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post #421 of 1039
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Originally Posted by TVBob View Post

It wouldn't be the first time a press release was inaccurate, particularly in this case when the nesn claim is likely based on a deal being finalized, which is not a guarantee, and which is why broadcasters generally don't announce new channels ahead of time.

So when NESN HD is live on DirecTV next Tuesday, what will your excuse be then? You will then be pointing out that you were not wrong somehow, I'm sure.
post #422 of 1039
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Originally Posted by TVBob View Post

How?


By every word you post. You said that the RSNS wouldn't happen when they did. You said NESN was months away. Then, when presented with evidence that you are wrong, you refuse to accept that you were wrong. Plus you take credit for the press release when it was Ken H. who gave out that info. And then you denied knowing about it when you referred to it in one of your posts.
Plus calling the Directv press release as "speculative". What exactly was "speculative" about it? Did it say NESN may start on July 18? No, it said it would start on July 18. That's pretty definite in my book.
post #423 of 1039
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Originally Posted by TVBob View Post

It wouldn't be the first time a press release was inaccurate, particularly in this case when the nesn claim is likely based on a deal being finalized, which is not a guarantee, and which is why broadcasters generally don't announce new channels ahead of time.


OK, since you brought it up, TVBob, please give us examples of previous DirecTV press releases which announced programming agreements would start on a specific day, and which turned out to be "inaccurate".

It would absolutely fly in the face of everything DirecTV has done regarding press releases to announce an agreement when, in your words "the nesn claim is likely based on a deal being finalized, which is not a guarantee".

And there is something else important here, too. Do you understand the liability DirecTV would have if this press release coming from investor relations were bogus?

The SEC could bring criminal charges because this NESN release.

If DirecTV is announcing a deal to investors then a deal has been finalized. Period.

Of course there are always technical snafus which could possibly push back the launch by a few days, I would guess, but the deal is done.

The sooner you admit that your source was WRONG the more credibility you might be able to salvage for the future.
post #424 of 1039
[quote=spoonman27]Press Release Source: DIRECTV, Inc.


"In August DIRECTV will deliver continuous 24/7 HD feeds from Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD (Orioles) and Comcast SportsNet Chicago HDTV (Cubs, White Sox)."

And they still won't release their stranglehold on CSN Philly. Is thre any update on this situation? I would gladly settle for a standard def version of it. Blasphmy in this forum I know but come on already.
post #425 of 1039
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Originally Posted by eaglesnflyers View Post

And they still won't release their stranglehold on CSN Philly. Is thre any update on this situation? I would gladly settle for a standard def version of it. Blasphmy in this forum I know but come on already.

I think the only chance in the near future for getting CSN Philly on DirecTV will be this Thursday as the FCC votes on the Adelphia sale to Comcast and Time Warner. Although I personally think it's unlikely, there is a chance that the FCC will have Comcast make CSN Philly available to DirecTV and Echostar as a condition of the sale. I am personally hoping so, because I think it's terrible that they are doing that to fans in Philly who do not want cable. But, even if the FCC forces Comcast to make it available, I don't believe that automatically will add it to the DirecTV lineup. They would still have to negotiate carriage of the channel, and I'm not sure if Comcast would play dirty or not.
post #426 of 1039
[quote=eaglesnflyers]
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Originally Posted by spoonman27 View Post

Press Release Source: DIRECTV, Inc.


"In August DIRECTV will deliver continuous 24/7 HD feeds from Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD (Orioles) and Comcast SportsNet Chicago HDTV (Cubs, White Sox)."

And they still won't release their stranglehold on CSN Philly. Is thre any update on this situation? I would gladly settle for a standard def version of it. Blasphmy in this forum I know but come on already.


Originally NewsCorp had an ownership interest in CSN Chicago as well as CSN MA. As part of the deal to get ownership, Comcast had to agree to make it available to DBS.

I believe that eventually NewsCorp and Comcast will come to some agreement over CSN Philly -- simply because there is lots of money being left on the table by both of them at the moment.

But such an agreement probably will not come soon.

However were a la carte to come into effect it would probably come almost immediately, because such a high number of subs would opt out of RSNs -- including CSN Philly.

Thus Comcast would need every dollar it could get from willing subs, even if they were with Dish or DirecTV.
post #427 of 1039
So what channel is CSN Chicago hd going be on, and what date?
post #428 of 1039
Does anybody know what the deal with Channel 4 San Diego is? Is it under the terrestrial loophole? (possible, but Cox also puts their games on the Las Vegas system)
post #429 of 1039
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Originally Posted by evil View Post

So what channel is CSN Chicago hd going be on, and what date?

According to the release, sometime in August.

Looks like the same channel you receive the SD feed of CSN CHI

" Customers who live within the RSN team territory and the spot beam area will also be required to have the H20 (MPEG4 compatible) HD receiver along with a five LNB dish to receive the RSN's HD programming. The HD games will be available on viewer channel 96 or 97 in each market, and the 24/7 RSNs will be seen on a separate channel that will have the same viewer channel number as their standard definition feed."

Have to wait and see really.
post #430 of 1039
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Originally Posted by GeorgeLV View Post

Does anybody know what the deal with Channel 4 San Diego is? Is it under the terrestrial loophole? (possible, but Cox also puts their games on the Las Vegas system)

The quick answer is yes, it is under the loophole.
post #431 of 1039
question anyone know how to check if you qualify for the hd rsn feed on the D* website like the press release says you can do?
post #432 of 1039
I would like to know this as well..seeing how I am in Louisiana, but will be gettting FSN Houston/Southwest, but unsure as to getting HD games...even though I could care less about the Astros...
post #433 of 1039
Basically, it appears that if you get a city's locals in HD, you most likely would get the RSN -- barring a territorial overlap.

Specifics, I am sure, will be answered in the next few weeks.

I doubt you'll be able to get Dallas or Houston where you live, adgreer. And since Lubbock is the 146th market, it may be a while until you get your locals in HD. But when you do apparently you will get whatever RSN is available to you in Lubbock.

As for you, Baldmaga, you would get, in HD, whatever city's local HD stations you are offered. If it is New Orleans that is what you would get. If it is Houston, you'll get that RSN
post #434 of 1039
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Originally Posted by fredfa View Post

Basically, it appears that if you get a city's locals in HD, you most likely would get the RSN -- barring a territorial overlap.

I wish the press release was more specific on that point. It did mention that FSN Southwest Texas Rangers game would be in the Dallas DMA only, but that was it. Since upgrading to the 5LNB dish will probably re-up my commitment to DirecTV, whether or not FSN West HD and Prime Ticket HD will on the Las Vegas beam will be a huge factor in my decision.
post #435 of 1039
If the channels are only available to those that have access to HD locals through D*, then why wouldn't they just say that in the press release? Why the vague comment about spotbeams?
post #436 of 1039
A few unnecessary comments deleted. Keep on topic, and leave the personal comments out of the discussion.
post #437 of 1039
I believe these are the conditions for receiving the HD RSNs:

1. You must get that RSN in standard definition in your Total Choice package.
2. You must live under the spotbeam which will carry the HD RSN.
3. You must have an H20 and 5 LNB dish.
4. You must receive HD locals at your location.

So if my interpretation is correct, people like myself who live in Connecticut, under the NY and Boston broadcast area, will get both the YES games only channel and NESN HD next Tuesday.
post #438 of 1039
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Originally Posted by PaulieORF View Post

I believe these are the conditions for receiving the HD RSNs:

1. You must get that RSN in standard definition in your Total Choice package.
2. You must live under the spotbeam which will carry the HD RSN.
3. You must have an H20 and 5 LNB dish.
4. You must receive HD locals at your location.

So if my interpretation is correct, people like myself who live in Connecticut, under the NY and Boston broadcast area, will get both the YES games only channel and NESN HD next Tuesday.

And so if you are correct, those of us who live outside the San Francisco DMA, but still receive FSNBA in SD, would then receive the HD telecasts via the Sacramento, Fresno, etc., spotbeam, correct? Has anybody found the right area on the D* website to confirm this?
post #439 of 1039
I didn't see anything mentioned about MSGHD in the press release, any word on that?
post #440 of 1039
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Originally Posted by adgreer View Post

question anyone know how to check if you qualify for the hd rsn feed on the D* website like the press release says you can do?

go to this link - enter your zip - and PRESTO.

http://directv.com/DTVAPP/global/con...setId=P3000004
post #441 of 1039
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Originally Posted by Kevin12586 View Post

I didn't see anything mentioned about MSGHD in the press release, any word on that?

MSG-HD is now on the schedule for mid-October 2006 launch. Really no hurry for this one - they carry no baseball, no major sports until Hockey/Basketball season starts - so it will be there right on time. BTW same for FSN-NY. These will be 'game-only' HD channels, gotta wait for the games to start.

The NY DMA is going to have 4 local RSN's in HD come October. Now who thinks DISH has better HD channels? I'll take those four and NFL ST HD OVER VOOM and HGTV and NGC any day.

This is just the beginning of DirecTV dominance in HD. They are expanding the use of the Spaceway birds for locals - to a place DISH CANNOT come close to matching now - the MPEG4 DVR is close to launch (that IS a negative for them no doubt, but soon to go away), and DIRECTV10 will put them SO FAR ahead of EVERYONE else in HD capacity.
post #442 of 1039
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Originally Posted by sdk 009 View Post

And so if you are correct, those of us who live outside the San Francisco DMA, but still receive FSNBA in SD, would then receive the HD telecasts via the Sacramento, Fresno, etc., spotbeam, correct? Has anybody found the right area on the D* website to confirm this?

If you are in fact under the same spotbeam as SF, and you receive HD locals (not necessarily SF locals), and you do get the SD RSN as part of your regular package, then under my assumption you would get FSN BA games in HD.

As far as a qualification page on DirecTV's site that specifically says what HD RSNs are available to you, I don' think there is one yet. There is just the standard RSN page that ScoBuck posted.
post #443 of 1039
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Originally Posted by PaulieORF View Post

If you are in fact under the same spotbeam as SF, and you receive HD locals (not necessarily SF locals), and you do get the SD RSN as part of your regular package, then under my assumption you would get FSN BA games in HD.

One would assume that would be the case, but I guess it depends on how versatile, or how large an area the spotbeam can cover, if it covers a larger area than what they do with the regular local HD spotbeam or not. I suppose they could just duplicate it as DirecTV doesn't seem to hurting for MPEG4 bandwidth.

I asked earlier in the Sac local thread if anyone was getting FSNBA-HD yet but I have not seen anyone respond. Trying to find localized DBS members though can be a little tricky though.

Tracy CA is covered by FSNBA and Comcast Sportsnet(West).
post #444 of 1039
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Originally Posted by ScoBuck View Post

MSG-HD is now on the schedule for mid-October 2006 launch. Really no hurry for this one - they carry no baseball, no major sports until Hockey/Basketball season starts - so it will be there right on time. BTW same for FSN-NY. These will be 'game-only' HD channels, gotta wait for the games to start.

The NY DMA is going to have 4 local RSN's in HD come October. Now who thinks DISH has better HD channels? I'll take those four and NFL ST HD OVER VOOM and HGTV and NGC any day.

This is just the beginning of DirecTV dominance in HD. They are expanding the use of the Spaceway birds for locals - to a place DISH CANNOT come close to matching now - the MPEG4 DVR is close to launch (that IS a negative for them no doubt, but soon to go away), and DIRECTV10 will put them SO FAR ahead of EVERYONE else in HD capacity.

Agreed, as long as the new MPEG4 HD DVR is coming right behind this. As much as I want to jump into these, I can't give up my HD TIVO until it is replaced.
post #445 of 1039
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

One would assume that would be the case, but I guess it depends on how versatile, or how large an area the spotbeam can cover, if it covers a larger area than what they do with the regular local HD spotbeam or not. I suppose they could just duplicate it as DirecTV doesn't seem to hurting for MPEG4 bandwidth.

I asked earlier in the Sac local thread if anyone was getting FSNBA-HD yet but I have not seen anyone respond. Trying to find localized DBS members though can be a little tricky though.

Tracy CA is covered by FSNBA and Comcast Sportsnet(West).

keenan - here is a link to a RSN-HD thread - it has posts from members saying they ARE receciving FSNBA-HD.

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=60107
post #446 of 1039
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Originally Posted by mulesqb View Post

Agreed, as long as the new MPEG4 HD DVR is coming right behind this. As much as I want to jump into these, I can't give up my HD TIVO until it is replaced.

What DMA is Putnam, NY in?
post #447 of 1039
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Originally Posted by ScoBuck View Post

What DMA is Putnam, NY in?

Depends what county you're in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_media_market
post #448 of 1039
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Originally Posted by fredfa View Post

OK, since you brought it up, TVBob, please give us examples of previous DirecTV press releases which announced programming agreements would start on a specific day, and which turned out to be "inaccurate".

It would absolutely fly in the face of everything DirecTV has done regarding press releases to announce an agreement when, in your words "the nesn claim is likely based on a deal being finalized, which is not a guarantee".

And there is something else important here, too. Do you understand the liability DirecTV would have if this press release coming from investor relations were bogus?

The SEC could bring criminal charges because this NESN release.

If DirecTV is announcing a deal to investors then a deal has been finalized. Period.

Of course there are always technical snafus which could possibly push back the launch by a few days, I would guess, but the deal is done.

The sooner you admit that your source was WRONG the more credibility you might be able to salvage for the future.

I can guarantee no deal has been finalized with nesn. While I can not rule out one done by July 18th, my source finds it very doubtful.
post #449 of 1039
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Originally Posted by TVBob View Post

I can guarantee no deal has been finalized with nesn. While I can not rule out one done by July 18th, my source finds it very doubtful.


Right.

You are "guaranteeing" that DirecTV, which said yesterday full 24/7 broadcasting of NESN HD begins July 18th, is lying.

Which would upset many Boston area viewers, be totally unlike any other news release DirecTV has made, oh and by the way, subject DirecTV to federal prosecution.

You might might to look, for the next week, at finding a new source. Or at least stop subjecting people on this forum to his or her (and your) "information".
post #450 of 1039
Thread Starter 
Another nesn sighting:

http://www.skyreport.com/#Story2
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