Originally Posted by Talkstr8t
I agree the BD profiles haven't been the focus of a public education campaign, everything is "done". It's not as if we're still inventing what BD-Live is. When a player is released which fully supports the BD-Live profile it'll be advertised as such. Until you see a BD-Live logo on a player, you run the risk of it not supporting every possible feature of the format. There may be players released without that logo which can support it (i.e. through a future firmware update), but if you want absolute certainty then you should wait.
Again, features which are guaranteed to be in BD-Live which might not be (but could be) in BD-Video (Profile 1) include network support, PiP support, and enhanced local storage (for A/V streams).
Having reflected on this more....we're now only in Sept. and with only one BR player on the market. You say that everything is "done" which tells me the BD-Live is ready to go. So if BD-Live was going to be ready this early in the game, why didn't Sun goto Samsung and tell them to include the appropriate hardware into the machine so that it can later be firmware updated for full BD-Live interactivity. Why is Pioneer, who still doesn't not have a player out, going on record stating that even with an ethernet port their player will not be BD-Live compatiable. Are there much more demanding specs to be able to run BD-Live on a stand alone player? Are the CE's waiting for SOC's so they don't have to have beefy/expensive PC hardware in the player to be able to run BD-Live and other features properly?
If BD-Live was going to be "done" this early in the game, who decided and what prompted the 2 seperate specifications over 1 year apart? Surely, Sun was consulted on the timeline and hardware specs needed. At $1000+ for players, how much more expensive can it possibly be to add the appropriate hardware for full BD-J/BD-Live players?
I know that's a lot of questions but there has been a lot of spins and conflicting information about BD-J/BD-Live. For this whole time, it was simply assumed that having an ethernet port would be all you need since as you stated before all the player have the full Java System installed. Now with Pioneer making those comments, one can easily deduce that there are specific hardware requirments (mainly system power) needed to be able to run this spec. Something that was not even hinted at prior.