PC World Review of Samsung BD-P1000 - Page 6  

just get an Ipod or other flash drives that are growing in size daily

smaller, will work with any USB able PC/Mac/connection, don't need a BR player at your destination

BR for storing data is next too pointless.

you say that for the storage purposes only, but yet there is minidisc and thats a dying format that can hold 6 regular music disc on one mindisic yet no person wants mindisc one bit......the storage capacity it great.

I cant wait to read the review from HOME & GARDEN. They know which is best.
When i want something to do with a PC i will read PC World. Just like when i want to do something in my garden i wont be picking up an audio visual mag. This review just holds no useful information for me other than to advertise the Bd player.

One other quick comment that holds no relitively useful information if you dont mind. Why cant we call it BR instead of BD? I keep hitting the s instead of the d when i type and it is getting on my nerves and is probably gonna get me in trouble the one day i dont catch it.

We are calling it BR - we just keep hitting the neighboring 'D' instead. :)

:D thanks

I think you missed my point.

Right now, if I burn a CD with Data 100% of computers can take it. If I burn a DVD with my video (camcorder) I can give it to friends at work and they can play it.

One day, (I hope) all computers will have a BD and/or HD-DVD player/burner in them, just like DVD.

That is my only point. I need a BD/HD_DVD on my computer anyway, to burn my HD content (home movies, etc)... So I'd like it also to burn 100g too. perhaps 30 gig would cover it, but I'd really like 100g.

Not sure why you say that is pointless?

Someone just burned 5g onto a DVD yesterday at work. There are times when people (me) want to burn on media (10 copies) or whatever. That's all.

Way to go Josh, just what AVS needed :)

As we've all been told before: "Don't Feed The Trolls!" (An inherent waste of time and intellect.)

Now he has a new feeding ground. He doesn't even qualify as a fanboy, his bias is too extreme. Guess he just wants attention, huh? I wonder how much he's going to get.

-- Trevor

And therein lies the problem. Since many many displays introduce their own artifacts (DLP being a BIG offender), one must be very careful in attributing the perceived 'artifact' to the proper device.

very true. No display is perfect, the blu-ray movie "Hitch" I watched was also on a sammy 1080p DLP and had much more noise and artifacing. I'm sure some may be from the set in both cases but also some from the media itself.

Oh, I understood your point just fine.

But why bother buying $500 or $1000 burners when you can get flash drives for cheap and can be read from a lot of different digital devices. BR and HDDVD is backwards technology.

Carrying around a BR or HDDVD disc is useless if you can't play it anywhere.

USB is already prevalant, BR and HDDVD is a couple years away from making a dent on the PC.

During the next couple of years, flash drives are going to get larger and cheaper, dwarfing BR and HDDVD in storage size and cost.

I dont know i would love to have a BD-R/RW+/- HD DVD-R/RW +/- DVD-R/RW +/- CD Rom drive. And who would put it out? LITEON? LOL.

I do think the flash drive or a version of it could be the wave of the future and i could see it holding a terabyte and being the size of a pack of cigarettes. All it takes is time. I picked up a 512MB and it is awesome! I back up all my files at work on it then throw it in the desk. It only takes a couple of seconds as opposed to writing to a disc that would take upward of 10 minutes on the computer i have.

The BR and HDDVD drives will not always be that expensive however. And flash drives are not cheap and I dont think i would want to be giving people i work with one of my flash drives to bring to home so they can download a bunch of viruses so i can upload a bunch of viruses to put on my computer.

I love how the (undercover) fan-boys mention the mythical "200gig disc"

They are having trouble producing 50gig discs. Do you REALLY think they'll EVER be able to cram 8 layers onto a disc?

The current hardware can only read two layers! I'm telling you right now: Consumer BD players will NEVER support discs larger than 50gig. Why? The current hardware only supports up to 50gig. Would you piss off all the people that bought these early players be releasing higher capacity BD's that they won't be able to play?

If/when we EVER see BD's > 50gig, they will be writable discs for the PC only.

by the current hardware only supporting 50 gig what hardware are you refering to? The samsung player? Or both players? or all hardware including computers at this time.

They don't have to match. Just saying they have so much design expertise they hardly need a "discarded xbox design" ... which, btw, if it existed wouldn't have been able to play hd-dvd nor could have had an hdmi port.

How about storing movies at 50+ bitrates. HD-DVD can't do that. How about storing with less compression resulting in fewer artifacts.

Funny you should ask about better resolution. A 5000X2000 resolution picture was just discussed in a recent article.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/print....php?t=688916"

Obviously you don't understand the correlation between bitrates and codecs.

Right now, Blu-ray discs use "old fashioned" MPEG2. HD DVD uses the newer VC-1 codec. The point is that VC-1 can produce a better quality picture than MPEG2 at a lower bitrate. In other words, VC-1 is more efficient.

The only point where Blu-ray would have an advantage over HD DVD is if/when they release a 50gig disc which uses VC-1. If they stick with MPEG2, the extra 20gigs of space is largely wasted due to the inefficent nature of MPEG2.

LOL TO impress the wife as to justify spending a grand on Blu-Ray, you need to place "The Fifth Element" next to a black and white tv while playing the VHS tape of it. "OOHhh Honey, look at the colors" :)