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post #121 of 274
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Originally Posted by Noya View Post

For you having such nice, pricey gear, I'm amazed you didn't spring the few extra bucks to get them a higher quality system. As for putting together "a bunch of cheapo speakers and receivers"...it sounds like you let Onkyo do that for you (especially on the speakers). Let me know how you enjoy your new HTIB.

Well it was not my money.. Parents wanted something on a tight budget and $850 with shipping sounded pretty good. Got it at Vanns. I think they will be happy with it considering what they are use to hearing. If they want to hear the good stuff they just have to come to my house. I told them they could spend alittle over 1k and get better quality but they didnt want to spend the money. Overall $850 for complete system isnt that bad for them. Plus I got them 4 speaker stands they really needed and still ended up under 1k.
post #122 of 274
Sorry this took so long guys... I forgot that I registered here and when I remembered I couldn't find the site.

Anyway, here's my review:

As a former Circuit City sales person in the Audio Department, I have listened to and hooked up many different brands and types of receivers. If they were all as satisfying and easy as the HTS990THX I would probably still work there. The sound quality is the best I have ever heard from a HTIB set up. The speakers are made solid and don't feel flimsy like most HTIB speakers and deliver a very crisp and clean sound. The 12 inch powered sub delivers very rich and full bass, powerful enough to shake your room while your watching a good action flick but clean enough to listen to your favorite music without much distortion. If your limited in space, the speakers and sub may be a bit bulky for you, but they are by no means an eye sore in your living room or family room. If your looking for something the size of a Bose system, this isn't the one for you. If your looking for something that sounds fantastic (better than Bose in my opinion) without breaking the bank, this is the system for you.

Set up was a breeze. Even the most inexperienced person should have no problem following along with the user manual. The directions are written very clearly and in easy to understand language. Diagrams are also included for virtually every step of the process. If you choose to use the included speaker cables, they are all color coded to help you with speaker placement. However, I recommend spending the extra money and buying some heavier guage monster wire. Your system will only sound as good as your weakest link and many people make the mistake of using inferior wire and then wonder why they are disappointed with sound. If the speaker wire is not in your budget for now, the included wire is definitely adequate until you spend the money. All other wires (digital/optical cables, etc.) are sold seperately.

The receiver is powerful and very feature rich. It has multiple inputs for all your components, with multiple types of input jacks for each. The only type of input this receiver is lacking is HDMI. I prefer direct connection with video sources anyway, because no matter how good a component is, each one you add in the line between the monitor and the source degrades the signal. If you're worried that you'll have 5 remote controls, don't... The univeral remote included operates my T.V., DVD , VCR, Digital Cable Box and of course the receiver itself with almost no loss of functionality. Once you program the device you wish to control, a little experimenting will lead you to find that almost every feature on the original remote is available at one of the buttons of the universal. My only gripe is that there is no On-Screen viewing that I've come to expect with a receiver of this level. If you've never had it, you won't miss it. A multi-zone function is also available, for listening to your favorite music or movies in other rooms of the house.

There are a ton of listening modes to choose from. You can find one to suit any person, mood or environment. Music, Movies or Televisiion all sound excellent. The user manual is very easy to follow and gives some very helpful hints on which sound mode best fits which scenario. It also gives good advice on setting proper speaker distances which is key to any surround sound set up, especially a 7.1 system. Last but certainly not least of all is the THX modes. THX certification isn't just handed out to anybody, and as of right now, this is the only HTIB system that is THX certified. When you watch a THX movie, you'll see why it's so important. I watched Star Wars Episode 3 and was blown away. The sound was amazing! Dim the lights and pop some popcorn and you'll feel like your sitting in the movies.

What attracted me most to this system was the price. I shopped around for quite some time, and resigned myself to the fact that I would be spending well over $1000 on just the receiver and speakers, never mind the cables and sub-woofer. When I started reading some of the reviews on this system (which was not widely available at the time) I decided to give it a shot and ordered it online. I was not disappointed. The sound quality and features offered for under $1000 is amazing. If you're not familiar with Home theatre, in can be a daunting task trying to put together a quality system on a budget. Well, Onkyo has taken the guess work out of it for you and put together a great system for a great price. This system still leaves room to grow if down the line you decide you want some full size front speakers in favor of a sub, or even in addition to. Overall, I highly recommend this system.
post #123 of 274
Torkibe, good review. That's what I've been saying all along. The 990 sounds awesome. The speakers don't sound muddy to me at all. Very clean and crisp. The only complaint I would have is that you have to run an analog signal for the b speakers to work and the system goes to a 5.1 system when b speakers are being used. But that's a very small complaint. And Like you said, set-up is a breeze. For $899 this is a great budget system. And I've been hearing that you can pick it up for less with free shipping and no taxes on the internet.
post #124 of 274
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Originally Posted by Leftey View Post

Torkibe, good review. That's what I've been saying all along. The 990 sounds awesome. The speakers don't sound muddy to me at all. Very clean and crisp. The only complaint I would have is that you have to run an analog signal for the b speakers to work and the system goes to a 5.1 system when b speakers are being used. But that's a very small complaint. And Like you said, set-up is a breeze. For $899 this is a great budget system. And I've been hearing that you can pick it up for less with free shipping and no taxes on the internet.

Thanks Lefty. I haven't run the B speakers yet, so I haven't run into that problem yet. I've got a pair of Cerwin Vega D9s that I have to re-foam. Once I get those done I'll be drilling holes in my ceiling so I can run them up to my bedroom, lol. Chances are if I'm upstairs listening to music, I won't need 7.1 downstairs.
post #125 of 274
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Originally Posted by Noya View Post

For you having such nice, pricey gear, I'm amazed you didn't spring the few extra bucks to get them a higher quality system. As for putting together "a bunch of cheapo speakers and receivers"...it sounds like you let Onkyo do that for you (especially on the speakers). Let me know how you enjoy your new HTIB.

Have you ever even listened to it?
post #126 of 274
I just installed this HTIB last night for my parents. Setup was pretty smooth and the remote codes worked for all their equipment. It has a ton of listening options and it was sorta confusing to me seeing how I had to leave the rear surrounds out. Its running 5.1 and sounds pretty damn good for only costing $850. I got them 4 speaker stands and had to go purchase two optical and two component cables so that cost them alittle more.

The speakers are pretty light, even the sub. But I am use to a paradigm servo 15 and SVS PB12+2 so everything seems light. The speakers are finished enough to look pretty slick sitting on the black speaker stands I got them. Once I finally figured out how to get it to go DD instead of PLII the dvds sounded pretty sweet. Even in the Pro logic the system sounded really good. One thing I forgot to do is play a CD. However, the turner was a breeze to setup and sounded pretty nice.

I was pretty worried about the system because if I had spent maybe $350 more I could have put together some seperates that may sound alot better. But, once I installed this thing I was really pleased with the sound. For $850 (just the HTIB) I am very happy with the results. Nice job to onkyo for making such a nice little budget system. Now if my parents dont screw up all the settings everything should be ok. THey like to press buttons
post #127 of 274
myriadcorp,
How did you tweak the playback decoding to use DD? I only tried pushing that button a few times until I gave up and decided to let the receiver decide everything for me... I have no idea how to actually tweak this to sound "the best" depending on what media it's playing.

I have all my sources digitally connected to it.
post #128 of 274
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Originally Posted by rsk View Post

How did you tweak the playback decoding to use DD?

set the audio output of the DVD player to "bitstream", and the receiver will automatically switch to Dolby Digital, provided that info is encoded on the disc (most cases). if it is outputting audio as "PCM" you will not get DD 5.1 and are missing out on a HUGE part of the HT experience.
post #129 of 274
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Originally Posted by rsk View Post

myriadcorp,
How did you tweak the playback decoding to use DD? I only tried pushing that button a few times until I gave up and decided to let the receiver decide everything for me... I have no idea how to actually tweak this to sound "the best" depending on what media it's playing.

I have all my sources digitally connected to it.

If the source isn't digitally encoded DD 5.1 or better, you won't be able to get to the DD setting no matter how many times you press the button. Even Digital cable and satellite are not normally broadcast in 5.1. Most of the Hi-Def channels are, but not the standard channels.
post #130 of 274
[quote=Noya]@ RSK,

Here is your best bang for the buck option:

Buy 7 of these speakers:


Along with a FACTORY refurbished receiver (original warranty):

100ft of Speaker wire (you might need less):


Digital Coaxial (DVD player to Receiver):


Banana plugs for your speaker wires:


Subwoofer Cable


Then go for a subwoofer along the lines of an SVS or HSU, which are undoubtedly the best for the money- so don't skimp.



And there you go, similar price of the Onkyo HTIB with much better sound and quality.




Just wanted to say thanks to Noya and the rest of you. This is my first true HT system and all this information was really helpful. I was going to go with the Onkyo 990, but decided to build my system instead. I have most of it ordered and hope to have it ready for Thanksgiving. Everyone has made informative arguments and I think the great thing about this site is it points people in the right direction to make an intelligent choice. I feel good about my purchases and I think that is the most important thing...well, that and the sound of course! Thanks guys!
post #131 of 274
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Originally Posted by biggie_fry View Post

Just wanted to say thanks to Noya and the rest of you. This is my first true HT system and all this information was really helpful. I was going to go with the Onkyo 990, but decided to build my system instead. I have most of it ordered and hope to have it ready for Thanksgiving. Everyone has made informative arguments and I think the great thing about this site is it points people in the right direction to make an intelligent choice. I feel good about my purchases and I think that is the most important thing...well, that and the sound of course! Thanks guys!

glad you found all of the information helpful. the 990 is a unique case in the HTIB world, b/c there are so many other options at that pricepoint...which in my view means it has got to perform as well as or better than some other otptions.

so what did you end up going with?
post #132 of 274
I ended up with this setup:

Pioneer 1016
Primus 150 x 5
SVS PB10

It was about $350 more than the Onkyo 990 with shipping and taxes, but I think my system will allow for a lot more flexibility in the future...for my needs anyhow. I did struggle with the receiver the most, as the 1016 cost more than I know I had to pay to get equivalent sound, but it had the options I wanted when I upgrade in the future.

I'll let you know how it works out...can't wait until it all gets here.
post #133 of 274
oh yeah, and I just bought the Panny 900 about a month ago to go with it. Now I have to surf the forum to find the right screen!
post #134 of 274
nice choice in gear, good speakers, great receiver, terrific sub.

you'll know where the extra $$$ went as soon as you get that PB-10 going.
post #135 of 274
For all the 990THX owners,

Have you noticed a faint mono sound coming from the sub when there is no audio signal input (e.g. in standby mode)? I could always hear it when I sit near a few feet away from the sub in the quiet room. It does not affect the listening but it is a little annoying when you are trying to enjoy some quiet time alone at night. The sound is alot like that from a working high-voltage transformer.

This is the first time I own such a big sub. So maybe the experts here can tell me if it is typical for these powered subs.

Thanks a lot!
post #136 of 274
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Originally Posted by raymondj View Post

For all the 990THX owners,

Have you noticed a faint mono sound coming from the sub when there is no audio signal input (e.g. in standby mode)? I could always hear it when I sit near a few feet away from the sub in the quiet room. It does not affect the listening but it is a little annoying when you are trying to enjoy some quiet time alone at night. The sound is alot like that from a working high-voltage transformer.

This is the first time I own such a big sub. So maybe the experts here can tell me if it is typical for these powered subs.

Thanks a lot!

Hey raymondj, my sub isn't emmitting any kind of humm(mono sound), on or in stand by mode. Nor has it ever. Do you have it near any high voltage items? Or maybe try to plug into a different outlet. Also unpug the rca plug from the recvr to see if that would make the noise go away. If you can't find a remedy, you should give onkyo a call.
post #137 of 274
Thanks, Leftey. I have actually contacted Onkyo and the Tech basically gave me the same suggestion as yours. I tried many things and nothing changed. Like I said, it is a faint humming. If you don't mind, please put your ear near the back of the sub and see if you hear anything. Maybe I am just too sensitive but I thought for this type of high end HTIB, there should not be any noise.

Thanks again!
post #138 of 274
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Originally Posted by raymondj View Post

Thanks, Leftey. I have actually contacted Onkyo and the Tech basically gave me the same suggestion as yours. I tried many things and nothing changed. Like I said, it is a faint humming. If you don't mind, please put your ear near the back of the sub and see if you hear anything. Maybe I am just too sensitive but I thought for this type of high end HTIB, there should not be any noise.

Thanks again!

I just checked again and can not hear anything coming from the sub in the standby mode. So once your sytem is turned on is the humm gone at that point? What is the knob on the back of the sub set on? And/or the setting on the recvr for the sub? Right now I'm thinking you have a bonified warranty replacemnt sub in your near future. You know what I'm sayin?
post #139 of 274
I'm another newbie considering the HTS990THX. Besides the great sound, I was thinking that the video upconversion would be a nice benefit. Doesn't the unit allow upconversion to 1080i for normal signals? Doesn't this feature really improve the video quality on channels that are not HD?
post #140 of 274
Thanks, Leftey. You are right. I am going to ask Onkyo for a replacement. Not a pleasant thing to do.
post #141 of 274
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Originally Posted by raymondj View Post

Thanks, Leftey. You are right. I am going to ask Onkyo for a replacement. Not a pleasant thing to do.

I understand, that stinks but you'll feel better knowing your next one won't have an annoying humm in it. Let me know how your warranty experience goes.
post #142 of 274
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Originally Posted by raymondj View Post

Thanks, Leftey. You are right. I am going to ask Onkyo for a replacement. Not a pleasant thing to do.

Actually, I have to say they were pretty good to me. I had one of my surround's go bad. I called up and they (customer service) said as it is a HTIB, they couldn't replace a single speaker. So they directed me to a repair shop. After a month of being told they were waiting on a part, they finally told me Onkyo said they didn't have the part because the item was so new. I called Onkyo and spoke to the service department (not customer service) and they said they would call me back in a little while. About an hour later I got a call back saying they would be breaking open a set and sending a new speaker since the part wasn't available yet. If you're lucky, you can get the sub from the same set!
post #143 of 274
Does anyone know what you need to mount the surround speakers? I'm looking for a specific part, mounting bracket, etc.

My wife and I are moving to Springfield, IL in a couple weeks and we want to mount the four surround speakers. I'm not real keen on dropping $20 each for the 8lb Omnimount bracket, but will do so if need be.

Also, what gage speaker wire should I look for? We are going to have longer speaker runs (using the in-box wire currently and some runs are maxed) and just want to pick up a spool of wire to throw in a box before the movers come.

Any help would be MUCH appreciated. Thanks!
post #144 of 274
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Originally Posted by JohnnytheSkin View Post

Does anyone know what you need to mount the surround speakers? I'm looking for a specific part, mounting bracket, etc.

My wife and I are moving to Springfield, IL in a couple weeks and we want to mount the four surround speakers. I'm not real keen on dropping $20 each for the 8lb Omnimount bracket, but will do so if need be.

Also, what gage speaker wire should I look for? We are going to have longer speaker runs (using the in-box wire currently and some runs are maxed) and just want to pick up a spool of wire to throw in a box before the movers come.

Any help would be MUCH appreciated. Thanks!

Johnny, I'm using picture hooks to hang my speakers. They don't look like they can handle the weight of the speaker but I haven't had one fall yet. It's kind of tricky to put them on the hook but once you do they don't move. I used the little, adhesive, rubber spacers on the back of the speakers to keep any vibrations to a minimum and so they wouldn't scratch the wall up. As far as speaker wire goes, you can pick that up at homedepot or lowes for pretty cheap. 14g is what I'm using but you could use 16g also. If I remember right, 16g was signifigantly cheaper than 14g.
post #145 of 274
if your speaker runs are more than 25ft, 14 AWG wire would be your best bet. if you'r going to invest in better speaker wire, might as well make it worth it with some good, heavy duty stuff. i use 14AWG for all my runs, and none are even that long.
post #146 of 274
I'm going to be going into a new house and would like some help with this system in regard to speaker placement. Basically I'm looking for pictures or help with the surrounds.

Currently I have my couch in the middle of the room, the sides perfectly in line, and the surround backs about four feet behind. However this layout may NOT be possible after moving.

Any help, diagrams, pics, etc. would be much appreciated. I guess my main question is if the couch is on a wall, can I have the surrounds still in line and directly above and behind me on the wall where the couch is?

Thanks!
post #147 of 274
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Originally Posted by G-star View Post

if your speaker runs are more than 25ft, 14 AWG wire would be your best bet. if you'r going to invest in better speaker wire, might as well make it worth it with some good, heavy duty stuff. i use 14AWG for all my runs, and none are even that long.

Where do you guys get these numbers from? Especially regarding HTIB with very limited power. Bring in your 14g to our shop and I will run at least 75' of 16g to each speaker on a htib and you will not hear a difference. We have had many so called installers try and say what you said and all have been proven wrong.

People just because you hear or read that you need 14g or 12g for x amount of feet or else, do not believe them and try for yourself.

Obviously if you are talking about sending alot of real power continuously (good amp) yes I would use at least 14g for my stuff.

Look at Ken Cranes set-up. 90% of their store is ran with 16g. That's including their high-end. I know personally I set up their demo room for them and supplied me with 16g. If you go to the long beach ken cranes also check all the wires they are almost all 16g ran inside the wall.
post #148 of 274
[quote=biggie_fry][quote=Noya]@ RSK,

Here is your best bang for the buck option:

Buy 7 of these speakers:


Along with a FACTORY refurbished receiver (original warranty):

100ft of Speaker wire (you might need less):


Digital Coaxial (DVD player to Receiver):


Banana plugs for your speaker wires:


Subwoofer Cable


Then go for a subwoofer along the lines of an SVS or HSU, which are undoubtedly the best for the money- so don't skimp.



And there you go, similar price of the Onkyo HTIB with much better sound and quality.

Wow, where and when did you demo the Onkyo and the system you are stating above. To say that it has much better sound then the Onkyo.

Maybe it does but at least give us some feed back. Instead of just piecing together a system and guesstimating that it will be better.




This is my first true HT system

What do you consider "True HT System"? In that case my set-up should be a "True Super HT System"

I am not being an A$$ but just proving a point that people just repeat what they read without testing. Please if you do not know and just repeating to up your post, do all the newbies and other forum members a favor and do not post. At least regarding the sound quality or even build quality if you do not have first hand knowledge.

Since your in L A feel free to bring down you set-up and I will get the Onkyo in stock and we can truely compare your "True HT System" with the Onkyo HTIB. I will even let you hook up and be in charge of the demo.
post #149 of 274
hi guys,

i have just got this HTIB. i must say its pretty good.

However i have noticed flickering image if progressive scan component sources inputted to the receiver are channel out to my hdtv.

i have tried xbox 360 and a pioneer dvd player and both are having the same problems. so far, it can only be solved by direct inputs to the hdtv from sources.

am i missing something or it is indeed a limitation of the receiver?



[update]: I suspect it may be dued to the position of my center speaker nearing the hdtv although its supposed to be magnetic shielded. any help is very welcomed
post #150 of 274
I can't help you with that since I'm not running any video sources to the recvr. But my center speaker is directly on top of my tv and I'm not having any magnetic problem with the shielding.
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