Westinghouse 42" LCD w/1080p Part II, MSRP ONLY - Page 29

The only setting listed for the RGB port is 480i.

https://www.westinghousedigital.com/...p-monitor.aspx

Is it a handshake issue?

What kind of photos do you want? Dashboard, DVD, Games? I was just looking to get 480p widescreen if possible. I know that there is a 16:9 flag for that format to use and either the TV is ignoring it or the XBOX doesnt output it.

I am using the YPbPr Component Video 1 input - capable of 480i/p, 720p, 1080i. I can see the XBOX output 480p, but again its the widescreen flag thats not getting used properly. I am almost certain that stretch mode in 480p simply pulls it to widescreen instead of zooming in, so it may just be a manual procedure with the same outcome. I am still looking into this.

Does anyone if this type of issue is covered by the BestBuy "In-home" Warranty service?

-Argus

I wouldn't do it that way. Once they replace the TV, I think they consider the service plan void and you lose out on the plan. Read the fine print before making a decision.

Bryan

Just as I'd suspected, the 480p signal through the DVI input from my Oppo on Standard Mode is windowboxed (I was mistaken when I said that it was pillarboxed earlier). Using Fill Mode makes it fill the screen, but 720p and 1080i both fill the screen on Standard Mode. The flagging theory may be correct.

OK, I am going to contact westinghouse tomorrow. I have a feeling that they are just going to tell me to hit the stretch button.

Bryan

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/press/2006...e-features.htm

this is the spring update if it aksed you to update when you turned the unit on then it did update correctly.

here is the part about upscaling

"DVD player outputs at native resolution over VGA connection"

Bryan,

I have my 360 connected the same way. I've seen no problems displaying dvds in widescreen with my 360. So far I've watched at least 7 or 8 different movies and none have displayed this symptom...


I hooked my pc up with a DVI (pc side) to HDMI (tv side) cable. No sparkles playing any wmvhd clips or dvds. When I checked the menu for the tv it showed it was receiving 1080P content. I don't however have anyway to test straight HDMI to HDMI.

Hello,

can you tell me the resolution you use on your PC's videocard and vertical frequency?

THANKS!

Could someone who's gotten their Harmony 880 setup for the 42w2 please PM me, i've got some questions about how to get Logitech to make it work.

Thanks

GeForce 6600GT PCIe running 1920x1080 @ 59.94.

It started at 60 Hz but seemed a little fuzzy so I dropped it to 59.94. That didn't seem to make a difference so I think the problem was my eyes and the distance from the screen.

okay, did a search, didn't find (so if it's in this thread, many apologies).

I have an overscan issue (or underscan?) in that I have a bunch of components running through a JVC receiver that upconverts to HDMI. DVD via component looks fine, but my S-video to HDMI Directv box to Westy produces the top 3 lines with the picture info (white pixelated lines, sync detail I assume). Any ideas how to rid this?

I have another unit as well, and with my HD TiVo box connected via HDMI, HD looks fine, but SD, I have the same exact issue (but not in HD). Ugh...

Now that I've had my set for about three weeks, I thought I'd post my mini-review in case it is helpful. Fortunately, this forum was very helpful in knowing what to expect, so the "bad" things about the monitor were pretty much already known. This is my second HD set--I was having no luck getting my previous 6-year old Toshiba 40" CRT RPTV repaired (long story), so I'll make some comparisons to that set along the way.

I have firmware 1.16.

Observations:
- No lockups.
- No problems with the remote or slow response.
- True HD is stunning and the higher resolution of this set compared to the old CRT RPTV is immediately apparent.
- DVDs are probably a wash--the black levels were still a bit better on the old CRT set, but the perfection of convergence, geometry and the lack of a RPTV "hot spot" gives the Westinghouse some points also.
- I can see motion blur on most LCD sets after looking at them in the store for awhile. I did that for a long time with this set before deciding to buy. Now that it is at home, I think I can only very rarely see it, and it may not even be the panel that is at fault. So, that is impressive.
- My audio receiver does not have adjustable delay, but the video processing is apparenly fast enough on the Westinghouse to not cause any lip sync issues, which is a big relief.
- There is some backlight banding, pretty much as described elsewhere in this forum. So, instead of seeing geometry distortions when there is camera panning in the old CRT set, these bands are sometimes visible. But, overall the illumination is much more even than the CRT RPTV set which was noticeably brighter in the center vs. the edges. Even movie theaters have that to some extent. So, I consider it a minor defect.

- The biggest shortcomings of the set to me are:
(1) the lack of more aspect ratio controls. Primarily, the missing mode is a "zoom" mode for watching older non-anamorphic widescreen DVDs and letterboxed SD. (2) for the best black levels, you have to be very close to on-axis. There is a watchable picture over a very wide area, but the very best viewing is within 20 degrees or so of each side of dead center. Vertically, it is probably an improvement over the CRT RPTV, horizontally it is no better and maybe worse.

I don't want to end on those negatives, because overall I can't think of any other set in the 42-inch size that I would rather have. I find myself mesmerized by the picture, which says something since I have been watching HD for many years.

Mark

So, you can use the TV set to standard, not fill, and you get a movie that spans the entire width of the display? (with possible letterboxing depending on the movie's widescreen proportion). Also, what firmware do you have?

Bryan

After just speaking with the Westinghouse CSR and explaining the two subtly visible vertical bands on my set, and determining my set as being officially "defective", and stating that I was in the greater Los Angeles, CA area, the CSR explained that I could wait until after Thursday of this week (Westy office(s) are on holiday and performing some computer system upgrade) to call back. When I call back after Thursday, he stated that it was highly possible for me to do the following, because other support cases have been resolved in a similar manner:

- Take my set into their distribution center in the greater LA area

- Bring an HD source in, such as a notebook computer + a DVI cable

- Exchange my set for a brand new set right in the distribution center

- Test the brand new set right in the center, with my HD source plugged in.

- Keep testing until I find a good set.

I'm not sure how much weight I'd put into what I've been told, but with the distro center only 30 miles away from me, I'm willing to give it a shot this / next week to validate what I've been told.

where is it located?

thanks for the mini review mark

good to know that this sets quality is confirmed by a long time viewer or hd material.
the only comparisons left to be made are with the upcoming 1080p sets from the bigger name companies and how much better the picture can be given the price differences.

i'm looking forward to a direct comparison to the sony sets since i know sony will definitely provide a quality picture. the samsungs so far have left something to be desired and they are quite a bit more expensive

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mbuchana,

Echo most of that review. HD on this set is incredible. I'm surprised though that you didn't mind the remote, which requires some couch acrobatics for me to get it in the right reception cone for the IR receiver. My wife finds this to be the most annoying aspect of the unit.

I still get some audio out-of-sync, even coming from the built-in speakers. I'm going to try to understand this some more when I'm back from vacation--like how much video processing is being done based on the source when this happens (how much upscaling, is setting the sharpness to anything other than "0" slowing it down? etc...).

The Westy distro center is supposedly located in Santa Fe Springs, CA.

wow that is not far from me. I say 15 miles or so.

I just got done watching madagascar on HBOHD on this set and it was freakin amazing, not the best CGI movie but it looked so good I could not turn the channel. HD is just so amazing, I had a 27 inch Samsung CRT HDTV for 3 years and it did good HD but nothing close to the westinghouse.

Once calibrated properly and using the SM codes to fix the color this TV's colors rivals any CRT I've ever seen and the resolultion blows anything away.

just re-checked my settings via dvi to hdmi(westy side) from my pc. radeon 9800pro
dvi out.

saw sparklies at default refresh rate around 60hz

played around in powerstrip lowering refresh until sparklies were eliminated

they are gone according to my eyes at a

vertical rate of 48.099

horizontal rate of 53.438


when the westy is turned off and on it seemed to revert back to it's standard refresh rate but as i clicked on the pc window it snapped back to the pc''s set rate above.




1080p through hdmi no sparklies whatsoever.best i could do for now until they make a blue ray player that's worth getting so we can test the hdmi to hdmi hookup.


just one note: i thought hdmi wasn't supposed to display a 1080p picture though hdmi without hdmi on both ends? or does that only apply to the new players with hdcp?

Okay, I turned my backlight from 0 to 50 and above, wow the colors really pop this time. So, my recommended setting would be backlight 50, brightness/contrast/saturation around 50, hue about 0, and sharpness (0 or whatever, it doesn't seem to make any difference). Of course, PeterS's SM settings are awesome and easy to do. (Note if you get a white screen, don't panic. You are just at a signal-less input, try to use your menu to switch to a known input.)

My DVI1 now works after hooking up with DVI2 without problems. It used to give me "signal out of range." It looks there is some memory effect that ties the two DVI inputs together.

Backlight settings from 0 to even 100 will not change the overall contrast too much. I personally think you'll sacrifice grey details more than gaining more of blacks..... I have mine set around 45 to 50 most of the time. I like achieve good black, but I also like to see darker details in the movies..... instead of all black.

Does anyone on here know how to remove the bottom base stand. I just bought a wall mount and want to hang it up there, but the manual has nothing about removing the base stand. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Looking at it from the back, you'll easily see 4 screws that you need to remove. Simple as that.

Is anybody else experiencing delays in the BB delivery of the westy 42? I ordered mine on that Saturday sale with delivery on 6/24, then 7/3, now 7/14....

They are available on BB site for delivery now, so it must be getting better in terms of availability. Earliest date available is now 7/10

I had a confirmed delivery date of 7/2 to Santa Monica, CA that went unfulfilled. However, I won't mind too much as long as I get firmware 1.19.

However, it does suck that they don't even call you to tell you that they can't make the confirmed delivery date!