Don't dump your CRT RPTV! - Page 307

Can you describe the difference between the before and after?

Did you order from their worldwide website?

Thanks

Heh. Definitely worth the chuckle .


Are those mp4 files 1920x1080 or 1280x720? Do they have MKV versions, because I'm positive that my machine cannot under any circumstance play 1920x1080 video, and I haven't had much success with mp4 files in the past (although I could probably convert it).


Good call. I was actually posting in reply to that other fellow's burn in. Our set has a small station logo burned in the corner, but I think we can live with that for now.

- 2 Bunny

Pick the version you need. The download is an iso file that burns an AVCHD disc that plays in most BDPs. I think there's a compatability chart further in the thread.
I have an old version for my HDP, but, for some reason, they've removed that link.

Ordered direct from the HD Fury website. They shipped within the week via DHL.

As a first glance, images are more detailed and well defined....but, until I get the color dialed in, I will reserve further comment.

Thanks! Good luck with it.

Moome has an external box (EXT-FULLHD v3 3D) that is either available or pending, that supplies two 1.4 ports and supports 3D.

With this box you could output to either component or RGBVH.

Given that I have RGBVH, that might be the way to go for me, but as I posted earlier some sources don't play well with RGBVH. I hope the Moome box is able to provide proper picture display and centering.

I am seeing intermittent noise that looks like small groups of scan lines get temporarily misaligned by a few millimeters. It is happening in all of the guns at the same time, and in different parts of the screen. I suspect a horizonal synch problem. The noise diminishes after the set warms up for 15 minutes or so, but it never dissappears entirely.

Any thoughts on how I can fix this?

If it does 3D does it output 720P only or will it do 1080i too?

Upon careful reading it looks like the Moome will not support 3D on our sets, but the VIP unit might.

But the Moome looks good for what it will do...e.g. 1.4.

Now, if I do convergence in the service menu, is there any learning curve or anything I should know or tips or a guide I should read before "jumping in", or is it all straightforward based on what is in the service guide?


I don't have a BlueRay Disc player or drive actually. I use an original Xbox softmodded with the excellent media center software, XBMC (XBMC4XBOX.org - also available for Windows, Linux, Macintosh Operating System, and more on the 0ld XBMC site, XBMC.org if you don't own an original Xbox). The Xbox is slightly limited in what it can play (inside is a 733Mhz Pentium 3 and 64MB of RAM on a system who hasn't been specially upgraded which still maxes out with 1.3Ghz and 128MB of RAM).

I did however take a look at the file last week (some helpful patterns in there) and found a picture file that looked really helpful for convergence (the one with the red, green, and blue boxes all around). I'll give that one a try and put it up (I think the Xbox hardware can display the 1920X1080 image files just fine at 1080i) when I have a look at the service menu convergence.

If you're ever looking for a low cost HD media center device and don't have/can't get/can't afford a "Home theater computer", the original Xbox still has a lot of life left in it if you can mod it and put a copy of XBMC on it. The best part is that the Xbox can be purchased for a low 40-50 dollar retail pricetag (used) plus the small cost of softmodding or chipping it. Many times you can get them for less even. The PS2, Dreamcast, and GameCube are not capable HD media centers like the original Xbox is. There's some stuff that XBMC can do that you can't even do on Xbox 360. It's really amazing how they still build XBMC for that ten year old machine (nobody was even thinking about HDTV or high resolution media files back then. Nobody even had the bandwidth to download anything bigger than a few megabytes).

Now really is the time for those stuck with standard def sets to upgrade without the excuse of cost. The helpful users here on AVS and over at XBMC4XBOX.org have independently kept older technologies going to bring people like us excellent quality HD entertainment at a fraction of the cost of buying an "off the store shelf" media center (television and media center). The economy may be in the dumper right now, but we're still able to do more than ever for less than ever with the astronomical reduction of the cost of those two essential HD media center items.

- 2 Bunny

Nothing is straightforward in service mode. Remind us which TV you have. For most of these old RPTV's there is no "service menu". That would be too easy. There is "service mode" for which a service manual is absolutely required. The assumption is that anyone entering service mode is a trained technician. Do not jump into the water before you know how deep it is.

Excellent call. It is a 2002ish WS-48311, a V20C model. The book says "Menu 2259" is the code to get into the "special" convergence settings.

- 2 Bunny

Hey there, 2Bunny. Quiet on the forum these last few days.

Howsbyyou?

Ok I cleaned this area underneath the lenses the other day just because those haven't been cleaned ever and the TV was manufactured in 2007. It didn't seem like there was a lot of dust but oh well I wouldn't know without taking it apart anyway.




Regarding scheimpflug, I just add washers underneath those screws that hold each Red & Blue lenses pointing out towards the edges? Do I need to add some to the green one just to raise it a little to or leave it alone? Do I need to redo geometry?

Also regarding geometry. I was playing around with DVE and when I brought up Red and Blue geometry some lines near the corners are wavy and not straight at all but when I do convergence they're right on the white lines. Should I go in and redo them in the service menu convergence to the Red & Blue Geometry figures?

Glad you're back, Bob.

So in the final analysis, there is no advantage in routing through rgbhv rather than component as far as picture quality is concerned?

The Moome box you've requested will be dedicated, then, to HDMI component only? When will you be receiving yours? This unit will then, it seems, duplicate what the Fury does (without the rgbhv option), with the addition of being HDMI 1.4 compatible.

Hope you're doing well.

These are peculiarly tough times for many, so I hope that good things are on the horizon for you.

One of the things that brings a smile to my face is the great picture on my
Mits. Lots of depth to the picture. In contrast, the picture on LCDs look three dimensional and flat at the same time, if that makes sense.

So the Moome box is in the indefinite future.

I was on a short vacation for my grandparents. I think they really had a good time (I did too ).


So you would not recommend trying to even do the advanced convergence with my own pattern outside of a telephone consultation?

- 2 Bunny

Yeah I did that and there was barely any dust specs under each lens.



That's what I meant. Instead of each gun being kinda like | | | you would make them slightly \\ | / right? Of course the angle wouldn't be that much but just as an illustration.



I think I need to get a pic of what I mean here. In the Service Menu Convergence with AVS's convergence pattern up in the background or User Convergence the blue and red match up with the white lines as best as I can get them. When I just bring up the Red Geometry Pattern or Blue one in DVE which just has solid red or blue lines some of them near the edges are wavy and obviously should stick out of the white lines in the Convergence menu's but don't.

I don't have time to take some pics tonight. I'll show some tomorrow.

What convergence menu option is safe for a tyro like me? I don't want to do anything that will have a lasting (negative) impact. I have not attempted to do even the simplest convergence on my own..and the picture has not seemed to need it. I'm sure, though, that it probably wouldn't hurt to do a simple convergence.

I know this isn't really the place for it, but you guys seem to know a lot about everything here, so I had some QAM tuner questions...

1. I saw a KWorld PlusTV 1680ex on eBay and wasn't sure exactly if that is a QAM256 tuner and if it can output 1080i through its VGA port (I'd buy or make a VGA to RGBHV breakout cable for it).

2. I also saw an LG LST-4600A on eBay and it's a bit different from most "boxes" in that it was supposed to be a hotel room application. It doesn't have a fancy screen or buttons on the front, but it has VGA, component, and HDMi out on the back (all of which can output in HD) and an "Antenna/Cable" in. According to a thread I read on here from a while back, it has a QAM tuner, but I need to know if it is a QAM256 tuner, and if I need additional Infrared receivers and what kind of remote I would need to get one of these working.

3. I was also wondering if anyone knew anything about remotes or remote codes for a CELabs QAM tuner. I saw one working but without the remote, so that doesn't help much.

4. I'm seeing mixed messages on the Samsung SIR-T451. The instructions say that only the obsolete 8VSB cable standard is compatible, but websites and reviews I've read say it is QAM capable. Is it? And if so, is it for sure able to tune QAM256?

5. Does the Motorola DCH3416b support QAM256 ClearQAM?


That's kind of what I was wondering too. All I wanted was to try a little convergence with my own pattern.

- 2 Bunny

There's a couple of guys in the HDTV Technical section (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1349864) fighting with the 4600A. A bunch of them may have hit the market, which makes sense given their application.