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post #211 of 4623
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Originally Posted by amirm
I know everyone wants to know this answer :). But I don't have permission to say. There were some leaks on this though a while back (how is this for an obscure hint :))...
OK, how about this?
What is the first Warner BD title you are really interested in seeing? ;)
post #212 of 4623
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Originally Posted by cal87
OK, how about this?
What is the first Warner BD title you are really interested in seeing? ;)
Clever :). Actually, I am interested in all of them, regardless of which codec they use. To the extent some are MPEG-2, obviously a comparison against same VC-1 disc would be very interesting. Even if they use VC-1 but data rate is different, I would want to see the difference there. And if they are the same, then I would look to see if the extras, audio and interactivity stuff is the same or not. Either way, I am just as anxious as you all are.
post #213 of 4623
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Originally Posted by efralope
Do any insiders know if Weinstein/Genius are still in the HD DVD camp?

Also, does anybody have any information on these 4 Brentwood HD DVD titles released this past Tuesday (apparantly they are cheap to produce as they are selling them for $6.98). Specifically, are these HD DVD 15's of of the red-laser variety?:

Classical Touch: Beethoven - Famous Symphonies
Classical Touch: Chopin - Nocturnes Romantic Piano
Classical Touch: Mozart - Symphonies Operas
Classical Touch: Tchaikovsky - Sleeping Beauty

source:
http://entertainment.circuitcity.com...ink=ref&bMore=
I don't really know. I just ordered them though and report back when I get them.
post #214 of 4623
I'm borderline-100% certain that those BCI titles were mislabeled and that they're CDs.

All four titles are listed on BCI's site as being on CD only, the prices and release dates are the same for the supposed HD DVDs as they are on CD, and the UPC codes for the HD DVDs on DVD Pacific's website are a perfect match for the CDs on BCI's site.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it doesn't look like there are any $6.98 HD DVDs on the horizon.
post #215 of 4623
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
I'm borderline-100% certain that those BCI titles were mislabeled and that they're CDs.

All four titles are listed on BCI's site as being on CD only, the prices and release dates are the same for the supposed HD DVDs as they are on CD, and the UPC codes for the HD DVDs on DVD Pacific's website are a perfect match for the CDs on BCI's site.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it doesn't look like there are any $6.98 HD DVDs on the horizon.
oh my, and here I was getting all excited for budget musical content...

I haven't seen them listed as CD's.

circuitcity.com, hidefdvd.com, dvdpacific.com, and barnesandnoble.com carry them under their movies section of HD DVD

lookes like this mistake ran a bit too far. Grubet and I have listed them in our compiled release dates (with so many credible retailers listing them it didn't concern me that much)...

thanks for your help and sorry to sidetrack discussion


On that note, can any insiders give a timeframe for when we should start seeing HD DVD 4.5's and 9's?
post #216 of 4623
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Originally Posted by efralope
I haven't seen them listed as CD's.
It doesn't help that the cover art says "High Definition Classics":

http://www.navarre.com/Admaterials/A...2-072-sRGB.jpg

I'd imagine that's the reason for the confusion.
post #217 of 4623
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Originally Posted by RobertR1
Amir,

Has VC1 work already started on LOTR and Matrix Trilogy? Any details are most welcomed :)

Thanks,
Robert.
Some info at this link: http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/news/...DVD_Charge/135
post #218 of 4623
Amirm, Congratulations on your new position! After mulling it over and monitoring the Xbox "360" AV thread about a possible future MS media/game player with internal HD DVD drive, I decided that if such a thing came out next February and had 1080p24 output via HDMI -- I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Kind of a reverse market penetration philosophy -- buy it for HD DVD playback but yet be able to try out the newer video games. I have not really played any games since Doom with my son ten years ago. I feel that I might be missing something with not trying Halo. Connected to the internet via ethernet, to a good sound system, a good display, able to do VOD etc., a few terabytes of storage for MMC video, no fuss, no muss single remote control, occasional gaming.....hmmm. Hey wasn't that one of Bill Gate's visions? I'd guess it would run WinCE to keep it simple and reliable ;)

Bob
post #219 of 4623
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Originally Posted by Grubert
amirm, I see Studio Canal ostensibly authorised Microsoft to disclose some specifics of their European HD DVD releases. Are you at a liberty to inform us on the frame rate used in authoring of said titles? If so, well, is it 50 or 60?

(note: not argumentative - people in America want T2 HD DVD ;) )
Ping, I'm also very interested to know the answer to this important question.

Dennis.
post #220 of 4623
Dennis, I am not aware of them giving us permission to talk. Is there a link to that somewhere else?
post #221 of 4623
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Originally Posted by amirm
Dennis, I am not aware of them giving us permission to talk. Is there a link to that somewhere else?
Not that I am aware. I was re-sending Grubert question. Hopefully he'll be able to provide some info.

I guess it's time to ping Grubert, ping :)

Dennis.
post #222 of 4623
The international HD-DVD release list is here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...ovies.aspx#all
post #223 of 4623
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Originally Posted by ckong
The international HD-DVD release list is here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...ovies.aspx#all
What about us Aussies, we are humans too :)

Dennis.
post #224 of 4623
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Originally Posted by dlb99
What about us Aussies, we are humans too :)

Dennis.
If you see right at the bottom of the list, the rest of the world is covered under "and many more!" :D
post #225 of 4623
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Originally Posted by efralope
Do any insiders know if Weinstein/Genius are still in the HD DVD camp?
Sorry I missed the first part of this. But yes, they are still firmly in HD DVD camp.
post #226 of 4623
I'd like to ask if the Xbox360 HD add-on will ship in the U.S only or will they ship worldwide before X-mas ?
Thanks
Will.
post #227 of 4623
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Originally Posted by rover2002
I'd like to ask if the Xbox360 HD add-on will ship in the U.S only or will they ship worldwide before X-mas ?
Thanks
Will.
Answered up further :). Just repeating, we have not decided the exact regions yet.
post #228 of 4623
Hi Amir. Could you please talk a litle about "managed-copy" ?

In the latest issue of (Widescreen review july 2006) You talk about "mandatory"copy,to HDD/server.
Your words in the article were :The first copy is mandatory in the format.But once the studios have given you one copy,it`s up to them to decide to sell you more copies.

It actualy sounds like HD-DVD/aacs has one free copy to a HDD,"built" into the system-spec,is this corect ?

J.P
post #229 of 4623
Hi J.P.

It is up to the studios to price that copy. My comment in that quote was that the first copy must be there. Not that it is free.

Studios have different prespective on cost of first copy. Some think it should be included in the price of the disc, others think they may charge more for it, and some may offer other extras as part of the offer. All in all, they are excited about the connection with their customers. But don't have enough data to have decided right this minute what the cost should be. Just like the price of the discs themselves, they will experiment and land at a point that is acceptable to most consumers. And of course, competition amongst them will also be a major force.
post #230 of 4623
Can I ask what hardware will be required other than the obvious HD-DVD or BD drive to play the new discs on a PC? Will existing PC's be able to play these movies or will people have to upgrade to HDCP compliant displays and graphics cards? How will it all work and will XP support it?

Thanks, great thread,

Ian.
post #231 of 4623
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Originally Posted by amirm
Instead, we are licensing our iHD implementation to existing DVD/BD/HD DVD player companies to include in their products.
At no charge, as you had indicated in previous discussions regarding relative costs of BD-J vs. iHD?

-Talk
post #232 of 4623
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Originally Posted by Ian_S
Can I ask what hardware will be required other than the obvious HD-DVD or BD drive to play the new discs on a PC? Will existing PC's be able to play these movies or will people have to upgrade to HDCP compliant displays and graphics cards? How will it all work and will XP support it?

Thanks, great thread,

Ian.
As you know, there are two HD DVD based laptops available and one for BD. The former two are from Acer (with an amazing 20+ inch LCD!) and Toshiba. And the latter of course from Sony. All of them rely on fair amount of accelleration in the GPU for AVC, and light to none for VC-1. They use dual-core CPUs. So far, VC-1 HD DVD playback seems fine for a single stream at least and MPEG-2 for BD.

So if laptops can do it, desktop machines that you buy now should be fine. But real horsepower will come next year when the GPUs take on a lot more of of the decode...

Trying to find the right component on your own though, is a bit risky. The HD DVD/BD players have special code for the above laptops currently. Until you see the equiv. desktop solutions, all bets are off as to whether they work or not.

I would think a lot more of these answers come to light in a few months...
post #233 of 4623
Amir or any other insider, do you know what the hold up is with COMBO 30/9?

cost, replication issues, yields? will it even get here before BD 50?

I just decided to go COMBO only for the time being (ordered Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, Dazed and Confused, and Land of the Dead) because of both convenience and value.
post #234 of 4623
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Originally Posted by efralope
Amir or any other insider, do you know what the hold up is with COMBO 30/9?

cost, replication issues, yields? will it even get here before BD 50?
Yes I do. It was a case of people who had DVD-18 production (not every replicator does) which this is based on this, didn't expect the demand all of a sudden for the hybrid HD DVD. So they started work to convert them to DVD-9/HD DVD-30 and we are pretty close to running with them. So moving forward, there are no barriers.

Quote:
I just decided to go COMBO only for the time being (ordered Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, Dazed and Confused, and Land of the Dead) because of both convenience and value.
Excellent! :) I personally love them and hope that their price premium goes away over time.
post #235 of 4623
Amir,
The price premium HAS to go away as far as I am concerned. If HD DVD really wants to see disc sales, the Hybrid format is the way to go...but when they street for $20 more than their regular DVD counterpart on the release date, there really isn't an incentive for the consumer who DOESN'T own a HD DVD player to pay a $20 premium for both versions. If there was a $3-5 premium, a consumer may decide to up sell himself with the intention of eventually buying a HD DVD player. This will sell more HD DVD discs and increase the likelihood of that consumer upgrading to HD DVD down the road because he already has, let say, 20+ HD DVD discs in his collection vs. 0 BD discs. Just my $.02.

Thanks for answering all of the questions though!
post #236 of 4623
Amir, in regard to studios, why do you think the studios have priced combo discs higher when you even you have said you hope the price premium goes away? It really needs to be addressed but can you comment on the thought process here.
post #237 of 4623
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Originally Posted by chinch
Amir, in regard to studios, why do you think the studios have priced combo discs higher when you even you have said you hope the price premium goes away? It really needs to be addressed but can you comment on the thought process here.
They did a study that showed consumers would pay $5 more for hybrid on top of regular price of HD DVDs.

My sense is that hybrid may be necessary to get over the price increase of HD over SD as opposed to secondary premium. Of course, there is a reason I work for a technology company rather than a studio :). They may know more about these things than I do.
post #238 of 4623
There are two polls with regards to the combo discs in the software forum. Based on the results the majority of people do not seem to like them.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=698978

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=686637

The question is would combos be successful if People had a choice? Simply not to buy them doesn't seem to be the right answer. We're all starved for new releases, and new film releases so far seem to come mostly in combo form.

I don't like them largely because of their expense but also, because the studios aren't taking advantage of the unique content feature advantages that HD has to offer and yet playing thes features up in their advertisements. I also think the price has the potential of hurting the market.
post #239 of 4623
amir,

what did that same study show re consumers' willingness to pay a premium for hd dvd over sd dvd? what was that premium? i presume the $5 premium for the combo disc is in addition to the premium over the hd dvd premium?

tia
post #240 of 4623
Sorry to bore everyone with more hybrid questions, hopefully Amir doesn't feel overloaded, but this is very interesting information.

For the last time (I promise!):

1. Is replication an issue in the US for TWIN discs? We haven't received them while Japan has, after what you told me about the 30/9 COMBO, my guess would be that either replicators can't do them at all, or were simply not ready for requests so quickly. This assumes that consumers would prefer both on one side rather than flippers and that the studios would follow through that way if it were possible.

2. Has there been any indication given to HD DVD insiders that studios may want to release both a regular and hybrid version of a movie, as the case seems to be currently that they will release either 15/9 COMBOS or 30 GB movies, but no 15 GB movies?


I apologize again if these questions bore others.

p.s. To Dave and Larry, how about we discuss the merits and our personal feelings regarding hybrids in the software forum instead, but leave questions about their status here, that way the thread can remain free of opinionated discussion?
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