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post #721 of 1039
7/18/06 at 11:18am
Here in Florida it looks like the the FSN Florida telecasts of the Marlins games are being spot beamed into different markets. Miami/Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach, Orlando and Tampa. All have different locals and all appear to be getting the MPG4 telecast, on channel 96, of the Marlin games. Not sure about the Jacksonville, Tallahassee and Pensacola markets though. Haven't seen anything from those three, if they are getting the games or not.

I guess for NESN to be all over its coverage area, it would need to be spot beamed from beams that cover the following markets Boston, Hartford, Providence, Manchester, Burlington, Portland, Bangor and what ever market covers northern Maine.

Just hope that next year, when all their satellites are flying, they put all the HD RSNs on National beams, for those of us that subscribe to the RSN package, or any of the other sports packages (MLB, NHL, etc.).
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post #722 of 1039
7/18/06 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by loudo38 View Post

Here in Florida it looks like the the FSN Florida telecasts of the Marlins games are being spot beamed into different markets. Miami/Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach, Orlando and Tampa. All have different locals and all appear to be getting the MPG4 telecast, on channel 96, of the Marlin games. Not sure about the Jacksonville, Tallahassee and Pensacola markets though. Haven't seen anything from those three, if they are getting the games or not.

I guess to NESN to be all over its coverage area, it would need to be spot beamed from beams that cover the following markets Boston, Hartford, Providence, Manchester, Burlington, Portland, Bangor and what ever market covers northern Maine.

Just hope that next year, when all their satellites are flying, they put all the RSNs on National beams, for those of us that subscribe to the RSN package, or any of the other sports packages (MLB, NHL, etc.).

Follow this up Paulie - if its true that they are throwing up the RSN onto different locals spotbeams - they SHOULD be able to to exactly that for Hartford - it's really no different than this.
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post #723 of 1039
7/18/06 at 11:25am
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Follow this up Paulie - if its true that they are throwing up the RSN onto different locals spotbeams - they SHOULD be able to to exactly that for Hartford - it's really no different than this.

I'd love to, but I cannot speak to anyone intelligent at DirecTV (if in fact intelligent people exist there, based on the face that I don't get NESN HD). I'm very frustrated with this, and would just love for my cable company to call me up and say they have NESN HD, I'd drop DirecTV in a heartbeat.
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post #724 of 1039
7/18/06 at 11:30am
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Here's one more good DirecTV number to try. It is a direct line to their HD support center. They might be able to at least give you info.

800 263-0028
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post #725 of 1039
7/18/06 at 12:22pm
I moved to Boston and you can get both the HD locals and NESN with the spotbeams east of the Connecticut River. I cant vouch for anything on the other side. I am about 90-100 miles the way the crow flies from Fenway. I had to reset the H20 a few times for it to finally figure out it "moved".

The replay of the game last night is beautiful. I didnt want to do it this way but D* and their stupid whatever forced me to. Cant be technical spotbeam cuz I proved it wrong.
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post #726 of 1039
7/18/06 at 12:27pm
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I moved to Boston and you can get both the HD locals and NESN with the spotbeams east of the Connecticut River. I cant vouch for anything on the other side. I am about 90-100 miles the way the crow flies from Fenway. I had to reset the H20 a few times for it to finally figure out it "moved".

The replay of the game last night is beautiful. I didnt want to do it this way but D* and their stupid whatever forced me to. Cant be technical spotbeam cuz I proved it wrong.

Now all we need is someone from Western CT to try this, then I can let NESN know that DirecTV was feedin them BS.
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post #727 of 1039
7/18/06 at 12:32pm
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Now all we need is someone from Western CT to try this, then I can let NESN know that DirecTV was feedin them BS.

Paulie - I am not sure that DirecTV can offer Hartford NESN off of the Boston spotbeam. I don't mean that your location is NOT within the range of the spotbeam, but rather since it is a Boston lils spotbeam (along with the Boston local networks stuff) they may NOT be able to just authorize NESN without ALL of the additional Boston stuff. They might have to 'bundle' the channels within the spotbeam. I can't imagine that each individual channel is programmed separately for each zip or DMA.

On the other hand, what I don't understand is why they cannot or will not send NESN up on the Hartford spotbeam so that peeps in Hartford (who also get NESN SD) can get it.
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post #728 of 1039
7/18/06 at 12:37pm
I called the number Scobuck suggested and asked about NESN HD for CT. We are out of luck. There will be no NESN for CT. she said this happened in Ohio and a couple other places. Just cancelled my upgrade.
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post #729 of 1039
7/18/06 at 12:39pm
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On the other hand, what I don't understand is why they cannot or will not send NESN up on the Hartford spotbeam so that peeps in Hartford (who also get NESN SD) can get it.

Because it's brand new. Eventually they will almost have to put it up so other markets can get as NESN will probably demand it. I'm assuming that Hartford has MPEG4 local HD already of course.
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post #730 of 1039
7/18/06 at 3:49pm
down here in Louisiana, we have ch. 97 on our guide, but it seems we aren't in the spotbeam of FSN Southwest, since we don't have any games scheduled in the near future.
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post #731 of 1039
7/18/06 at 4:28pm
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On the other hand, what I don't understand is why they cannot or will not send NESN up on the Hartford spotbeam so that peeps in Hartford (who also get NESN SD) can get it.

*If* I had to guess, it might be that the Hartford HD-locals (there are only 2 right now, correct?) might piggy back on the NY HD spotbeam and with all the NY HD-RSN's coming online they've got no more room on that spotbeam if they need to leave room for the 2 other Hartford HD locals if an agreement is ever reached. Just a guess of about the only technical explanation I can come up with.
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post #732 of 1039
7/18/06 at 4:34pm
Something like this map, but for the new sat spotbeams would be really helpful here in our conspiracy theory:

http://www.dbsforums.com/vbulletin/a...2&d=1093577347
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post #733 of 1039
7/18/06 at 4:37pm
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*If* I had to guess, it might be that the Hartford HD-locals (there are only 2 right now, correct?) might piggy back on the NY HD spotbeam and with all the NY HD-RSN's coming online they've got no more room on that spotbeam if they need to leave room for the 2 other Hartford HD locals if an agreement is ever reached. Just a guess of about the only technical explanation I can come up with.

can't be IMO - there are a total of 64 transponders on the 2 SW birds - DirecTv says these birds can handle 1500 HD local channels - my math says a beam can handle more - but only an educated guess.
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post #734 of 1039
7/18/06 at 4:39pm
They just made the announcement about NESN HD on DirecTV during the game. How depressing.
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post #735 of 1039
7/18/06 at 4:39pm
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NY DMA report:

Channel 95 Yankees in MPEG2
Channel 96 Yankees in MPEG4

I have a big plasma - but both look identical to me. I know 96 is MPEG4 because I reset my H20 for 3lnb and 96 did NOT show.

Channel 97 (Online guide said Mets VS. Reds) NADA. Guide on tv says 'to be announced'
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post #736 of 1039
7/18/06 at 5:14pm
So how does the MPEG4 version of YES compare with the MPEG2 version in terms of picture quality, motion artifacts and audio synch?
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post #737 of 1039
7/18/06 at 5:24pm
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So how does the MPEG4 version of YES compare with the MPEG2 version in terms of picture quality, motion artifacts and audio synch?

I have been watching both (2 HD sets). There have in fact been some motion artifacts - and one audio drop (couple of seconds) - but PQ identical, and can't really tell about audio synch during the game.
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post #738 of 1039
7/18/06 at 5:27pm
I just "moved" to Boston.

I now have NESN HD! Woo hoo! I'll "move" back to Connecticut once DirecTV gets their act together and puts it on in CT.
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post #739 of 1039
7/18/06 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by PaulieORF View Post

I just "moved" to Boston.

I now have NESN HD! Woo hoo! I'll "move" back to Connecticut once DirecTV gets their act together and puts it on in CT.

congrats Paulie - enjoy. How is the PQ?
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post #740 of 1039
7/18/06 at 5:29pm
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congrats Paulie - enjoy. How is the PQ?

It's okay. There is one problem where the motion doesn't seem completely smooth. Wonder if they'll correct that. It's not that bad, I can certainly live with it.

**BONUS** All big 4 locals in HD!
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post #741 of 1039
7/18/06 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by PaulieORF View Post

I just "moved" to Boston.

I now have NESN HD! Woo hoo! I'll "move" back to Connecticut once DirecTV gets their act together and puts it on in CT.

I see that you're around 130 miles from Boston.. I was curious, how strong is the signal you're getting on NESNHD?
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post #742 of 1039
7/18/06 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by guffy1 View Post

I see that you're around 130 miles from Boston.. I was curious, how strong is the signal you're getting on NESNHD?

My H20 does not let me check the signal on any of the MPEG 4 spotbeam sats.
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post #743 of 1039
7/18/06 at 5:54pm
I'd also like to point out that there's a severe thunderstorm going on outside, and I still have my NESN HD, so the signal must be pretty strong.
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post #744 of 1039
7/18/06 at 6:23pm
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I'd also like to point out that there's a severe thunderstorm going on outside, and I still have my NESN HD, so the signal must be pretty strong.

Are you loosing channels on other satellites?
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post #745 of 1039
7/18/06 at 6:29pm
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Are you loosing channels on other satellites?

Getting a weaker signal on 119, like I always do in storms, but no picture problem on 119 channels.
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post #746 of 1039
7/18/06 at 7:04pm
if I my ask Paulie, how did you "move" to Boston, as I really need to join you!!! Please give me details.
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post #747 of 1039
7/18/06 at 7:05pm
Scobuck is getting yankees on 2 different HD channels and I can not even get the sox one one something is not right here.
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post #748 of 1039
7/18/06 at 7:32pm
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if I my ask Paulie, how did you "move" to Boston, as I really need to join you!!! Please give me details.

Check your PM.
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post #749 of 1039
7/18/06 at 7:48pm
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can't be IMO - there are a total of 64 transponders on the 2 SW birds - DirecTv says these birds can handle 1500 HD local channels - my math says a beam can handle more - but only an educated guess.

Well, no. They will be able to handle 1500 HD channels *after the next 2 sats go up* in 2007.

Even with the 2 sats now, you can have all the transponders in the world but if you have just 1 dedicated per market, once it fills up you're done. No more channels.

But like I said, that's about the only technical reason I can think of. Other then that it's just like Ken said, normal mess up when doing something this new and it will sort itself out over the next couple weeks or so. Hopefully anyway.
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post #750 of 1039
7/18/06 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by ScoBuck View Post

NY DMA report:

Channel 95 Yankees in MPEG2
Channel 96 Yankees in MPEG4

I have a big plasma - but both look identical to me. I know 96 is MPEG4 because I reset my H20 for 3lnb and 96 did NOT show.

Channel 97 (Online guide said Mets VS. Reds) NADA. Guide on tv says 'to be announced'

Just wondering Scobuck, do you have any guide data on ch 96 for the upcoming road series in Toronto. I heard the announcers plug Thursday's game in HD, when Mussina will face Halliday (sp?) ..should be a great match up.

After Wednesday's Seattle game, my HR10-250 is showing the next YES HD game on ch 95 to be against Boston, July 30th, who will be in 2nd place by then.

That Toronto series may the first series where mpeg-2 NY DMA subs will miss HD games available only in mpeg-4 on D*.
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