Anyone tried the new Esoteric DV-60? - Page 2

Frankly I have not heard it in mutil-channel as I have a CBIII without a 6shooter. The redbook sound is outstanding and the video quality beats out my Denon 3910. Overall,I am extremely happy with the 2 channel sound if this machine. To make it even better, I will get the G25, as BP and I hear a significant difference at the Esoteric room at CES. Bulldogger you should be very pleased with either the SA60 or DV60.

Thanks badbenzz. What are you using for a pre-amp? I say with all seriousness that the Six Shooter is good enough to justify buying it just to use with two channel sources. For 2k, I do not know of any two channel pre-amps that can beat it or even come close. It still is hard for me to get out of New Orleans to go and demo the Esoteric. I am bogged down with repairs to rental property. The promise of even better sound with the add on clock is intriguing.

Have you all read this review? http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/e...c2/g25u_2.html

What a poor reviewer, the guys thoughts are all over the place, very difficult reading for me.

Little information on some of the best components. Lost of the really good stuff is out there on the fringe. Have to take what you can get as far as reviews. I can judge by the systems that both badbenzz and BP have that their opinions are credible. Steve Bruzonsky has some great ears too. It is nice when you have guys like this to give you a "head up" on what should be on your short list to audition. Some know-it-all with about 500.00 worth of speakers and who have been reading a book can not really help you. If reading would get you there all you would need would be a cook book to become a great chief. This is why you need to know exactly how experienced the guy giving the recommendations is. With the internet, some 15 year old can "know" as much as the next guy. I am not into listening to guys that are 15 or guys with 500.00 worth of speakers.

Bulldogger I may give you a review on multi-channel soon. I'm trying to pick up a 6shooter and will know soon.

Hey Bulldogger - I own the DV-60 and it is superb - also you do not need to leave New Orleans to demo the DV-60 - you have a local dealer near you - it is the same dealer that I bought mine from - additionally you are welcome to come and audition the player at my home - My current setup includes the DV-60 with Maggie 3.6 and and combo of ARC and Anthem gear - contact me if you are interested - FYI - My Video have NEVER been better - the video is outstanding - I am dumbfounded by how good it is - now if they could just get the DV-60 universal to sound more like the ARC CD7 I would be in hog heaven - but I guess you always need something else to add for the future.

Gus

I am considering the DV-60, but also ARCAM's newest . Thoughts?

A customer that I recently sold the new Arcam DV139 raves about its performance. He tried the Esoteric DV50s but found it to be too sterile for him. The Arcam is detailed yet very musical. This was in a B&W system using Classe amplifiers. Dont know how the DV60 would compare.

Interestingly the Arcam DV139 has superior video processing than the DV60, as it features ABT processing in BOTH deinterlacing and scaling, whereas the Estoeric employs older Faroudja DCDi deinterlacing with ABT scaling.

Great! I'll contact you.

Thanks. You have already helped me with your comments about Red book performance. The last SACD player I had the Sony XA9000 just did not do it for me with Red book. I tried to like the player but just never really warmed to it and sold it. Recent comments about the video performance in Home Theater Mag, have me thinking that perhaps I should indeed get the DV-60 instead of the SA-60.

I am ready to purchase either the DV or SA 60 for my son and was wondering which one. Also, there question was never answered about the cdp performance. If any of you guys own this player please explain your interpretations of this player. Currently he has a Musical Fidelity A5. Would this be an improvement for him? Thanks Guys!!

the mf is tube whereas the esoteris is ss. i prefer the esoteric, but many will enjoy the nf's more lush midrange. the esoteric definately does things more "right" in my book, but your son may prefer the mf. all depends on his sonic tastes. spec wise, the esoteric is above the mf, if your son wants a cd only player then go with the sa. if he wants dvd, then the dv. i believe i read somewhere where someone did a comparisoin between the 2 and said the sa was better on redbook than the dv.

I have an "old" DV-50 the I have sent to The Upgrade Company. I would recommend this path in a heartbeat. My player is so far beyond what it was originally it is not even funny. Actually, I would recommend contacting them and finding out what Dave thinks would fit your needs based on what your preferences are.

FWIW, I have had a lot of players in my system too, including Modwright and APL.

Since I am not near you, I cannot offer you a listen [being in AZ]. PM me if you want. I think I know someone in AZ that has an Upgrade Company machine.

No matter what - demo if at all possible, and against some sort of reference. All of this is personal preference regardless of what anyone says. There are NO FACTS about it...even with me. It is all personal opinion. Keep that in mind and you won't have delusions of grandeur that lead to utter disappointment.

Your two posts help! I will probably still buy the player and sell which one we like least. The tube output stage was on my mind. I guess we will have to a/b the two. Let me know any other feedback. Thanks!

Thanks for you help! I have a problem spending 6 or 5 grand for a cdp and then having to upgrade it. Do you know what they do with the upgrade? Thanks again!

The Upgrade Co does mods to the Theta Compli as well. Anyone heard a modified Compli and care to compare to the Esoteric?

I can't comment on the Compli, but I know Schulte really likes the Theta DACs, especially some of the earlier ones over the newer ones. Like the Gen III and pro basic I think.

Hi;
I have a close friend who owns a b&m store and sells Arcam. Despite that I ended up with the DV-60. Not sure why except that I like to have a player that has "more advanced" siblings on the off chance that some of their genetics made it into my player.
I changed from a PMDT and am very pleased. While the drawer is not up to the PMDT level of quality the transport and resulting audio/video quality and options get the job done well for a single device. I am not saying it is the best available at any price, just that it is quite good and I am hearing new information on old disks.
I am still within 100 hours so final conclusions can't be drawn yet but I do have some feelings about that review I read...
To spice up the system a bit I added the G25u and I can't tell you how much I enjoy what it does to stereo sound! I heard it demoed at CES and am pleased that I have a similar reaction.
At any rate, Arcam is also a great option so you can't go wrong either way.
Good luck!
BP

Hi Bulldogger,

I have the SACD XA777ES in my system with Classe pre/power amp and B&W 802.
I came to listen to this set at a HiFi store and ended up getting the exact same config in the end. I tried to dumb down initially to ROTEL, but hurt my ears in the process (which lasted a mere 35seconds tops). I find the Sony very crisp, detail rich, enveloping and built like a house.
The 9000 is not much different. Can you tell me what you specifically disliked and what you found in the DV60 that makes up for that?

What makes the G25 such a praised object here? Is the DV60 not doing a good job at it? Would the sound improve as well by linking it to my Sony? I like High End...but sometimes it seems to get a little silly... getting a 6k cd player, then adding another box to it. Then why not "just" get seperates altogether? Spinner + DAC?

Cheers,
Dodo