Westinghouse 42" LCD w/1080p Part II, MSRP ONLY - Page 27

3 out of 2 million isn't that bad. Actually it's really good. if they're not clustered together, you'll never see it at the viewing distance. Instead of paying attention to 3 dead/stuck pixels.....try to pay attention to the rest of 1,999,997 pixles that work beautifully.

Just my $0.02.

Well said. I have one stuck green pixel in lower left corner and one dead pixel in top right corner. It is almost impossible to observe these in normal day to day tv watching.

XBOX 360 Playback

I am getting a 4:3 picture even though the XBOX is set to widescreen 1080i. I assume this is because the DVD outputs 480p, but the image is actually squished as if the XBOX is sending out the correct signal. Is the only solution the fill option? The image looks like the proportions are correct (nobody is fat), but the screen gets cropped a bit.

Bryan

PAP- I agree with you from one standpoint. However, I believe the band test will ultimately determine if the viewer will receive full enjoyment viewing affected videos such as March of the Penguins. It's a valid, clinical test, not an emotional one.

The remote also works on my 6412 phase II.

I'm ok with a few stuck pixels but I'd still like to fix hem if possible and want to make sure that this is not a sign of things to come. I have no visible banding so it's probably a good trade off.

But if I can fix a few stuck pixels I'm going to at least try.

My 360 goes to 1080i with no problems and no tweaks to get it there. Let me ask the obvious you are using the component cables? (ducks head)

mb1010

If you have this TV and the 360 you should really get the VGA cable for the 360. With the latest dashboard update it allows you to upscale DVD's up to 1380X768 when you use the VGA adapter.

Thanks, i'll try that when i get home as well.

I can't wait to get home tomorrow to play with my tv.


Swanlee, thanks for the instructions on changing the comcast cable box.

i'll post the results.

As far as those of you who have had "locking up" problems, what exactly is it doing? Is it where after you've shut it off for the evening and the next morning it won't turn on unless you unplug the power and plug it back in? I've been having that issue with both my original set, and the one i got when I exchanged it. Any luck with Westinghouse on this issue?

Got the unit on Friday (06/30). I had an original delivery date of 06/26. The box was huge. Good thing I did not drive to a BB and load it on my Chevy Trailblazer.

I just finished with the SM RGB changes. (Thanks to PeterS, BTW). A couple of questions/observations:

1) While in the SM, I could not get out unless I changed a value and then hit Factory Reset. Otherwise, my Westinghouse logo would continually flash indicating that SM mode was available. Hitting the Return key would always take me to the SM even if I had turned off the unit. Has anybody else experienced this? What is the proper way to get out of SM without changing any values?

2) The first time I went to the SM I almost had a heart attack since all I got was a white screen. I was in DVI1 where my PC was connected, but my PC was not turned on. I did not realize that an ACTIVE source must be on when tinkering with the SM.

3)While in the SM, I pushed the numbers "2" and "4" thinking that was how the RGB levels are changed. I got the message "UART is ON" or something to that effect. Did I screw up my Westy by hitting the "2" and "4"?

4)My RGB levels now match PeterS' recommendations. I tried Finding Nemo and it seems the blues are better.

5)I have an Oppo 970 connected to the HDMI input and get 1080i. How do I get 1080p? What source should I connect to the Westy to see 1080p?

I have my HTPC connected via DVI with rez at 1920x1020, does this mean I am at 1080p? The reason I ask is because I tried to play a DVD on my PC, and the picture wasn't as good compared to the Oppo.

Thanks to everyone for all the info being shared on this forum!

1) You may need to change a value and change it back. FACTORY RESET will then take you out of SM.

2) Yes, there is no way for the set to detect a NON-ACTIVE connection.

3) Do not worry.

4) Skin tones will also be greatly improved.

5) The Oppo 970 does not do 1080p if memory serves. However, you want to use DVI for 1080p at the moment, and yes your HTPC is putting out 1080p if it is set the way you describe.

Switch your 360 A/V cable to 'HDTV.' You probably still have it set to standard def.

I am using the Cables that came with the premium set. (RGB video cables). The Switch is set to HDTV, the XBOX is set to widescreen 1080i. Everything else on the xbox looks correct. When I watch DVD's, with the TV set to normal, its squeezed down to 4:3, but the screen is squished so that if it was stretched to 16:9, it would look correct. The TV's Fill feature comes close, but it looks like it crops the image a bit.

Bryan

a huge thanks to peters for the ongoing service menu work
i am able to change the settings,but when i re-enter the service mode
they are all at 255,then pressing the center ok button when on color 1
shows the previously set values, 232,220,255...is this correct? or are they not really sticking?
firmware is 1.11
also i cannot get the samsung blu ray player to connect to 42" westy via hdmi
at 1080P...will getting the firmware upgrade enable this?
i get a hot sparklies pic using a neodigits upconverting to 1080P...very ugly

lookin forward to info on the firmware 1.19 in the WILD...can a user interface
be made for the vga port to upgrade...or is this only able to be done by the geek squad from BB.

also have the 37"westy that the same procedure works on firmware 1.05
and again when re-entering the service mode,colcor settings for all are 255
on color 1,2,3.and pressing center enter button reveals the previous 232,220,255
on it also...guess i'll try the spyderTV to see if they are different?

Are you sure your doing a "factory" reset in the OSD menu? I tried the normal "Reset" on the 1st menu (1st menu on the left) and finally realized that the "Factory" reset is in the far right menu at the bottom. Can anyone still confirm that the "lockup" problem is the inability to turn the TV on after it has been off for a while?

yes, doing a factory reset from the far right menu

Yes that is the lock up issue. The issue has been corrected w/ firmware 1.19. Sit tight, we are all waiting for word on how the update will be implemented.

What about setting the set's aspect ratio to 'automatic' or something? I'm not familiar with the set, so I'm not sure what it would be called, but I'm sure there's other aspect ratio adjustments in the user menu.

Well that did not work. The only firmware I found..a version 4, which I flashed the Helios with, turned out to be older model player. The player works, but the remote is useless. Fortunately I had a file to program my universal remote for the old player...which works. In any case I still have the sparklies when trying to feed the Westy 1080P over HDMI. Actually this firmware makes the problem slightly worse.

Well, here's a breakdown of 1080p HDMI on Westi42:

1. Samsung HD960 - Sparkles
2. Samsung BluRay - Sparkles
3. Helios 2085 - Sparkles
4. PC DVI-2-HDMI - Sparkles at @59Hz, able to get rid of them turning down the frequency to 55Hz.

Also, it's confirmed that Sceptre 37" (production date - March) is able do display all the above correctly, and that's with cheapo-cheapo HDMI cable.

Also confirmed - expensive HDMI cable (0.5" inch thick) doesn't help Westi42 to get rid or the sparkles.

I e-mailed (twice) Westinghouse tech support on Jun.23rd with the picture I made (with blue sparkles) - it's almost 10 days now - no answer.

Sparklies are due to HDMI issues. Seems HDMI connections between different companies can tend to have issues, if you have a pc hooked up to the Westy decrease your refesh rate to around 59.94 or 55 instead of 60 hz. Otherwise dual link DVI will give better compatible results and the westy can take 1080P over DVI, get an HDMI to DVI converter if you have to.

Ever since HDMI's inception I've heard and read about all kinds of various connection issues. I have yet to see the value of HDMI and we probably won't until HDMI v1.3 is wide spread.

The TV only has "Standard" or "Fill" there is no "Stretch" setting. Anyone else have this issue with the westinghouse displaying XBOX 360 DVD playback at 4:3 instead of 16:9 when the XBOX is set to HDTV using RGB Connection, Widescreen TV, 1080i?

Thanks

Bryan

I only use the VGA connecton with my 360 and the westinghouse and do not have this issue

Ok. I will look into it... factors stopping me: (Cost/not looking forward to running a VGA connector through my cable management system/This cable SHOULD work as is)

Bryan

My point is simple - I want to have 1080p HDMI 1.2 port on my Westi42, that's what I paid for. As for now, all HDMI 1080p-capable devices on the market fail on Westi's HDMI port. This brings me up to the logical question - why Westinghouse advertize the HDMI input as 1080p capable, when in fact looks like it's not?

ALSO, WHY other "cheap" brand like Sceptre IS ACTUALLY ABLE to display 1080p via HDMI correctly??? I hate to see so-called "HDMI various connection issues" to show up only on my Westi 42, while my neighboor with similarly priced "junk-brand" Sceptre has yet to experience those "HDMI connection issues"....

I'm not saying that Westi 42 is bad, all I'm saying that before putting "1080p HDMI" into the TV's spec sheet, Westinghouse engineers should have done better 1080p-testing job (if any testing was done at all....).

I am reading that XBOX 360 does not send out a "16:9 flag" when outputting 480p. Even though I am using 1080i as the output, the resolution of the DVD output is 480p. This looks like the cause of the problem as if I set the XBOX to 480p & widescreen, the image stays 4:3, but squished for everything... games/dashboard/dvd. The short term solution is the VGA cable, but this really should work as is. Any thoughts/confirmations on this conjecture?

The other possibility is that the westinghouse doesn't use / ignores the 16:9 flag when viewing 480p output. Anyone able to confirm either way?

I don't think that the Westy does read the 16:9 flag when in 480p. When I had my Oppo 971 newly-connected, I'm pretty sure it defaulted to 480p and it pillarboxed the image so that it displayed like a 4:3 image even though the display in setup was set for widescreen. Changing the output fixed this issue. Hope that helps.

Well thats unfortunate as it seems the xbox switches to 480p when playing DVDs and I don't think that there is anything that will allow me to change this. I am on phone support with xbox right now. They should be ashamed of the quality of the call I am on. This person has no idea what is going on and goes silent for about 4 minutes at a time. I guess thats a whole other topic all together :-)

Bryan