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post #61 of 281
Thunderstruck at the generally positive appraisals of this one -- I find it cringe-inducing and poorly executed in the EXTREME. If you are to introduce a character that has apparent amnesia but extraordinary abilities, you MUST, MUST be very clever and attendant to detail and consistency to avoid looking inept and foolish in your presentation -- this series is the very definition of inept and foolish.

One moment Kyle will display perfect civility, the next utter some Tourettes-mimicing contemporary verbal flourish which we know he would understand is inappropriate. That kind of stuff really galls me and really is just so tired and hackneyed as to boggle the mind -- didactic enlightenment of our quaint ways shed through the fresh perceptions of the innocent -- barf-inciting dreck that has been done ten times better ad infinitum.

Example: Kyle meets Principal and slaps his palm and follows with a knuckle-to-knuckle backhand, in the manner of some cool dudes he has just seen in the hallway -- later when we are not calling for such a heavy-handed statement, he extends his hand with perfect conventional civility to meet someone else. He is baffled that everyone responds to a bell and knows where to go -- it is inconceivable he would not comprehend this perfectly -- or at VERY VERY LEAST, had it explained to him before being taken to his first day (which is OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY ill-advised, in any event) -- he knows he is there to learn as he states at some later point, but we are subjected to some pathetic pointed cliche about his being left alone when everyone goes to their designated class, when we know he would expect this -- being left alone, come to mention it, to take entrance exams -- of course, he never would be left unsupervised with presumably very well-guarded entry placement tests, let alone that he could cheat as well as steal the tests -- yuck!

We see him show the initiative and enterprise to soak up massive amounts of info from World Books, which demonstrates prodigious memory, but that same memory and that wondrous attendant deductive ability is so so faulty on other matters. Just little details like the pile of books being arrayed in front of him left open at halfway points and heaped on top of one another, reveal the lack of thought operative here -- if he were efficiently knocking back these volumes one by one, they would either all be open toward their last page, or more likely, shut and stacked, but instead we get the look of someone doing specific research, with the volumes cracked open to relevant passages. We know he did not miss a single question, so he presumably read everything the volumes contained (and it was all the right stuff to read). And of course that extraordinary reasoning ability later just seems to completely evaporate in the maddeningly naive and insipid narration.

Don't get me started on that Good Will Hunting solution and the teacher bursting in on a private conference and basically telling to the Principal to shut up, that what he is asking is important -- that whole hurtling toward the hurry-up abbreviated end was appalling -- the Principal just caving to Kyle's admission while all the characters stand around beaming -- YUCK YUCK YUCK!

The fact that you guys seem to like this (and the fact that I have watched it myself), really only reveals to me how starved we are for good entertainment in this reality summer, as well I suppose, how famished we are for good HD no matter what the vehicle.
post #62 of 281
We are all at the same level with regard to the ability to change the channel when we don't like something being aired. It is that simple, watch it and make your decision. I, personally, watch a program for it's entertainment value. Yes, there are many holes in Kyle, but I find that amusing. Your mileage may vary.
post #63 of 281
Changing the channel often does not seem to work in summer rerun season for some reason. But I've heard it's also possible to just turn the darn thing off when it gets too bad, and maybe go download something.

Anyway, I like this show. I'll be sad when it goes to SD-only on some channel I don't think I get.

- Tom
post #64 of 281
If a prior post is correct, Kyle will stay on for its entire 10 episode season. We've had 5 so far and there are 5 left, all on ABC-HD on Fridays through Sept 1.
post #65 of 281
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Originally Posted by Ladd View Post

Kyle's OK, as are his Dad and Mom.

But I couldn't give a rat's ass about the two kids and their problems. At least John Doe was mostly about "boring" grown-ups.

Funny you should mention that. I watched 15 minutes of the show this week with the math problem on the blackboard, and my response was "Hmmm. Good Will Hunting meets John Doe". Then I promptly flipped the channel in search of something more original.
post #66 of 281
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Originally Posted by Emaych View Post

Just little details like the pile of books being arrayed in front of him left open at halfway points and heaped on top of one another, reveal the lack of thought operative here -- if he were efficiently knocking back these volumes one by one, they would either all be open toward their last page, or more likely, shut and stacked, but instead we get the look of someone doing specific research, with the volumes cracked open to relevant passages.

I have to take issue with this part. How often have you looked up an entry in an encyclopedia that contained references to other items in other volumes? For example, an entry on the Tsetse fly might say "see also - Sleeping Sickness" or "see also Nagana", both of which would appear in other volumes. If you were learning this stuff for the first time, wouldn't you check out some of those "see also's"?

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Funny you should mention that. I watched 15 minutes of the show this week with the math problem on the blackboard, and my response was "Hmmm. Good Will Hunting meets John Doe". Then I promptly flipped the channel in search of something more original.

So how was Survivor meets Star Search - AKA, American Idol...?
post #67 of 281
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

We are all at the same level with regard to the ability to change the channel when we don't like something being aired. It is that simple, watch it and make your decision. I, personally, watch a program for it's entertainment value. Yes, there are many holes in Kyle, but I find that amusing. Your mileage may vary.

Right with you there on watching for entertainment value -- a possible difference may be that (and here I count myself most fortunate), I might quite easily derive entertainment value from relative awfulness as well as transcendant excellence and all gradations in-between.

In fact, often enough, fare such as West Wing might pose an attentiveness/alertness challenge which exceeds the parameters of a given condition of fatigue and/or mental acumen which I might bring to the table, and in such a case a Kyle XY may do nicely. Also, I would count myself a big proponent of the theory that one might as easily glean superlative production skills from watching dreck versus the sublime -- both have the ability to impart knowledge, possibly in equal measure, so the fact that a given production may be lacking in certain areas -- perhaps most -- would not be grounds for a ban from my screen -- on the contrary, I have reviewed films which I more or less mercilessly excoriated for inanity and concluded by giving my highest recommendation.

Lastly to this point, I might pose this: I do hope no one thinks that even disliking something bars one from commenting on it -- I will patiently sit out many things that I am less than enamored of, simply to be able to say I saw it, feel I have a handle on what it had to offer, and now here is my appraisal for what it is worth. How might I ever expect to be given better if I don't speak up and reveal the way in which I found it deficient? If I have sufficient time or inclination, I'm sure I quite enjoy detailing exactly what might have triggered my BS meters -- Kyle XY has had them on full alert, which brings us to:


NETWORKTV commented:

"I have to take issue with this part. How often have you looked up an entry in an encyclopedia that contained references to other items in other volumes? For example, an entry on the Tsetse fly might say 'see also - Sleeping Sickness' or 'see also Nagana', both of which would appear in other volumes. If you were learning this stuff for the first time, wouldn't you check out some of those 'see also's'?"

This was precisely my point -- the books were arrayed as if someone were doing specific research on a given topic -- not mass-crunching data in the page-turning fashion depicted even as they showed the books arrayed that way. Also, we are to assume that Kyle read, and was intending to read from the start, all the volumes and had perfect recall of every passage, therefore there was no need to bounce around between volumes for cross-reference -- he was going to get to everything in that one session anyway.

It is a minor point of course, and obviously I know one reason to depict it this way was for the visual appeal of a panoply of texts fanned out on the table -- same contributing reason they did not have him consulting the internet -- no visual appeal -- yet in this instance, combined with the other elements that had my BS meters pegging, it seemed ill advised, because it detracted from telling the story, showed he was not actually just efficiently absorbing page after page (which he continued to mime even as the books were piling up that way), and seemed to reveal the same sloppiness and mediocrity inherent to every episode I've seen.

And with that, I would hope they can make it better -- or not, I may give it up at a point, but I'll probably keep watching for now -- it is summer after all, and this show features some of the best new HD out there.
post #68 of 281
I'm pretty good a ignoring little illogical things that would distract from the story, at least if they aren't too extreme. And I assumed the story needed to be able to show the big pile of books at the end, just to show his progress.

But what bothered me for some reason was that at the speed they showed Kyle turning pages it didn't seem he could have turned all those pages in the alloted time. I'm not sure why it annoyed me.

But it didn't really detract from the story much.

- Tom
post #69 of 281
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But what bothered me for some reason was that at the speed they showed Kyle turning pages it didn't seem he could have turned all those pages in the alloted time. I'm not sure why it annoyed me.

But it didn't really detract from the story much.

- Tom

Got to say that irked me as well -- I'm always sensitive too of things such as the eyes drifting or pretending to scan a page, proceeding to the next, then glancing back at the opposite side page which was presumably already read -- this indicates fake reading, which I've caught people doing in real-life and which Kyle did there. I questioned whether even turning pages as quickly as one could, if he could have even gotten to the end (without reading), in the admittedly unspecified, but seeming to be relatively short time span.

I picked on that visual because it represented what is fundamentally amiss with this series -- inconsistency. In that case, the inconsistancy of the visual with the narrative, but the inconsistancy which kept slapping me in the forehead was Kyle's total naivety at one moment or in one instance, yet then in a very analogous situation, perfect intuition and/or deduction -- this speaks of lazy, poor, slipshod, careless production line fabrication from writing to execution.

The way I look at it is that these people are paid to exhibit something on THE WORLD STAGE -- would you not demand that it be well-crafted before airing, if this were your professional work product?

I'm the type of person who labors to make sure my postage stamps are on straight and if I mis-stroke a letter of the address, I scrap the envelope -- no one even looks at that kind of work product except to direct it, much less knows who I am -- it is just a reflection of my pride in craftmanship even in the most minor of matters -- some might say it is obsessive or AR, but here in the arena of internationally televised drama, one might expect greater attention to the mission at hand -- that mission being drama and any drama evolves out of viewer investment in the story -- if what we are being shown defies logic or constantly takes us out of the story and reminds us of the writer's failings, it is more than likely going to amount to a case of drama interruptus and/or short-lived series and there is certainly relatively less point in that than in doing it well.....yes?
post #70 of 281
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in the admittedly unspecified, but seeming to be relatively short time span.

Actually we know that from the time of starting to finishing the test it was supposedly 5 hours. All the other events including the wandering, reading, fighting, and testing took place in that interval.

- Tom
post #71 of 281
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

So how was Survivor meets Star Search - AKA, American Idol...?

I couldn't tell you. I've never seen a single episode of American Idol.
post #72 of 281
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I have to take issue with this part. How often have you looked up an entry in an encyclopedia that contained references to other items in other volumes? For example, an entry on the Tsetse fly might say "see also - Sleeping Sickness" or "see also Nagana", both of which would appear in other volumes. If you were learning this stuff for the first time, wouldn't you check out some of those "see also's"?


So how was Survivor meets Star Search - AKA, American Idol...?


Right on man!
post #73 of 281
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And then in the follow-up episode the young hussy gets treated as such by her own friends. Consequences are being displayed.


AHHH arent they grewing too fast to bad they cant be robots instead of teenagers
post #74 of 281
-- same contributing reason they did not have him consulting the internet -- no visual appeal -- yet in this instance, combined with the other elements that had my BS


Matter of fact, i'd rather that he use the internet. That's more realistic of teenage use today... Visual appeal or no appeal , directors are creative they could figure out how to make the internet work... I think high school theater depts use the encyclopedias as apple boxes come to think of it...
post #75 of 281
Sure the internet could have been made to work visually -- overwhelming floodwaters of data and information have appeared in films such as Beautiful Mind as swirling overlays of print and numerals, etc., but there are budgetary constraints operative here which I would not begrudge the producers. My point was that you must make your visuals conform to your story -- directorial decisions must arise from the imperative to advance the story (within the constraints of the budget), not impede it by shortcutting with something that does not fit, let alone something which actually tells a different story than the one you are trying to advance.
post #76 of 281
My guess is that if they had shown him using the internet it would have been 10 times more unrealistic than showing him use the encyclopedias. There would have been:

- lots and lots of keyboard strokes, even though reading lots of information would really just take a tiny bit of typing and lots and lots of clicking and scrolling.
- a fully 3D, animated "internet" that's unlike anything anyone has ever used to do research, ever (except in any other movie or TV show where someone uses a computer)
- lots of flashing colors, beeps, boops and swooshes as the aformentioned "internet" delivered its information
post #77 of 281
It's an absolutely great show. I haven't seen it once on ABC HD yet as I always catch it Monday on ABC Family. I just wish they had an ABC Family HD and a SCIFI HD. Then I'd be set.
post #78 of 281
Just watched the "Blame it on the Rain" episode and chuckled a bit because when Kyle noticed that the photo in newspaper of the missing professor was the mystery guy in his dream, they held the paper up to the camera.

In HD, you could read the text -- it was four paragraphs of text repeated over and over and over until if filled a half-page "above the fold" article.

At least it wasn't "Loren ipsum" ...

I can think of a number of shows where the text of the article would not only have been a complete article, it would have been critical to the plot, even if it was onscreen for only a second.
post #79 of 281
Posted on the Hot Off The Press sticky:

Cable TV Notebook
ABC Family high on 'Kyle'
Net okays second season for sci-fier
By Denise Martin Variety.com

ABC Family has given an early thumbs up to a second season of "Kyle XY."

Cabler has renewed the series, greenlighting at least 13 episodes from Touchstone Television and Benderspink. One-hour stars Matt Dallas as a mysterious teen who is naive to the world around him.

"Kyle" has overachieved for both ABC Family and ABC. Latter had initially agreed to a promotional four-episode run and later opted to run the entire 10-episode season (Daily Variety, Aug. 1). Agreement marks one of the only times a broadcaster has repurposed an entire season of a cable show; ABC signed up for a second window to USA Network's "Monk" in 2002.

Six episodes into the first season, "Kyle" ranks as ABC Family's most-watched original series among overall viewers (2.1 million), adults 18-34 (336,000) and adults 18-49 (793,000).

Meanwhile on ABC, drama has been finishing first in its time period in the key 18-49 demo. Alphabet's Friday repeats have drawn an average of 4.6 million overall viewers (1.8 million in 18-49), up 17% from the time period average a year ago.

A rep for ABC Family said there has been no decision regarding continued repurposing on ABC for "Kyle's" second season.
post #80 of 281
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... "screwing" requires intent. ...

I thought this was wrong at first ("inadvertently screw" got 305,000 Google hits), but I've come to think it's right. Only very seldom is "screw" used with a personal object together with an adverb such as "accidentally" which denies intent. (Please excuse the tangent.)
post #81 of 281
Does anyone know if they decided to re-air the show on ABC because of feedback from HD viewers or OTA-only viewers or both?
post #82 of 281
I'm going to guess the OTA folks. There are a whole bunch more of them then us.
post #83 of 281
Have to say there was alot less to object to in this week's episode than in previous outings. Sure there were still a few remnant clunker, forehead-slappers like the "insight" about the birthday celebration being in fact a celebration of just another year closer to death. Of course this is offered up as another in the assortment of "innocent lends ironic insight by fresh viewing" moments which generally fall flat. And of course this does not really represent fresh insight -- it is a cliche, of course -- but the far worse aspect of it is that it does not strike me as the type of thing a true blank slate would conjur up -- he would likely take the celebration at face value -- it a celebration of the corresponding date of one's birth in subsequent years -- no, it is not a celebration of being closer to death, aging or any other thing per se -- these are things which may be true of aging, but they are not being celebrated by the birthday party -- that is not what it is for. Besides the "insight" gains its irony from the baggage WE associate with death and aging, not what a true innocent likely would, so for me it just did not ring true.

And then there was the glaring continuity error of Dad proclaiming (about the mystery person lurking at the window) that we don't have a stalker/burgler, just a scared teen afraid to admit what he had done to his Dad -- as viewers, we had this info, but Dad made the pronouncement before daughter and boyfriend even came downstairs, let alone told him anything. That was sloppy.

Also admit to being irritated by the angle and focus changing on the secreted security cameras, which are presumably fixed, as in getting a close-up of boyfriend coming through window. So to get another angle of the same scene, we need to change over to camera two -- oh, now there are two or more in one room alone! It was hard enough to believe that our mystery operative had an hour or so to install just the ones they intitially showed working, let alone an untold number. Remember, the alarm would have to have been turned off, showing the family to be home, then activated just before the operative broke the window, to register a break-in and thereby ensure that the security company corroborated he had a reason to be there, but if the family had been there (alarm off), how come they were just coming home when the alarm suddenly went off? Anyway, just more inexplicable stuff, which can build up at a tipping point.

I will say too that I am no fan of weather prediction to the minute -- so many pitfalls to this -- even the services which constantly monitor this fail to get it right, let alone Kyle whose info has got to be hours old and/or incomplete. I was pleasantly surprised when they showed him getting it wrong, but then they followed with the miracle of the lightning presaging which involved smelling ozone of all things. We know he read about ozone and probably the meaning of its presence during a thunderstorm, but when did he ever associate the information with the smell? Just more leftover tidbits.

We saw that he now knows the definition of every word, as in "wallowing" -- it will be interesting to note if they ever show a naive misinterpretation involving words again.

Anyway, all the nitpicks are meant to demonstrate that to make something like this work really well, you have to be very attentive to the things you set up, otherwise the audience, even without knowing how or why, just does not believe it ultimately, and that is what can happen early on to me. I will say though that the show is not deplorably bad or embarassing on every level -- I do like the fantastic possible alien angle, and the mystery element plays fairly well. In fact, there are alot of things out there that do not even approach this level of credible.
post #84 of 281
Geez Em, do you actually have time to watch the show, or are you just keeping a list of errors?

If you don't like the show, change the damn channel!
post #85 of 281
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Geez Em, do you actually have time to watch the show, or are you just keeping a list of errors?

If you don't like the show, change the damn channel!

You know, thank you for that comment. That is something that was puzzling me. I respect anyone's right to critique a show, and yes there are some plot holes you could drive a truck through in Kyle XY, but I have wondered why anyone would continue to watch a show s/he dislikes only to write lengthy posts of everything that is wrong. Still, that's what makes a forum like this so fascinating.

Personally, I'm not getting into the credibility issues. For some reason, Kyle XY has hooked me. Maybe it is the characters, or the situations, or the mystery, but it just seems to work for me...and as Fredfa has posted...apparently enough other people to have it renewed for a second season.
post #86 of 281
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Geez Em, do you actually have time to watch the show, or are you just keeping a list of errors?

If you don't like the show, change the damn channel!

Here is how watching this show washes over me: it is not so action packed or intricately complex that my mind can scarcely keep pace with the plot, nor is it in some other significant way so singularly engaging that I am limited to struggling to gain a sense of it and/or just "watching" it to the exclusion of other thought.

We are to believe that here is a very very very extraordinary fellow who suddenly appears but has apparent amnesia -- I guess that were I to have thought of it, I would've realized this was going to be a pretty difficult thing to pull off, but instead I just watched in the early going with a fair sense of anticipation.

Then came the silliness -- Kyle witnesses some would-be gangster types tossing slang, then applies that to polite dinner conversation when his mind is supposed to be beyond genius at deciphering infinite complexities and subtleties. He is trying to fit in, but makes some rather gross errors of social judgment which are precisely counter to his purpose. Something here does not strike me as sound character development, so my attention has been drawn away from the story and into the silliness. In something well done, I find I'm not so prone to this kind of diversion, but.....

The silliness continues to pile on and I continue to think about it a little -- how is it that our mystery security man has all that time to plant an extremely sophisticated surveilance system in the house? -- alarm must be off, but then when the family comes back home, he breaks a window which the family hears and rushes toward -- wait a minute, security guy is working with the alarm off, but has to turn it on so that a break-in is registered at the exact time the family is coming home, but they would immediately turn off the alarm themselves when they stepped inside, so how does the security company know that their NEW employee was there ACTUALLY INSIDE THE FAMILY HOUSE for a valid cause?

Well, Dad calls the security company very suspicious, but they do not report to him that the alarm had been off for an hour or hours just before a breach -- was the alarm on and registering a break-in for all that time? -- don't these companies call the house or their employee or the police in that situation? -- and when they do that, isn't the alarm situation addressed, so that security guy's time is limited to mere minutes?

Stuff such as this simply crosses my mind as I'm watching, it is not an either watch OR catalogue flaws situation -- these processes are quite concurrent, which is really the heart of the problem here -- suddenly the viewer is thinking more about how these things happen than the writer has -- at least I do.

I chose to comment on this series, so wanted to be specific and think I have been. I have watched what they are offering up and have found enough entertainment value to continue watching and enough that needs work to deliver a perspective on what could be improved -- to some this would appear as if I should change the channel -- I really don't quite get that.

I love this medium of entertainment -- good, bad, and/or ugly. I likely get as much entertainment from the inane and poorly done as I do the sublime, and certainly am entertained by analyzing why a given thing did not work for me as well as why it may have. I do not find Kyle boring, which WOULD be the kiss of death, but it is certainly small challenge to determine, at least for me, how it might be improved -- in fact, for those participating in this forum, that is a whole realm of entertainment in itself, so without being the least bit ironic, it might be easily said that Kyle has provided me some of the best televised entertainment of my summer thus far, even while being a somewhat marginal and mediocre series -- don't really know how to make it any more clear than that.
post #87 of 281
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Originally Posted by petergaryr View Post

You know, thank you for that comment. That is something that was puzzling me. I respect anyone's right to critique a show, and yes there are some plot holes you could drive a truck through in Kyle XY, but I have wondered why anyone would continue to watch a show s/he dislikes only to write lengthy posts of everything that is wrong. Still, that's what makes a forum like this so fascinating.

Personally, I'm not getting into the credibility issues. For some reason, Kyle XY has hooked me. Maybe it is the characters, or the situations, or the mystery, but it just seems to work for me...and as Fredfa has posted...apparently enough other people to have it renewed for a second season.

I perfectly respect and do find it interesting that some may not be getting drawn into credibility issues, so thank you for that perspective. Perhaps this IS why the series seems to be doing well -- for my part, I would say it is serving my purposes perfectly well enough, even while I AM drawn into those issues.

So maybe we are talking about thresholds of toleration for silly/less credible elements and perhaps there is a different tipping point for each of us in an ultimate sign-off from watching -- I hope I have made it clear that Kyle is not absurd in the same degree as, say, another ABC series, HOPE AND FAITH, which did certainly surpass my toleration of inanity -- I think my only reference to that ever has been as a benchmark of "so silly as to preclude entertainment value."
post #88 of 281
Emaych must have absolutely hated the original Star Trek....... I wonder if he wrote treatises on that program as well. Or maybe, like Hitchcock, he gets off on his command of the English language.
post #89 of 281
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Emaych must have absolutely hated the original Star Trek....... I wonder if he wrote treatises on that program as well. Or maybe, like Hitchcock, he gets off on his command of the English language.

So to read a little into your post, may we assume that you think there may have been some possibly silly elements to the original STAR TREK as well? -- presumably to such extent that those elements may have called attention to themselves and thereby merited critical commentary? And if you do recognize and/or acknowledge that there was something to criticize there (and even seem to be putting this premise forth as something of a widely accepted given), would there then be something not quite proper about having rendered such analysis at that time and by extension, in this present case of Kyle?

Sorry if I've misinterpreted here, but you seem to be suggesting that pointing out flaws, even possibly obvious ones that may become the defining perception of a given offering, is improper, not to mention that "command of the English language" might be not such a worthy aspiration either?
post #90 of 281
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Originally Posted by Emaych View Post

I perfectly respect and do find it interesting that some may not be getting drawn into credibility issues, so thank you for that perspective. Perhaps this IS why the series seems to be doing well -- for my part, I would say it is serving my purposes perfectly well enough, even while I AM drawn into those issues.

So maybe we are talking about thresholds of toleration for silly/less credible elements and perhaps there is a different tipping point for each of us in an ultimate sign-off from watching -- I hope I have made it clear that Kyle is not absurd in the same degree as, say, another ABC series, HOPE AND FAITH, which did certainly surpass my toleration of inanity -- I think my only reference to that ever has been as a benchmark of "so silly as to preclude entertainment value."

It may just be the old "suspension of disbelief" quandry.

Personally, I like the new Battlestar Galactica. I watch it in SD on the Sci Fi channel, and the HD repeats on UHD. Yet even in that incredibly good show, I have to accept:

- explosions can be heard in the vacuum of space
- you can make a robot down to molecular level that is indistinguishable from a human (except for the silicon brain)
- Baltar can survive a nuclear explosion through "duck and cover"
-Starbuck is a woman (hubba, hubba!)

I think that show works for me because they create a construct, then remain true to its "rules". With Kyle XY, I am accepting that:

-a teenage boy without a belly button is "born" or "hatched" or whatever in a forest
-said boy has knowledge beyond his experience, yet is able to comment on the "human condition"
-nobody but the girl next door has noticed Kyle can leap off a roof and not get hurt, and even she isn't freaked out by it
-said girl finds many pictures of her in Kyle's bedroom, or bath tub room, and doesn't go screaming to the police about the "stalker nutcase next door", but rather asks him, "you don't, um, 'like' me do you?"

...and so forth

Yet, I think it is a well done show despite that and I actually care about most of the characters. On the other hand, I kept hoping NIM would eat Miles on the dearly departed Surface.
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