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post #181 of 997
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Originally Posted by nature boy View Post

I compared the modded Insignia's to another stock pair I purchased. I put about 40 hours of high volume music through each pair before A-B'ing.

Um, and did this have any results? That is, what was the outcome of your A/B comparison?
post #182 of 997
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Originally Posted by SpectralD View Post

B stands for Bose. A-B'ing a speaker means to compare it to Bose speakers; this is a good way to reveal a speaker's shortcomings. Break-in isn't necessary for Bose speakers, so don't worry about it. They sound great out of the box.

This SpectralD guy is obviously some sort of bizarre bose troll and should be ignored and/or moderated.

B doesn't stand for anything Bose or anything else.
A-B'ing speakers refers to comparing two sets of speakers by wiring them to the same receiver at the same time - one on the A channel and one on the B channel - that way you can switch from one set of speakers to the other effortlessly. This is the best way to compare two speakers directly to one another.
post #183 of 997
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Originally Posted by PULLIAMM View Post

Um, and did this have any results? That is, what was the outcome of your A/B comparison?

He provided the writeup earlier on that page. Look back a few posts.


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Originally Posted by upNdown View Post

This SpectralD guy is obviously some sort of bizarre bose troll and should be ignored and/or moderated.

I thought he was just playing along with our beloved directvfreak3, but that's just me.
post #184 of 997
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Originally Posted by Pete7874 View Post

I thought he was just playing along with our beloved directvfreak3, but that's just me.


You're probably right; after posting that, I checked some of the guy's other posts, and he seems fine. But that sort of thing certainly doesn't help a new guy who's asking legitimate questions.
post #185 of 997
I had planned on buying two pairs of JBL E30's but now that I saw this thread I am wondering if I should just head down to best buy and check them out. Anyone know how they would compare with the E30's?

Edit: Has anyone also tried using a single speaker as a center channel? Or is there another speaker that would match these speakers as a center?
post #186 of 997
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Originally Posted by Brantano View Post

Edit: Has anyone also tried using a single speaker as a center channel? Or is there another speaker that would match these speakers as a center?

If you're talking about the Insignias, then someone in this thread posted a link earlier to what looks like an identical radiiant design that comes with a matching center speaker. However, it'll probably be cheaper and just as good to buy another set of Insignias and use one as a center speaker, especially that they're concentric. You just have to make sure to secure it properly if you're going to place it on its side.
post #187 of 997
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Originally Posted by Pete7874 View Post

If you're talking about the Insignias, then someone in this thread posted a link earlier to what looks like an identical radiiant design that comes with a matching center speaker. However, it'll probably be cheaper and just as good to buy another set of Insignias and use one as a center speaker, especially that they're concentric. You just have to make sure to secure it properly if you're going to place it on its side.

I have a perfect spot for it where it would sit upright. I think I may just pick up two pairs tonight and see if I like them, then buy another pair if I really like them and set up a 6.1 system (center and surround back).


I still would like to hear someone who has heard both the E30's and the Insignia's too though. Still going to get the Insignia's, but I can always take them back.
post #188 of 997
I just noticed that the Insignias rattle quite a bit when played loud (and not really loud - volume cranked half way on my 2x20W Onkyo receiver). Maybe the front panels aren't sticking properly after I had removed them to replace the egg crates with poly-fil.
post #189 of 997
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Originally Posted by Pete7874 View Post

Heh... it may be a legitimate question, but directvfreak3 surely can't be taken seriously after what he posted in this and numerous other threads.

What? I just asked a simple question. I don't need a smart answer. Can someone please help me? Thanks!
post #190 of 997
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post #191 of 997
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Originally Posted by directvfreak3 View Post

What? I just asked a simple question. I don't need a smart answer. Can someone please help me? Thanks!

Are you serious? Given that you haven't made a single helpful or informative post besides pushing Bose as the greatest thing ever, and claiming that no speakers even costing 10K will beat them DESPITE the fact that you've also never HEARD speakers in that pricerange, and DESPITE the fact that you've admitted to never comparing Bose speakers to anything else, you shouldn't be surprised that nobody takes you seriously since you continue to thread fart a bunch of ignorant nonsense as if you have any experience to make any statement about audio quality at all. The extent of your experience, from what I've read of your posts and your multiple troll accounts, is that other people have told you that they think Bose sounds good, therefore it's better than anything else out there.

Here's some advice: go out there and actually listen to some high-end systems, and see what you think. And second, stop trolling pro-Bose all over the place. Until then, don't expect much in terms of assistance, since you clearly are not open to any difference of opinion, since anyone who thinks otherwise is 'retarded' etc.
post #192 of 997
Thanks to this post I whent out and bought myself four of these speakers and damn can I say they sound pretty nice. Since its pretty later I havnt had time to fully test htem out, but I am pleased so far.
post #193 of 997
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Originally Posted by upNdown View Post

You're probably right; after posting that, I checked some of the guy's other posts, and he seems fine. But that sort of thing certainly doesn't help a new guy who's asking legitimate questions.

Yeah, I was just goofing on the guy. If any newbies get confused, let me say that B does not stand for Bose.
post #194 of 997
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Originally Posted by PULLIAMM View Post

$75 stands for $50 speakers?!

Haha, yeah, I know. I saved so much money on the speaker upgrade, though, I decided it would be ok to waste the $25-30 I could've saved getting them or something comparable online. But then I would've had to wait for shipping and I'm notoriously impatient when it comes to my home theater.
post #195 of 997
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Originally Posted by Brantano View Post

I had planned on buying two pairs of JBL E30's but now that I saw this thread I am wondering if I should just head down to best buy and check them out. Anyone know how they would compare with the E30's?

Edit: Has anyone also tried using a single speaker as a center channel? Or is there another speaker that would match these speakers as a center?

Yes, you should definitely check them out. They're more neutral than most of the JBL speakers I've heard (I have not heard the E30s however), which tend to have accentuated low and high ends.

And also yes, I am using a single Insignia bookshelf as a center channel speaker right now. I switched back and forth between center/no center last night and while there was little difference, if there was one, it was that the center channel spread the front soundstage out a bit. I've also heard a couple people mention that they bought a center speaker from Radiient, the company that apparently manufactures these speakers for Best Buy.

Hope that helps.
post #196 of 997
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Originally Posted by He11FiRe View Post

I've also heard a couple people mention that they bought a center speaker from Radiient, the company that apparently manufactures these speakers for Best Buy.

Great idea! I wonder how much Radiient charges for the single center speaker, since their website only lists the prices for combos.
post #197 of 997
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Originally Posted by He11FiRe View Post

Yes, you should definitely check them out. They're more neutral than most of the JBL speakers I've heard (I have not heard the E30s however), which tend to have accentuated low and high ends.

Um, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the Insignias have an accentuated low and high end. The highs, especially.
post #198 of 997
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Originally Posted by PULLIAMM View Post

Um, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the Insignias have an accentuated low and high end. The highs, especially.


Yea, I can definetly see where they have an accentuated high end, but on the low I dont really see much, but I am also using a sub.
post #199 of 997
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Originally Posted by PULLIAMM View Post

Um, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the Insignias have an accentuated low and high end. The highs, especially.

Agreed on the high end. After a while of music listening, ear fatigue crouches in. For HT applications, it may be OK though.
post #200 of 997
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Originally Posted by PULLIAMM View Post

Um, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the Insignias have an accentuated low and high end. The highs, especially.

Um, yeah, they're a little bright, but not as bad as most of the JBLs I've heard. I don't notice any accentuation of the lows, however, so we do disagree there.

Or is today just your day to mess with me? So far you've hit on how much I spent on my stands and my opinion on JBL E30s vs. the Insignias. Anything else you want to add while I'm still paying attention?
post #201 of 997
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Originally Posted by He11FiRe View Post

Um, yeah, they're a little bright, but not as bad as most of the JBLs I've heard. I don't notice any accentuation of the lows, however, so we do disagree there.

Or is today just your day to mess with me? So far you've hit on how much I spent on my stands and my opinion on JBL E30s vs. the Insignias. Anything else you want to add while I'm still paying attention?

No, I am not picking on you. I respond to posts based on their content, not who posted them (except for the freak. ) I have no love for JBL, particularly, but I also think that the Insignias are merely very good for the price rather than defying physics and economics.
post #202 of 997
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Originally Posted by Pete7874 View Post

Agreed on the high end. After a while of music listening, ear fatigue crouches in. For HT applications, it may be OK though.


Really? I was listening to them for about an hour straight and I didnt get any sort of listening fatique, and I was playing them pretty loud.
post #203 of 997
They gave me a headache after about 3 days of use. If you get the open box set at the Edina BB, they'll be mine with fiberglass fill, an improvement over stock.
post #204 of 997
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Originally Posted by Brantano View Post

Really? I was listening to them for about an hour straight and I didnt get any sort of listening fatique, and I was playing them pretty loud.

Yeah. Not sure if the fact that I'm sitting within 1-2 feet from them has antyhing to do with it.
post #205 of 997
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Originally Posted by Clmrt View Post

They gave me a headache after about 3 days of use. If you get the open box set at the Edina BB, they'll be mine with fiberglass fill, an improvement over stock.

What are you going to replace them with? Is there anything better that one can get for around $50? I'm starting to think of returning mine, too.
post #206 of 997
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Originally Posted by Pete7874 View Post

What are you going to replace them with? Is there anything better that one can get for around $50? I'm starting to think of returning mine, too.

No, there is nothing better around $50. There are much better speakers, but you have to spend more to get them. Probably the cheapest big step up would be Polks or Athenas around $120/pr.
I really liked the Insignias for a day or two, and even imagined that they could be a worthy replacement for my (much more expensive) Infinitys. Not long after that, the honeymoon ended.
post #207 of 997
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Originally Posted by PULLIAMM View Post

No, I am not picking on you. I respond to posts based on their content, not who posted them (except for the freak. ) I have no love for JBL, particularly, but I also think that the Insignias are merely very good for the price rather than defying physics and economics.

I don't remember ever making any implications towards their ability to overcome physical limitations, but isn't being good for the price (this good, in any case), in a way, overcoming economics? Anyways...

Additionally, I do have access to some graphs on these speakers and using the convential rating method, they're 60Hz to 24kHz +/-4.5dB, and have a slightly depressed midrange (Full credit to Howard Roark @ SoundandVisionmag.com for the testing, measurements, and graphs). That's not bad at all, especially for the price. Do you have any real world measurements for the JBL E30s? I'd like to compare the two.
post #208 of 997
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Originally Posted by SpectralD View Post

Yeah, I was just goofing on the guy. If any newbies get confused, let me say that B does not stand for Bose.

Right. I'm the moron. I'll try to keep quiet from now on.

On a related note, though, Best Buy has these for 10% off now, so they're $45 for the pair. I've resigned myself to grabbing another pair, so I can use one as a center, but I'm SOOO cheap that I can't stand to pay more than the earlier sale price ($35). So I'll be waiting for another sale . . .
post #209 of 997
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Originally Posted by PULLIAMM View Post

No, there is nothing better around $50. There are much better speakers, but you have to spend more to get them. Probably the cheapest big step up would be Polks or Athenas around $120/pr.

Which Polks could I get for $120 and where from?
I'm also looking into used stuff, trying to see what about $100 could get me on ebay...
post #210 of 997
you can get the Polk M10's for around $120 at Circuit city.
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