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post #121 of 489
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

And somehow you want to use the phrase "usual talking points" in a dismissive way. Do you think downgrading the amp is a minor thing? Sure seems like it. Trying to label my criciticsm by making it somehow something you think you know about my posts doesn't change the facts of the thing. Nice try. We already know how you feel about appearances of your A/V equipment.

As expected, I knew you couldn't stray far from your talking points to support your claim about how much the 1016 is inferior to the 1015. Is MOS FET as much of a downgrade as you lead others to believe? Hmmm...haven't gotten that from any links posted in AVS. I know, I just opened the door for you to post another comment about flight manuals...but then again, that's the only way you know how to debate: shooting off topic and just saying everyone is wrong. Convenient.

This has quickly become comical and has littered this thread with useless info for other users who are genuinely looking for info on the 1016...not one user's claim about how everyone but himself is wrong.

Look Jim, do everyone a favor and take your personal issues with other users to Personal Messages. I know you won't get the satisfaction of having your pointless posts read by others, but if you were truly looking out for those trying to discuss the 1016, you'd hit that PM button more.
post #122 of 489
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

Every forum's gotta have a Jim.


Well somebody has to be willing to stick to the facts of the matter despite all the personal labeling and reading into posts. Glad I can be there for you Mr. Navy.


Jim

Not this one. Keep up the constant string of jabs and you might just find this forum lacking a certain "Jim".

Please continue this through PM's people, or not at all.

Thanks,

Kyser
post #123 of 489
Let's hope we're finally back on topic everyone.

Other interesting 1016 features:

- 110w-x-7 rated at .08 THD. Same as most of Onkyo's boxes, and even HK (at .07 THD). 1015 is rated to .2 THD: not as clean. Definite improvement.
- When watching a movie in 5.1, or if the signal is just not using the rear surrounds (as in a 7.1 setup), the 1016 automatically adjusts any unused power and adds them to the front speakers.
- To answer another user's post, yes, the included remote is a full-featured, LCD learning remote.
- To some, weight (pounds) matters in their receiver purchasing decision. The 1016 weighs more than the already beasty 1015.
post #124 of 489
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by flyNAVY View Post

- To some, weight (pounds) matters in their receiver purchasing decision. The 1016 weighs more than the already beasty 1015.


Actually, the 1016 weighs 33 lbs and the 1015 weighs in at 34 lbs. The 35.3 lbs posted on the website is incorrect. Check the 1016 manual.
post #125 of 489
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Originally Posted by fanofmusic View Post

Actually, the 1016 weighs 33 lbs and the 1015 weighs in at 34 lbs. The 35.3 lbs posted on the website is incorrect. Check the 1016 manual.

If the manual is correct, then the website, and their product brochure (downloadable from their site) are both incorrect. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
post #126 of 489
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by flyNAVY View Post

Let's hope we're finally back on topic everyone.

Other interesting 1016 features:

- 110w-x-7 rated at .08 THD. Same as most of Onkyo's boxes, and even HK (at .07 THD). 1015 is rated to .2 THD: not as clean. Definite improvement.


I'd say the power ratings between the two are probably identical. The 1015 is spec'd the same as the VSX-52TX (110 watts/c at 0.09% THD). They (Pioneer) published the 120 watts at a higher %THD also. The primary difference between the two is more in the amplifier section where there was a change from MOSFETs to Bipolar transistors. The question is whether or not that will affect sound quality. The MOSFETs are generally considered to be a better transistor and may be what gives the Pioneer receivers using them that claimed "warm" sound. That is open to debate. Although at this price level it is probably irrelevant.
post #127 of 489
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Originally Posted by ericrwalker View Post

I still want to know if the vsx-80txv is better than the vsx-1016txv. I am going to buy one, just not sure if one is better than the other.

From looking at the specs and the manual, the only difference I can see is that the VSX-80txv has a 2 year warranty and the Elite name printed on the front. It appears Pioneer is trying to hide the fact that they may be exactly the same, as the Elite model lists 2nd zone or A/B speaker setups in the specifications on the website while the VSX-1016TXV does not, even though it is capable of handling this as well. Otherwise power is the same, looks are the same, connections are the same... hard to justify $150 just for 1 year extra warranty.
post #128 of 489
the current topic for the past few pages was running an hdmi and a component cable from receiver. I'm wondering if you must run a composite cable for the on the on-screen menus. I have a 1014 and the menus do not appear on the component outputs, which is a real pain.

Adam
post #129 of 489
That's what I am seeing basically so far. The thing is I think i can get the 80 for about $500, and I am ready to buy. I wonder how much I can get the 1016 for, hopefully around $400.

I found the 1015 for $376.


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Originally Posted by BassTek View Post

From looking at the specs and the manual, the only difference I can see is that the VSX-80txv has a 2 year warranty and the Elite name printed on the front. It appears Pioneer is trying to hide the fact that they may be exactly the same, as the Elite model lists 2nd zone or A/B speaker setups in the specifications on the website while the VSX-1016TXV does not, even though it is capable of handling this as well. Otherwise power is the same, looks are the same, connections are the same... hard to justify $150 just for 1 year extra warranty.
post #130 of 489
Has anyone done a comparison between the 1015 and 1016 to see how they differ sound-wise?
post #131 of 489
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Originally Posted by ericrwalker View Post

That's what I am seeing basically so far. The thing is I think i can get the 80 for about $500, and I am ready to buy. I wonder how much I can get the 1016 for, hopefully around $400.

I found the 1015 for $376.

Was the $376 1015 from a certified Pioneer seller?
post #132 of 489
probably not. www.ecost.com


but does it matter?

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Originally Posted by flyNAVY View Post

Was the $376 1015 from a certified Pioneer seller?
post #133 of 489
I did notice that ecost had it for that low but I've read quite a bit of negative reviews on the site lately. As far as getting from a certified Pio retailer, you may run into problems if you ever need warranty support.
post #134 of 489
I have bought quite a few things from ecost in the past and I have nothing bad to say about them yet.

As for the 1016 it's not being sold anywhere except the pioneer website at this time, right?
post #135 of 489
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Originally Posted by ericrwalker View Post

I have bought quite a few things from ecost in the past and I have nothing bad to say about them yet.

As for the 1016 it's not being sold anywhere except the pioneer website at this time, right?

It's available in Canada at 2001 Audio Video. I just saw one yesterday.
post #136 of 489
Another additional feature to the 1016 is the 7.1 analog inputs compared to the 5.1 of the 1015
post #137 of 489
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Originally Posted by atagert View Post

I'm wondering if you must run a composite cable for the on the on-screen menus. I have a 1014 and the menus do not appear on the component outputs, which is a real pain.

Adam

You can get GUI over component.
post #138 of 489
Not this one. Keep up the constant string of jabs and you might just find this forum lacking a certain "Jim".

Since you posted this here instead of a PM to me I'll reply here. This is quite a one sided suggestion sir. All of my posts contained sirs, Mr., quite civil in fact.

Thank you for the forum. Glad you all have a nice little group going.

Ta ta

Jim
post #139 of 489
ericrwalker, you can also get the 1016 from JR with free shipping. The spotting of a unit in Canada is the first I have heard so I guess it's shipping now. Check with the forum sponsors as well.
post #140 of 489
Jim, you are welcome to stay, just try to hold back a little. Also, posting 3 or more times in a row makes it seem like you are trying to take over the thread.

Carry on,

Kyser
post #141 of 489
I went to JR.com and it says MSRP is $650, but they are selling it for $499, and it also says it's a pre-order. Is that the site you are talking about?


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Originally Posted by flyNAVY View Post

ericrwalker, you can also get the 1016 from JR with free shipping. The spotting of a unit in Canada is the first I have heard so I guess it's shipping now. Check with the forum sponsors as well.
post #142 of 489
I just called J&R and they said they don't have it yet and don't have a projected date on it either.
post #143 of 489
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Originally Posted by ericrwalker View Post

probably not. www.ecost.com


but does it matter?


Availability: Call Us ----> Out of Stock?

Cheapest 1015 from pricegrabber is still $499
post #144 of 489
Well might be now. It showed in stock a couple of weeks ago when I was first looking to get one.

I am still debating grabbing the 1015, 1016 or the elite 80.

I want to it be under $500 after shipping.

The last one I bought was a 914 and I picked it up at barney's electronics in NJ. I don't remember the price of the top of my head but it was a lot cheaper than the MSRP.

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Originally Posted by bigpow View Post

Availability: Call Us ----> Out of Stock?

Cheapest 1015 from pricegrabber is still $499
post #145 of 489
Man I really don't like the style of the 1016. I have the 815 right now and I always loved the looks of the 1015 with the door. I got it as a gift so its fine but when I saw the 1016 thread I wondered if it brought in HDMI. It did, YES!!! Lets go take a look at this bad boy.....(opens Pioneer site)...mother @$#%ER!!!!!!!!

Oh well there is always the 17 one day. They should have waited a year for things to get cheaper. The 1015 was doing fine.
post #146 of 489
There is someone selling them on ebay right now http://cgi.*********/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

I haven't found them out anywhere...It doesn't look like a pre-order either. He shows 5 available. Not a bad price either...I am looking for something a little closer to $400 though....but still I want the 1016 for maybe $450 at the most.

EDIT : crap well it's item number 230012724111 on eGay
post #147 of 489
Worth mentioning in regards to buying from non-Pioneer authorized online dealers:

"The full manufacturer's warranty from Pioneer is only valid when the Pioneer VSX-1016TXV-K is purchased from an Internet Authorized Dealer."
post #148 of 489
They are out now. Did anyone buy one? I'd like to hear impressions.
post #149 of 489
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Originally Posted by atagert View Post

the current topic for the past few pages was running an hdmi and a component cable from receiver. I'm wondering if you must run a composite cable for the on the on-screen menus. I have a 1014 and the menus do not appear on the component outputs, which is a real pain.

Adam

Strange..

My 1014 will display the on screen menu from both the s-video and the component connections. never tried the composite though
post #150 of 489
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Originally Posted by flyNAVY View Post

Worth mentioning in regards to buying from non-Pioneer authorized online dealers:

"The full manufacturer's warranty from Pioneer is only valid when the Pioneer VSX-1016TXV-K is purchased from an Internet Authorized Dealer."



In almost 40 years of buying new audio gear not once have I had to worry about warranty. I mean upgrading regularly too. . . I know its coming but so far so good. . . If the price is good enough I'll take that gamble. . .

That said however I do try to stay with established authorized dealers. I've bought mostly from the same dealer for over 20 years now and he gives me a deal just about as good as it gets. It does pay to stay loyal. . . If he can't make the deal on what I'm buying (fair trade item) he will make it up on accessories or the next time. . .
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