Don't dump your CRT RPTV! - Page 264

When your computer messes up, how the heck do you fix it?

I made it as far as the Mississippi, and just couldn't beat any further. So, once again, I'll take the opportunity here:
Thanks for your phone consults, your recommendations of parts suppliers, and your encouragement over these past few years. The results (on the Hitachi threads) speak for themselves.
Keep up the good work.
Michael

Probably pretty much the same way. Certain steps can be taken by people with minimal knowledge and experience, some need to be handed over to the pros, and some fall in between (I don't mind reseating ram chips; some people aren't comfortable opening up the box). I raised my CRT array 2 inches, which is NOT for the faint of heart. I've also ruined a GPS by taking it apart too often, so I've gotten in over my head, too.
Most of us have a series of steps to follow for computer problems (just this morning I used my mac's single user mode to fix the startup disc after the latest system update); similar steps can be learned for maintaining a CRT.

What makes you think that crapping all over this thread is beneficial? Mr. Bob has been more than helpful to countless members on AVS for more years than I care to count. What have YOU done for us lately??? Are you just bored w/all the snow or do you have something of importance to share w/the Forum? I think not. Quit trolling the Forums in search of opportunities to spoil threads w/your BS.

Mr. Bob, please try to ignore these trolls, and knowthat there are many many people on here that actually appreciate all that you do.

i have a toshiba 65" CRT that has been ISF'd in the past and is up for a cleaning and a tune up. The guy I am talking to about doing the work (the previous guy no longer does calibrations) has suggested that in addition to cleaning, greyscale, focusing and convergence, I change the screen for a da-lite or stewart screen (about $400) and add a DVDO Edge processor ( $400). We watch mainly hd satellite and BR DVD. Does any one have any experience with either suggestion or an opinion on the value of the upgrades?

I didn't mean it like that. Say you have "Super Spyware Megasearch" popping up constantly and bothering you. How do you get rid of this? Well, you google it and 99.9999% of the time you can find removal instructions that even a novice can complete.

Now, say you have a pincushion problem on your old crt. It might take you 3 hours just to find out how to enter the service menu. Or of course you can call somebody on the phone for an undisclosed price and maybe get it fixed that way.

I don't personally have a problem with what Mr. Bob is doing, just pointing out that this is the Information Age and the new generations aren't going to put up with it. As a result, crt's are going bye-bye.

Well, since it doesn't seem that way to the folks that matter at AVS, what is considered "appropriate" isn't up to you to decide.

The info and support in this thread has helped thousands of people keep their TVs going just a bit longer. This is huge and VERY "appropriate" in todays society. It is also let known that should anyone want to take it further, it will cost. People ask all the time so it is wise and keeps clutter to a minimum on the board when all people want is to find out how much for Bob to do it.

Valuable info here with years of experience. Nothing is "magical" in a cleaning and you are the only one to lnfer it is. These sets were designed to last 10+ years and the reason the cost was so high. New sets have a shorter life expectancy and therefore cost less.


Absolutely not in my opinion. What model Tosh? I have a 51H83. Just remove the glare screen and the picture will 'pop' like you won't believe. As much as I like CRT, I would in no way put $800+ into one (Sorry Bob!) and I suggest you do not either. You can clean it yourself and tweek the settings easily enough as all the instructions are in this thread.

So you want to spend 800 dollars + calibration labor + cleaning labor on an old crt.


IMO, you are nuts. You can get true 1080p and proper refresh rates that eliminate 3:2 pulldown in a 65 inch television for that price. Why would you spend it on a set that might blow a transistor the day after all this work is done?

I started following this thread over 3 years ago, I did not know who this Mr. Bob guy was then, but read and read and read, and most of what is here made lots of sense for my set and the technology itself. I like to experiment and better all my electronics and gadgets if possible, and I can say that more than in one instance the results haven't been all that desirable, nevertheless I keep messing with things. I've done lots of different things to my set, and I don't think I'm done yet, and mainly due to Mr. Bob.

Last year I had the chance of meeting Bob, I was really skeptical whether on not he could improve my set since I've done everything I could do to it myself, but I had him work on my tv. I can categorically say that the PQ improve, not only visually but I have the measurements that proves it.

I have the upmost respect of Mr. Robert Jones as a professional in his field and after meeting Bob, I consider Bob a friend.

And I can add a THANK YOU Bob for sharing your knowledge.

I don't want to call anyone anything....

I've said it before... if all you want to do is watch TV, or for that matter BIG tv, no matter what you get, and you could probably get a tv cheaper than that.

If you want videophile caliber picture, unless you go hi-end set, it will not compare to a CRT or RPCRT or FPCRT. And I'm not trying to change anyones mind, it's the facts.

Why would it take "3 hours just to find out how to enter the service menu" when "99.9999% of the time" you can get the other information? It's the same type of search. And part of the learning curve (either way) for those interested in such things.

Bob has actually mentioned his fees for phone consults and other services several times, and encourages anyone curious about such things to call him.

"New generations" are putting up with seriously compressed mp3 files so they can walk around with 800 hours of music and seriously compressed video files so they can stream the latest episode of whatever. "Good enough" has become the new mantra, and the new sets are fine for those people. They're just not "good enough" for many of us here. Some day I expect to replace my RPCRT, but no time soon.

Michael

Well as they say everything in life isn't free ?

look, I'm not saying he can't fix a tv...or isn't a pro. I'm sure he is.

What i'm saying is that starting an advertising thread is just not cool.

And videophiles might appreciate very accurate primaries of a THX panasonic plasma...or the ruler flat greyscale of the same. Or perhaps perfect geometry and convergence a plasma affords. Also the proper refresh rates for film based video only available on newer technology.

Crt is very good...but I would be hard pressed to say that it is better than a current plasma. At least in many regards, it's quite simply not better. In some regards it is better...but in no way is it the defacto best display technology. Ansi contrast is way, way higher on plasma's, and on/off cr is compromised on rp crt as it is (internal reflections anybody?).

I suppose being subjected to infomercials is just the american way...and I should have said nothing at all. Some may get value from my 2 cents here too...

Well i wish i could afford to fly Mr. Bob to ontario Canada to Tune up my Elite 710, i have taken out adds here in my area Peterbourgh and have yet to get a response. It just good to know that there are still someone that works on these great TV's. Not all of us canadians only think Mr. Bob's out to make a buck off this thread, i would not even think of trying to do this by myself. I have asked if any other canadian members here that know someone that tunes these tv's and havent got any response either so my only hope so far is to save some money or win a lottery to fly Mr. Bob in. I just got a 710 for parts as a beer bottle got thrown through the screen as the owner of the tv was caught having affair with the guy that threw the beer bottle wife. everything powers up ok it just the screen and mirror that got smashed. I also have a chance to get a Pioneer elite 100 for $250.

Its funny how people are willing to say anything ...

I've chosen to live in America, "my country"... people die to be able to come here... Let's just leave it at that... because respect to others is the AMERICAN WAY!

Back to the regular infomercial RPCRT programing ...

Basic rule for RPCRT keep your lenses and mirror clean, you can always do it yourself but if you are not sure, get a professional to assist you.

if your elite 710 has a good amount of hours on it, there will be no magic act that will revive it... but if it doesn't, then it could be nice.

The elite pro 100 is not even true 16:9 (16:10)...it's not worth 250. I doubt if it even does HD, and if it does, there would be black bars top and bottom anyhow.

If he wasn't just looking to make a buck, he could share some information without requiring money to do so...otherwise, it would seem he's just looking to make a buck.

But, if you're scared to clean a mirror and some lenses and would consider flying someone in to do so...then he would be your guy, no question about that.

Looking into purchasing a Hitachi 51F59 on Craiglist with the "flashing vertical lines" on the lower 1/3 or so of the screen. I've seen it also called "Line Pairing" on Fixya. Apparantly I might need a $36 Shipped Hitachi X480315 repair kit (see this thread for the full details and links to sites that I found).

I was wondering what the value on this television is. It looked like a good deal on Craiglist, but I'm not sure because I don't really have any "price value benchmark" (eBay, Craiglist, etc.), so I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts as to the value of that.

Thanks.

- 2 Bunny

And it took you 4.5 years after the fact to become outraged enough to complain?

Might I suggest paxil ... or maybe some zoloft ...

You are seriously going to pay for a crt on CL that doesn't even work?


I wouldn't pay for one that did work, people give these away all the time.


Step 1. Find a tv on CL, preferably somebody who upgraded to a flat panel and has it mounted on his wall(space is key)
Step 2. Wait 3 weeks
Step 3. Tell him you will remove that massive hunk of electronics and particle board for free
Step 4. Win !!

I mentioned a price? Remind me again? I looked through the only two threads I've mentioned it on, and couldn't find what price I listed.


Really? Great! I'll see what the rest family thinks about that.

- 2 Bunny

You know what I drink... you're ON!!!

So you're saying the wisest decision would be to take Mr. "Verge2"'s advice and shoot for a "Zero"?

- 2 Bunny

Does anyone know how to adjust the convergence on a phillips 50P8341A?
it's not in the user menu.

Thanks