Don't dump your CRT RPTV! - Page 361

Come on ship it to cali!!! (joke)

That's the one down side to these beasts - they're just so tough to transport sometimes. We've got a big ol' van, and the 51" class is about the largest we can move in one piece without a trailer; we actually had to turn down an older Mitsubishi 55" widescreen HD unit last January (the typical "not powering on" convergence IC and possible other small components fix) because there just wasn't any way to put it in the van no matter how you tip it, even if you took the middle row seats out.

- 2B

No, actually I don't want your old one. The idea is to get rid of the RPTV, not to swap one for another!

Hmm....let me talk to my wife. Our bedroom might be able to house it and component is just fine by me.

Actually between weight and dimensions this guy isn't gonna make it up the three floors to our apartment

This is really sad. My TV, which cost $6300 and was top of the line in 2001, has literally no value even though it is in perfect working order. I am going to have to pay to have it hauled away and dumped.

Oh, well. I just got rid of my LP turntable and vinyl records, too. Obsolescence happens. Anybody want a Canon A-1 35mm film SLR with 3 lenses and a flash? Didn't think so, that's next to go.

I'll take that camera off your hands!

If that Pioneer had been a 64" or so I most definitely would have taken it. I've got a 53" Panasonic and want a much larger screen which is why I've been looking on CL for a 65", brand not necessarily important but I'm leaning towards Mitsubishi. Anyone here own a Toshiba 65HC15? There is one currently for sale on CL. I know that Mitsubishi's implementation of HDMI to CRT RPTV isn't well done. This Toshiba has HDMI. Does Toshiba in general have the same issues as Mitsubishi wrt HDMI?

I guess it's a buyers/CraigListers market at this point. The HD television market is going the way of the smartphone - buy nice expensive hardware on a contract and find that it is worthless a few years later even if a used one off contract was $500 close to launch. In the smartphone world, they're moving too fast for their own good, and "it's time for a new one" after a two year contract. I suppose the difference is that you can more easily transport a smartphone, but you can see where it is similar.

- 2B

lol, I know I have a long way to go with my calibration(my first on any tv) and I don't have a higher end set like a lot of you as I just bought this RCA W52D19 for $100 to mess around with(It's in almost mint condition).

Here is my gamma after the first part of doing greyscale. Should I even bother to improve it? Looks like a 2.24 average.

I would say that you should try to get it flatter. If yo show all three primaries on the graph how do they look? That is what you should shoot for to having them closer together and flatter even if you have to go a little dimmer or a little brighter (above or below 2.2).

Here is an example. I believe this one if from after Bob performed his magic on my Hitachi.

They're all pretty good except blue has a slight bump. It's an RCA so it has limited amount I can do(No CMS, R/G Cutoff, etc). I will check messing with it(that was the result of 30 minutes of work tbh). Plan on going full on this weekend when the kids leave.

Since the beginning of TV, there has NEVER been a good resale market for used TVs and 11 year old TVs have always been almost no value. The original price has never made a difference 11 years down the road. For most of the history of TV 11 years is at the end of the average life of TVs (yes some last 15 - 20 years but most do not).

It's funny how different people value things in a different way. The way I look at it I was perfectly happy to pay $500 for my 65813, given that it has a great picture, that there aren't that many out there, that it has 9 inch tubes, and that it was babied by its former owner.

If you value things on the basis of general awareness, rather than the special characteristics of an object, then you may tend to undervalue something.

Just my two cents.

Woot woot... My resistors showed up today! Looks like my weekend is going to be Awesome!

In a lot of ways, the shift away from CRT to fixed pixel is very similar to what is going on to my industry, that of motion pictures.

Digital cameras have completely taken over as the primary method of capture, and it had nothing to do with being better than film. It didn't even have to do with cost, though that was what was being promoted. Fact of the matter is, it had to do with a loophole in the actor's contract and by switching to digital, shows could avoid shutdown when the actors were threatening strike. However, once the genie was out of the bottle, well, let's just say the camera rental houses have an absolute ton of film cameras just sitting, gathering dust.

The amazing part of that is, some of those film cameras had put in over 30 years of work and to this day can still function perfectly. The only thing that changed was film emulsions. Conversely, the digital cameras we were using 5 years ago wouldn't be touched by even low budget projects.

Similarly, 10-15 year old RPTVs still can look great today, while fixed pixels from the same time frame, even 5 years ago, have all sorts of problems. The new stuff, the OLED and 4K sets, the Elites, these are all now capable of looking near to or as good as CRT, and once you're at that point, well, tech wins. It's a bummer, and we can hold on to nostalgia, but there you are. I embrace working on film shows, but I'm no longer bitching and moaning when on a digital one.

I also had a cold hard reality call relating to the value of things. My Pioneer Elite receiver and DVD player both took dumps recently. I purchased these along with my Pioneer 510 over 11 years ago. The receiver cost me $900, the DVD something like $600 at that time. I saw my DVD player on eBay 2 days ago for $35. I was originally thinking of fixing it, now I'm resigned to just dumping it in the trash. I'm gonna run my TV into the ground, but I'm not gonna dump another penny into it. I'm saving those for whatever is the 'new' 2 years from now.

Based on recent sets I've seen, it would have to be a very large OLED to induce me to give up my Mits.

I need to do a service level convergence on one of these for a friend. The links I have found for the service level convergence are no longer valid. Does anyone know where I can still find the info?

Thanks!

I was able to nearly reduce my overscan on my Pioneer TO ALMOST 0 through the service menu following the directions in the service manual. However BOB is correct as you can get some bending on the edges due to
taking the adjustment to its near limits. Believe there is a mod of some sort discussed here that brings the guns closer to the screen allowing one to back off the adjustments in the service menu eliminating the bending along the edges.

I found a happy medium on mine. Only see the bending on dish menu, otherwise picture is great.

My experience has been that you can't go below 4% just by readjusting DCAM before having major feathering. If the Shimming OP is performed you can do 2% or so with no major feathering.

If you move the grid regardless of the OP performed there will be massive geometry adjustments. If things are to be done correctly, this is a major issue, if you just want to reduce oversacn by moving the DCAM grids and no attention to geometry is kept then the this OP would be missing a major component. (keeping geometry correct)

My center channel speaker is not magnetically shielded. If I get distortion, will the picture restore 100 % when I remove the speaker?

On a RPTV you shouldn't need to worry about the center being shielded or not, only on the Tube type CRT and that's it.