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post #2251 of 4208
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

I actually thought that to but my install was perfect minus a few cable issues afterwards (my Prem tech actually stated I had one of the cleanest lines he has seen all year). I had a new cat5 install by the tech and am really close to my VRAD (400 feet but they added another 1000 because I am technically to close). My neighbor down the street also has Uverse and has complained about the same thing. His picture looks just like mine. It isn't horrible but you can see artifacts, compression, etc. especially when the image moves on a football game. Dish wasn't perfect but it was almost completely clear with zero artifact/compression issues. I do have a 60" Pioneer Kuro Plasma so I am sure the issues are more pronounced on my set (HD looked amazing on this set though when I had Dish HD). I am trying to live with it but I definitely don't want to compromise. Now there is the talk of ATT going 3HD/1SD soon and the rumors of the compression getting even worse (I still can't believe they only use 5-6mb for HD). I don't see how this can be acceptable in the long run especially for the future of Uverse.

Did you force your Kuro HDMI input to 0-255 to get rid of the crushed blacks and dark picture?
post #2252 of 4208
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Originally Posted by AuroraProject View Post

It doesn't make any sense to me either, the specs for the device they are using claim 40-60 mbps throughput, which is slower than cat5 at 100mbps, or coax at 112mbps. So how could it possibly increase pq? I'll have one on Sunday and will be testing it later next week.

Any word on the testing results?
post #2253 of 4208
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Originally Posted by JS23 View Post

Any word on the testing results?

Yes, and there is no difference. I have a pretty good eye, and I see zero difference between the wifi adapters, coax, and cat5 fed boxes. The wifi setup is certainly more convenient, but it does not increase pq at all.
The set includes an N only wireless access point that connects to the rg, and one N antenna that connects to the stb. Setup is simple, the set is programmed with matching ssid and passphrase at the factory, so you just plug them in and it's done.
With this and the available rf remote you can have a hidden stb setup anywhere you want. On the flip side though it's just another thing that needs to sit near the rg.
post #2254 of 4208
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Originally Posted by AuroraProject View Post

With this and the available rf remote you can have a hidden stb setup anywhere you want.

How can it be hidden? The stb still needs to connect to the TV.
post #2255 of 4208
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Originally Posted by kevin79 View Post

How can it be hidden? The stb still needs to connect to the TV.

Well yes, but if you run an hdmi cable to a cabinet or closet you don't have to see the box.
post #2256 of 4208
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Originally Posted by AuroraProject View Post

Yes, and there is no difference. I have a pretty good eye, and I see zero difference between the wifi adapters, coax, and cat5 fed boxes. The wifi setup is certainly more convenient, but it does not increase pq at all.

I certainly wouldn't expect a wifi setup to increase PQ .. I would actually expect the opposite.
post #2257 of 4208
I just had AT&T U-Verse installed and I really like it so far (especially since I'm saving A LOT over Comcast). Except...the HD content or lack of HD programs. They claimed over 100 HD channels vs. Comcast's (I think) 30 so I was very interested!

I notice, when I view the guide, it will have an "HD" icon if it is broadcasted in HD. I believe all of the channels 1,000+ are HD channels but most of the programming is NOT HD. Is this b/c of AT&T's service or is the network not broadcasting in HD? Or is this how AT&T is keeping the cost down?

I spoke to a Tech at AT&T this morning and he claimed ignorance to what I was asking. Am I not explaining this right? Here is my problem...

When I had Comcast, I thought the majority of the HD channels were in fact in HD. But now I'm watching the same shows on AT&T's U-Verse and the shows do NOT look HD (crisp, clear picture quality). Or am I imagining this?

I will say that the SD pq is much better but that's not what I'm after when I'm watching HD channels on my 58" plasma!
post #2258 of 4208
That may be due to the extra compression AT&T Uverse is using on HD channels due to limited bitrate. Many have reported on that in the main Uverse thread.
SD quality is considered better on Uverse, but HD quality is considered lower than cable and satellite providers.
post #2259 of 4208
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Originally Posted by Nickerz View Post

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When I had Comcast, I thought the majority of the HD channels were in fact in HD. But now I'm watching the same shows on AT&T's U-Verse and the shows do NOT look HD (crisp, clear picture quality). Or am I imagining this?

With all due respect, did you research UVerse before you switched? HD quality limitations are apparently well known. Fortunately, I had Fios as an option and recently switched. If U Verse was my option, I would have stayed with Dish.
post #2260 of 4208
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Originally Posted by Nickerz View Post

I just had AT&T U-Verse installed and I really like it so far (especially since I'm saving A LOT over Comcast). Except...the HD content or lack of HD programs. They claimed over 100 HD channels vs. Comcast's (I think) 30 so I was very interested!

I notice, when I view the guide, it will have an "HD" icon if it is broadcasted in HD. I believe all of the channels 1,000+ are HD channels but most of the programming is NOT HD. Is this b/c of AT&T's service or is the network not broadcasting in HD? Or is this how AT&T is keeping the cost down?

I spoke to a Tech at AT&T this morning and he claimed ignorance to what I was asking. Am I not explaining this right? Here is my problem...

When I had Comcast, I thought the majority of the HD channels were in fact in HD. But now I'm watching the same shows on AT&T's U-Verse and the shows do NOT look HD (crisp, clear picture quality). Or am I imagining this?

I will say that the SD pq is much better but that's not what I'm after when I'm watching HD channels on my 58" plasma!

1) Please look for existing topics before starting new ones. I have merged your topic into the main AT&T topic.

2) It's well known (here at least) that U-verse is typically less in HD image quality than most other HD alternatives.

3) U-verse does not control how much HD is on any given HD channel. If the channel is HD, and the program is not HD, all carriers get the same SD feed.
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Does anyone know if AT&T has slowed the roll-out of U-Verse? The new box was installed at least 10 months ago in my sub, but U-Verse is still not available.

Thanks,
Matt
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So I get a call from a belligerent U-verse sale guy who tries realllly hard to get me to switch from Directv. He tells me that I can have 6 simultaneous HD streams for viewing/recording because of 'phase 2'.

I'm in a mid-70's neighborhood with underground utilities and twisted pair running to the house. Has anyone heard of 6 HD streams?

The call spiraled to the point where he said "you don't know what you're talking about", and I hung up. I'm an engineer at a local network TV affiliate, by the way. Skippy probably lost AT&T a U-verse customer for the time being.

I just got off of a pleasant on-line 'chat' with AT&T where I was told that the sales guy was smokin' crack. Well, she didn't say that exactly... My guess is that he does what he needs to make the sale, then the installer/customer service gets to clean up the mess. Nice.
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Originally Posted by Fade2Black View Post

So I get a call from a belligerent U-verse sale guy who tries realllly hard to get me to switch from Directv. He tells me that I can have 6 simultaneous HD streams for viewing/recording because of 'phase 2'.

I'm in a mid-70's neighborhood with underground utilities and twisted pair running to the house. Has anyone heard of 6 HD streams?

The call spiraled to the point where he said "you don't know what you're talking about", and I hung up. I'm an engineer at a local network TV affiliate, by the way. Skippy probably lost AT&T a U-verse customer for the time being.

I just got off of a pleasant on-line 'chat' with AT&T where I was told that the sales guy was smokin' crack. Well, she didn't say that exactly... My guess is that he does what he needs to make the sale, then the installer/customer service gets to clean up the mess. Nice.

Haha nice. Well at least its a level playing field with Charter and the likes
post #2264 of 4208
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September 14th, 2009, 12:53 pm ยท by Tamara Chuang, a.k.a. The Gadgetress

Today, AT&T unleashed new features for its U-verse TV customers who live in various parts of Orange County and the nation. These include some I mentioned last week as part of a story on Microsoft Mediaroom, which is the software used by AT&T U-verse in its set-top boxes.

New U-verse TV features announced today are:

* Multiview: The ability to watch four channels at the same time using U-verse TV Multiview. AT&T allows 4 simultaneous channels, although Microsoft's feature allows six. There are specific multiviews available: Sports, (Channel 601) Kids (Channel 301) and News (Channel 201). Subscribers to ESPN GamePlan package can get a special ESPN GamePlan Multiview, channel 4400, at no extra charge. You can also record programs while in multiview.

AT&T U-verse gets ability to view up to 4 channels at the same time.

* Media Share: View photos and listen to music stored on home PCs on the big-screen TV. Any U-verse-connected TV can now access those files.
* AT&T offers U-verse TV channel showcasing Hollywood entertainment awards, also available as an iPhone app.And then there's Channel 95, geared to iPhone users. If you want to check out who's been nominated for an Emmy, Teen Choice or other award, there's an app for that. All the entertainment award news you want, apparently.

The new features are available to all Orange County U-verse customers at no extra charge. To see the new features in action, watch the official AT&T video at http://www.youtube.com/user/ShareATT.../0/uixaVRE4l0Q posted on YouTube.

http://gadgetress.freedomblogging.co...erse-tv/21157/
post #2265 of 4208
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Originally Posted by Fade2Black View Post


I'm in a mid-70's neighborhood with underground utilities and twisted pair running to the house. Has anyone heard of 6 HD streams?

Sounds like my neighborhood. We only have twisted pair from the VRAD. We should see a bump to 3HD/1SD in the near future, but nothing along the lines of 6HD.
post #2266 of 4208
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Originally Posted by sillysam View Post

With all due respect, did you research UVerse before you switched? HD quality limitations are apparently well known. Fortunately, I had Fios as an option and recently switched. If U Verse was my option, I would have stayed with Dish.


No, I really didn't do any indepth research but for the savings in price, I would have still made the switch to AT&T U-Verse. Trying to save as much as I can and every bit helps!

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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

1) Please look for existing topics before starting new ones. I have merged your topic into the main AT&T topic.

2) It's well known (here at least) that U-verse is typically less in HD image quality than most other HD alternatives.

3) U-verse does not control how much HD is on any given HD channel. If the channel is HD, and the program is not HD, all carriers get the same SD feed.

Not to be rude but...

Yes, I did attempt to research this. - this thread dates back to 2006!!!!! I would still be reading through it to attempt to find an answer.

So just to confirm...

AT&T's guide is saying tonights Monday Night Football game is not in HD for example. So I'm assuming no one else's service is broadcasting this in HD (i.e., Comcast/Cox Cable, Dish, DirecTV, etc.)?
post #2267 of 4208
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Originally Posted by Nickerz View Post

So just to confirm...

AT&T's guide is saying tonights Monday Night Football game is not in HD for example. So I'm assuming no one else's service is broadcasting this in HD (i.e., Comcast/Cox Cable, Dish, DirecTV, etc.)?

I'm assuming you're being a bit facetious, but provider's guides aren't the most accurate source of information at times. Of course the game will be in HD, as is the current pre-game.
post #2268 of 4208
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Originally Posted by Nickerz View Post

No, I really didn't do any indepth research but for the savings in price...

You get what you pay for.

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Yes, I did attempt to research this. - this thread dates back to 2006!!!!! I would still be reading through it to attempt to find an answer.

I didn't suggest that. What I did say was it's well known that U-verse is less HD image quality than most other alternatives. This could have been learned from the posts in the last few weeks, taking maybe 15 minutes to scan through. Or, you could have posted the question here before making your decision, and at least knew what you were getting into.



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So just to confirm...

AT&T's guide is saying tonights Monday Night Football game is not in HD for example. So I'm assuming no one else's service is broadcasting this in HD (i.e., Comcast/Cox Cable, Dish, DirecTV, etc.)?

1) MNF is always HD.
2) U-verse has two ESPN channels; ESPN & ESPN HD, are you looking at the guide info for ESPN HD?
3) The guide can be wrong, and not just for U-verse.
4) Again, U-verse gets the same HD feed as all other carriers, so if a program is HD on one carrier, it's HD on them all. Of course there is always the possability of a technical issue that a carrier may have, but you would hear about it here or in a local topic. U-verse is on par with other HD providers in this respect; they rarely have technical issues that take an HD channels off the air.
post #2269 of 4208
Again, thanks for the responses! I think I might be getting somewhere!


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I'm assuming you're being a bit facetious, but provider's guides aren't the most accurate source of information at times. Of course the game will be in HD, as is the current pre-game.

No, I was asking an honest question b/c the program before MNF was (I believe) "MNF Countdown" and this was in HD (at least, it had the HD symbol in the guide. But MNF was NOT in HD.

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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

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1) MNF is always HD.
2) U-verse has two ESPN channels; ESPN & ESPN HD, are you looking at the guide info for ESPN HD?
3) The guide can be wrong, and not just for U-verse.
4) Again, U-verse gets the same HD feed as all other carriers, so if a program is HD on one carrier, it's HD on them all. Of course there is always the possability of a technical issue that a carrier may have, but you would hear about it here or in a local topic. U-verse is on par with other HD providers in this respect; they rarely have technical issues that take an HD channels off the air.

Thank you Ken for also following up!

Like I mentioned above, MNF was not in HD for me last night and I can confirm I was viewing ESPN HD (channel 1602).

I figured MNF was definitely in HD which is why I asked the question in the other post. So if you can confirm that it was in HD, I can confirm I wasn't getting it in HD. Why would AT&T have MNF Countdown (right before the game) in HD and NOT the game? I've asked AT&T this question and again, the two techs I spoke to said this shouldn't be but they didn't offer any help.

However, I checked my guide for MNF this coming Monday (10/5) and it DOES show the HD symbol. So go figure. I can confirm this was NOT the case last night. And yes, I triple checked. I really did!

Thanks for your help guys! I keep an eye on it and compare as I go through the week.
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The game was in HD for me down here in Miami.
post #2271 of 4208
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Did you force your Kuro HDMI input to 0-255 to get rid of the crushed blacks and dark picture?



Yes and it worked. I just hate having to change it right back to 16-235 when I want to use any of my other sources (PS3/XBOX 360).
post #2272 of 4208
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Yes and it worked. I just hate having to change it right back to 16-235 when I want to use any of my other sources (PS3/XBOX 360).

Ah, I hear ya- I was doing the same, it was a pain. I just cancelled U-verse a few days before my 30days were up. Switched to Dish Network, which has been fantastic so far.

I'd be more than happy to come back to U-verse if they'd work out the bugs and actually do things proper.

8-10mbps HD streams, and more than 2 at a time for a household; fix the stupid audio dropouts and I'd be happy. Everything else, inlcuding the DVRs, shared recordings, and internet were all great.

With Dish Network and 2 DVRs I can now record 4 HD channels at the same time, in addition to another 3 OTA HD channels.
post #2273 of 4208
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Originally Posted by Fade2Black View Post

So I get a call from a belligerent U-verse sale guy who tries realllly hard to get me to switch from Directv. He tells me that I can have 6 simultaneous HD streams for viewing/recording because of 'phase 2'.

I'm in a mid-70's neighborhood with underground utilities and twisted pair running to the house. Has anyone heard of 6 HD streams?

The call spiraled to the point where he said "you don't know what you're talking about", and I hung up. I'm an engineer at a local network TV affiliate, by the way. Skippy probably lost AT&T a U-verse customer for the time being.

I just got off of a pleasant on-line 'chat' with AT&T where I was told that the sales guy was smokin' crack. Well, she didn't say that exactly... My guess is that he does what he needs to make the sale, then the installer/customer service gets to clean up the mess. Nice.

I suspect he mearn you could stream 4HD off the DVR and still have 2 live HD streams with the phase 2 dvr. But sounds like he was was trying to hide the face that you only get 2 live HD streams, or that he was misinformed on the capabilities of the system.
post #2274 of 4208
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Originally Posted by cwh View Post

I suspect he mearn you could stream 4HD off the DVR and still have 2 live HD streams with the phase 2 dvr. But sounds like he was was trying to hide the face that you only get 2 live HD streams, or that he was misinformed on the capabilities of the system.

He first called last Friday, and it all sounded good, except that I didn't know they had expanded/upgraded that quickly (they hadn't). I told him I'd talk to some people I work with who have U-verse and if he'd call back Monday, I'd have an answer for him.

I -specifically- asked "how many HD channels can I simultaneously record?". I asked that on Friday and again on Monday. I had already told him that I have 3 HD-DVR's with DirecTV and can record 6 HD streams at once. He just parroted that back to me to make a sale (my opinion).

Regardless of motives, what really upset me was him telling me I didn't know what I was talking about when I asked how they could get that much HD to my house over a phone line, along with DSL? He even said they used "the same lines as DirecTV"! I assume he meant the coax inside the house, but by that point the conversation was over.

On 2nd thought, maybe DirecTV comes in over the phone line and the dishes are just a cool fashion statement. You know, like those giant wings superglued to Kias! Is that the secret he was giving away?
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I am curious to know if anyone has any experience with uverse in the Danbury/Ridgefield Area. I got the mailer from them that is was now available and went to check out the line up especially HD. The number of HD stations available is significantly more than Comcast in my area - while the Comcast service is good it seems that our area (Danbury) is the last to get HD adds, or upgardes.

My question is expectations and what to ask if I call. Currently we have 3 large (42 -to 52") HD TVs, 3 small (19" LCDS) HDs that are all QAM ready. I assume from reading the Uverse site, that like Sat, I will need STBs for all the TVs (currently the small ones don't have them). It is not uncommon to have 3 different HD shows going on the TVs, will I be able to do this? Also will our viewing have any impact on internet connections or voice speed.

I have read the posts about the HD quality and I guess I will have to go somewhere and see the picture to see if it is acceptable, but I am not sure that Danbury Comcast is a good reference.

Any input is greatly appreciated.
post #2276 of 4208
Only 2 HD streams available at once with U-Verse plus 2 SD for 4 total. So 3 HD channels at once is a no go. Every TV needs a box, the first one is included, each additional one is $7. HD PQ has not gotten rave reviews.
post #2277 of 4208
Remy

Thanks -- Yikes how will they survive with people being able to only watch two HD streams. I guess I will just have to hold on for Comcast in Danbury to either start offering more HD or consider SAT.
post #2278 of 4208
Is there a way to keep the PIP box open, and not closing after 10-20sec? Would like to be able to watch 2 football games at once.
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Any one done a comparison between Uverse and Dish Network?
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Originally Posted by ltownsend View Post

Any one done a comparison between Uverse and Dish Network?

I have had both, also Charter cable, within the last month.

U-verse can't compete based on the fact that they choke HD streams with limited bandwidth. In my case, 2 HD streams for a household is also ridiculous- compared to the 4 I have with Dish (and another 3 OTA HD).
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