc and a HDMI/DVI converting cable, see if HDMI port can accept 1080p from your pc. Sammy seems to not like Westinghouse since even the sammy Blu-Ray player refuse to output 1080p to westy 42" via HDMI.

With all the talk about the HDMI outputting to 1080i instead of the claimed 1080P I want to get some extra cables to try different connections/settings. I want to get a DVI to DVI cable but there are two types: DVI-D and DVI-I. If I want to go from my PC to the Westy which cable should I get? What's the difference? Thanks.

http://www.mycableshop.com/3rd_Level/Video-Flat.htm

Looks like it depends on your video card. I use some relatively cheap RCA (from Walmart), HDMI to DVI-I cables from My Helios DVD and D* H20 to the DVI inputs on the Westy. They seem to work fine.

this is the cable I bought to go from my PC to my Westy:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

Works great.

I believe DVI-I carries analog signals along with digital --- not something you need for this application.

You mention that you have Helios DVD Player. Is it the HVD2085 one, which can upconvert to 1080p?

If yes, can you do a test - connect your Helios DVD player to Westi through HDMI-HDMI, and see what happens in 1080p mode? I get a lot of sparkling pixels all over the screen in 1080p mode.

THANKS!

Same cable here (tho on my 37w3)

Mike

Fedex2go, I'm glad you keep bringing up the question of the HDMI issue. I can understand those guys who are dismissing it too - for some people, it's a non-issue. For them, if the DVI ports work, fine, use them. However, for me, it's just plain annoying. If you're advertising something as being able to accept 1080p over HDMI, then it should ACCEPT 1080P OVER HDMI! Plain & simple. If that's not the case, change the advertising and say that the panel accepts 1080 over everything but the HDMI port.

Of course, with some people saying that they can get 1080P over HDMI with no problems, I'm hoping this problem specific to only a few panels. It's probably not a problem with the Samsung DVD player as 1) it seems to have tested fine with the Sceptre 1080p panel and 2) we've already got a couple of people saying that connections from their HTPC show the same problem.

If anyone else can shed some light on the subject for me, please help out.

A Little Light!!!

Guys, these are the first true 1080p products on the market and as such their are teething problems. Since until very recently there have been no Consumer Electronics 1080p sources, you can expect some issues to arise as companies work out some of these issues.

Rest assured that Westinghouse has the Samsung BD-P1000 in house and is testing it now. They are also committed to making it all work well together. All I can say is that the Samsung devices do not do some things the way one would have expected (I certainly wouldn't have) and not to say future CE devices won't do the same. However, again, it is being worked on.

We're on it!

PS - For the time being just use 1080i until the problem is addressed. The deinterlacer in the set is "top-notch" and should provide the same picture as if you sent it 1080p anyway. Changing cables, etc. will have no effect and "may" just cost you time and money.

So are you saying that the problem can be fixed with a firmware update?