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post #1 of 61
Thread Starter 
A design feature we are trying to incorporate in a rear bar area is long strips of bulbs (6-8 ft) in a starburst pattern that would be on the bottom side of a semi-circular soffit over a counter and free standing bar in the rear of our entertainment room

Rows of regular old light bulb sockets and 25 watt clear appliance bulbs would look perfect BUT be just TOO hot for an interior application because this would require over 100 bulbs.

We've thought about rope lighting, I've thought about LED string lights

http://www.led.lightwavesconcept.com....php/cPath/213

ANY IDEAS, SUGGESTIONS or SOURCES come to mind??????
post #2 of 61
DE had introduced me to a series of low voltage lights called 'Clik Strip, made by Ardee. Can't seem to find the quote or the specifics, but will keep looking.

I think it would fit your requirement but was very expensive.

It's used primarly in commercial installations and is flexible to allow for mounting around curved surfaces.
post #3 of 61
Found the web site. Here is the URL to the Ardee product:

Ardee Clickstrip

And a pointer to the installation manuals:

ClickStrip Installation

--curtis
post #4 of 61
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the links.

I found these bulbs in LED.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/store...s/e27-w8-g.jpg

At $3.95 a bulb

Now I would need to figure our how to do a long set of sockets that would be simpler than mounting 100 porcelain sockets and wiring them all up.

Found this socket solution that comes in 10 or 40 ft lengths and can be cut to fit. Haven't got the price info yet.

http://www.displayit-info.com/christ.../lights/MQ.gif


I still would prefer a clear bulb though.
post #5 of 61
post #6 of 61
Thread Starter 
Thanks China

some more things to consider I see.
post #7 of 61
Thread Starter 
Anyone know the source of the lighting used in this poster box????

http://www.stargatecinema.com/NEW-Il...-pr-16321.html
post #8 of 61
I am resurrecting this thread.
Have any of you guys found any ideas for lights. I am working on a marquee as we speak. If I can come up with a decent option, I would consider the chase type bulbs you see on the face of marquees.
Why are these things so hard to find???
The best thing I have found so far are Christmas lights. But then, how do you mount them securely and uniformly. I think it would be tough to get them to mount straight so they didn't look tacky.


Craig
post #9 of 61
Thread Starter 
After a lot of searches and some puchases of various cords and bulbs that didn't work out here is what I think I'm going to be using.

I needed 50-100 lights and if you do the math 100 times anything is a lot of wattage so my first attempt was Christmas lights and they looked just like that, and then tried some LED christmas lights. The problem with the LED was the light color, too cool for my taste looked light cheap neon.

They have some great full sized LED bulbs and theaters are switching over, but to get the right color was going to run $13 or so a bulb. https://store.lsgc.com/G11-GLOBE-BUL...BASE-P5C0.aspx Found them cheaper($4), but not in the warm white color, bought a couple to test and hated the color of the light
http://www.superbrightleds.com/specs/e27-w8.htm

Then I looked into actual marquee sized lights that happen to be 11 watts. Then I figured that if I used those almost full sized bulbs I could probably get by with 50 on a dimmer so Then I looked at either mounting 50 ceramic bulb bases and wiring the sucker up. I thought about all that wire stripping and screwing and thought about an easier way. So I bought a 100ft 50 socket commercial grade light string. I've experimented with 1/2 inch MDF by drilling holes just larger than than the ouside of the socket. I think I can silicon glue the sockets in the holes and just push the wiring all over the place to take up the slack. but I'm not at that point quite yet. I'll be mounting the MDF panels to perimeter rails up in the rounded soffit I've created. Also thinking of what to cover the surface of the MDF with, Paint or smoke colored window film glued to the MDF.

Give me a week and I'll give you some feed back.

http://www.budgetlighting.com/store/...&ppinc=search2

http://www.budgetlighting.com/store/...&ppinc=search2
post #10 of 61
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Originally Posted by suffolk112000 View Post

I am resurrecting this thread.
Have any of you guys found any ideas for lights. I am working on a marquee as we speak. If I can come up with a decent option, I would consider the chase type bulbs you see on the face of marquees.
Why are these things so hard to find???

I intend to construct a marquee with chase lights as well. Never completely figured out the lights themselves but my electrician is pretty crafty so I figured we'd come up with something. I found a bunch of chasers that I hope will work at digitallighting._com/animationfolder/genchase.htm((SORRY CAN'T POST A LINK YET-remove underscore)) Personally not worried about the prices, but they seem to have a lot of options.
post #11 of 61
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

Anyone know the source of the lighting used in this poster box????

http://www.stargatecinema.com/NEW-Il...-pr-16321.html

Sorry no, but my poster box came with a box of spare lights. The box has the following label:

G25 E12 120V 7W Clear

They look similar to the one in your link above:



--curtis
post #12 of 61
Thread Starter 
Here is another option I thought about. It was my second place idea.

http://www.partylights.com/products/strings/G40.html

Here is some more interesting reading on the subject of LED marquee lights.

http://www.ledtronics.com/product_ne...cle_073005.htm

From my research the bulbs are $10 each or more.

Here are the ones from the article:

http://www.ledtronics.com/ds/DEC-S14L/

a bargain at $30-50 each??? how about a power buy?
post #13 of 61
Alright!!
Some pretty good idea's here.
I can't wait till I can take more time to pour through all of them.


Craig
post #14 of 61
Guys, I need some help here and I am sure you resourceful folks can help me out.
I am at a bit of a stand still right now with the construction of my marquee. The problem I am having believe it or not, is finding decent lettering for it in the size that I need. I am afraid I have taken for granted the fact that I would be able to easily find 2 or 3 inch lettering for the face of the marquee. Unfortunately the smallest I can find that looks good is 4 inches tall.
My marquees front dimensions where the face will be backlit for lettering is only 10 X 31 in length. I just think two rows of 4 inch lettering would take up to much space on the face and not look right. Now, I have seen plenty of lettering that resembles what you see on a gas station sign. What I am looking for is lettering that is about 1/8' thick. Even better if it was a snap lock type design like the letter in the below link.

http://www.alphabetsigns.com/marquee.html

I thought lettering like this would be easy to find, but apparently it is not.
Currently I have the frame built. I don't want to go any further till I get the situation resolved. And I definitely don't want to start over.
Any idea's??

Thanks

Craig
post #15 of 61
Thread Starter 
Google is man's best friend.

I just typed in 3 inch sign letters and this was in the first few hits:

http://www.woodlandmanufacturing.com...CRYLIC1-8.HTML
post #16 of 61
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

Google is man's best friend.

I just typed in 3 inch sign letters and this was in the first few hits:

http://www.woodlandmanufacturing.com...CRYLIC1-8.HTML


Those letters are cool, but how do you mount them? Their advice to me was to use double sided tape. Hardly changeable.
I was hoping for something like the snap lock letter in the earlier link I posted.
As of right now, it looks as though I may have to settle for the changeable plastic type lettering you see at gas stations. Even though the letters in the below link are 4" there are plenty of two inch letters available n that style.
http://www.alphabetsigns.com/flexchange.html

Oh well, I guess there is always some give and take.

Craig
post #17 of 61
anyone thought about christmas lights? cheap, mount em through a board, or boards. and you can get them to chase, flash, blink. and bulbs are very cheap. i have built several "light boards" for my friends personal bar/gamerooms.
post #18 of 61
Thread Starter 
I've tried Christmas lights and fact I've now got an assortment that failed the audition process. They basically looked like christmas lights sticking through a board.

What I've ended up with is an 11 watt sign bulb in a medium socket (normal lightbulb socket) for my marquee.

http://www.budgetlighting.com/store/...&ppinc=search2

Here is one panel at the factory:


It's going up under here:
post #19 of 61
That is going to look awesome!
post #20 of 61
Thread Starter 
Thanks Heynow, I didn't have a collection of helmuts so I had to do something different. I admire your bar it's got a feeling like I could sit there all day.

Another thing I came up with for lighting the Marquee letters is a one of a kind. I started with a LED strip lighting system from IKEA:

http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/store...umber=90098177

Then I took a piece of base molding cut out a reccess and glued the led's in the recess.



I actually put the molding up first in the shape of the Marquee then glued in a total of 8 ft of the white LED strips up.



That's how I ended up getting the Metallic letters to come alive.

post #21 of 61
Nniiiiiceee
post #22 of 61
Looks great Big, I just saw those lights in the Ikea catalog yesterday. I was thinking about using them for either in cabinet or under cabinet lighting for my bar.

Bud
post #23 of 61
Wow, looks awesome!!
Was it difficult to get the sockets to mount straight so the bulb will look straight? Did you use a cordless drill or a drill press to drill the holes? That was the dilemma I was stuck with with rope lights.
Can you take a close up or two of the socket both on the back side and face? What kind of glue did you use to mount the lights?

Craig
post #24 of 61
These were the bulbs I was going to use for the bottom perimeter of the marquee.

http://partylights.com/products/strings/G40.html

Mounting the bulbs straight was/is the issue holding me back on this concept.
Since I don't have a drill press, I was going to have to go out and buy one. I believe that is the only way you could really get the bulbs and sockets to mount straight. Even then, I question how it would turn out.

Craig
post #25 of 61
You could use a projector lamp with a gobo.
post #26 of 61
Thread Starter 
Craig I actually tried that string and changed my mind. The sockets are tapered and it's the wrong direction. The part that you would want to shove in a hole first is the biggest.
That would make for a sloppy fit.

With the medium size sockets (see link) the sockets are straight and there is actually a lug just a little less that 1/2 inch from the lip so that when you press them into a hole in 1/2 MDF the front lip just comes just a little short of the surface (perfect)

http://www.budgetlighting.com/store/...gs-Medium-Base

I used a hole cutter in an electric drill, I did have to order online the right diameter because neither Lowes, HD or Sears stocked the one I needed. I cut 1/2 the depth from one side and then flipped the wood and cut the remainder of the hole to keep the edges from tearing out.

I used Loctite construction adhesive, glueing just a few at a time. You have to keep checking that they haven't come out of position because of the weight of the cords tugging.

I'll post some more pics.
post #27 of 61
Big - the Bar area is really coming together.....sweeeet!
post #28 of 61
Thread Starter 
Bud, The last time I was at IKEA they were $20 per set less for some reason. You also need to know that they don't dim (I tried), they aren't as bright as Halogen cabinet lights and the quality of light is a lot different (bluer).
post #29 of 61
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by suffolk112000 View Post

Can you take a close up or two of the socket both on the back side and face?
Craig

I'm not taking it down to get a closer pic of the back but here is the business end. That's a 1 7/16 hole. It's actually about 1/64 to big but you gotta use what you gotta use.



I'm going to put another coat of paint on now to hide the marks from the construction process and to cover up a few of the sockets where some of the white glue is peeking through. When it dries I'll put in a few bulbs and take a pic.
post #30 of 61
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

Bud, The last time I was at IKEA they were $20 per set less for some reason. You also need to know that they don't dim (I tried), they aren't as bright as Halogen cabinet lights and the quality of light is a lot different (bluer).

Interesting about the jump in price. I did see they also come in green, blue and white. The blue must be real blue.

Bud
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