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post #661 of 1717
10/31/06 at 6:36am
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Online orders can be tricky, some people have great experiences and others have bad ones. Ive heard good things about ABT. Sorry I dont have the exact web address.
Good luck.

If you like saving alot of money, order it online. As long as you order from a reputable site, you should be fine.

I saved about $1200-1500 over buying it from Best Buy.

Check the shopping sites that reviews stores and you can even look up the model number for a price comparison.
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post #662 of 1717
10/31/06 at 6:48am
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QuantumVision,
I personally think youd be happy with the 71. I did see the 61 and think the pic quality is very similarto the 71. Of course thats just my opinion. I did get to see the 71 before I purchased though. Where do you reside? Is there not a Tweeter nearby?

Online orders can be tricky, some people have great experiences and others have bad ones. Ive heard good things about ABT. Sorry I dont have the exact web address.
Good luck.

Thanks for your comments. I live in northeastern PA, near Scranton. We dont have any Tweeters here. To be honest, I never heard of them before reading this forum. Also, no Costco's either. Just your basic BB and CC. And both of them only carry 61" Sammys, 65" Mitsus and 62" Toshibas. We also have Sam's Club, but they seem to only have the older models, not really the newer sets. There is one smaller AV store here that carries the 72" Toshiba, so I was able to watch that, and I think I should be fine with getting the bigger screen of the 71" Sammy. But the PQ of the Toshiba (72MX195) didn't really do much for me. Maybe it was the store feed to the TV, but whatever it was it left me with not enough confidence. And get this, they had this last year's model priced 500 bucks over the MSRP, and then reduced it to the MSRP. Wow, thanks for saving me from paying OVER retail.

Anyways, if I purchase this set online, is there anything I should look out for when purchasing.
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post #663 of 1717
10/31/06 at 6:52am
Do you have any Best Buy's close with a Magnolia home theater section? If so, I bet they would have it.
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post #664 of 1717
10/31/06 at 6:55am
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Originally Posted by QuantumVision View Post

Anyways, if I purchase this set online, is there anything I should look out for when purchasing.

Reputable site mainly. I would even call them versus ordering online. That way, you can get an idea of their stock, shipment date and ships from where.

Remember that the manufacturers warranty is 1 year....so you might want to search the net for an in home service plan....you can find those cheap on the net too. If its important to you. Some dont buy one.
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post #665 of 1717
10/31/06 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo View Post

Do you have any Best Buy's close with a Magnolia home theater section? If so, I bet they would have it.

The Best Buy's here don't have the Magnolia section either.

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Originally Posted by RockStrongo View Post

Reputable site mainly. I would even call them versus ordering online. That way, you can get an idea of their stock, shipment date and ships from where.

Remember that the manufacturers warranty is 1 year....so you might want to search the net for an in home service plan....you can find those cheap on the net too. If its important to you. Some dont buy one.

Yeah, I would definetely buy an extended warranty. I've seen some RepairMaster warranties for as low as a little over $200 for 4 or 5 years. Would I have any concerns about getting a RepairMaster Warranty from an online dealer? Do the basic RepairMaster warranties cover the bulbs too?
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post #666 of 1717
10/31/06 at 8:14am
With the help of my SpyderTV, I adjusted the RGB gains/cuts and also inputted measured settings for the xyY of my primaries into the CCA menu -- the measured Y was significantly lower than the default value. This resulted in my "normal" temperature setting going to D65 and RGB primaries all fell to 100% of norm +/- 2%. Prior to adjusting cuts/gains, the blue was at 141% and red was at 120%.

Since I do like the edge enhancement offered by DNIe, I turned off the black crush in the service menu so that now I can enjoy the benefits of DNIe without the negative impact on black level.

SpyderTV guided me through the user settings as well. I ended up with a contrast of 93 and brightness of 28 -- according to SpyderTV this gave me 150-170 cd/m2. The contrast was significantly higher than your recommended setting of 40-45, although it does look nice and there seems to be a good range between white and black.

I realize that a real ISF calibration would probably be more accurate and extensive, but has SpyderTV at least put me in the ballpark?

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Originally Posted by Eliab View Post

Your display has quite a few things wrong that will have a huge impact on overall image quality. Grayscale, gamma, color space, color decoding, etc. Of course, it is also only as good as the incoming signal. But once calibrated, it is actually far more accurate than a Pioneer CRT/RPTV.

Eliab
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post #667 of 1717
10/31/06 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by QuantumVision View Post

Would I have any concerns about getting a RepairMaster Warranty from an online dealer? Do the basic RepairMaster warranties cover the bulbs too?

I wouldnt think you should have any worries once its registered.

They usually do not cover bulbs, but they can be purchased separately. I didnt buy a warranty for the bulb since they are only a couple years term.
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post #668 of 1717
11/1/06 at 5:19am
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo View Post

Reputable site mainly. I would even call them versus ordering online. That way, you can get an idea of their stock, shipment date and ships from where.

And if you're concerned, check out Samsung's authorized resellers -

http://samsung.links.channelintellig...X/XAA&nRGID=23
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post #669 of 1717
11/1/06 at 9:35pm
Just received my 7178 today and am thrilled with the picture. Exchanged a Mits 65732 and couldn't be happier.
One question. I tried hooking up my Xbox 360 with the VGA cable. I set the resolution to 1920 x 1080 using the fall update. However, I get a black band all around the screen. Probably no more than a 1-inch box, but I want the picture to fill the entire screen.
Is there something I haven't set right in the menu? Using component cables, and setting the output from the 360 to 1080p, the picture fills the entire screen, but I was hoping to use my 360 to upscale DVD's.
Anyone familiar with this, or have their 360 hooked up using VGA? I really appreciate the help.
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post #670 of 1717
11/2/06 at 7:05am
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Originally Posted by gmorganonw View Post

Just received my 7178 today and am thrilled with the picture. Exchanged a Mits 65732 and couldn't be happier.
One question. I tried hooking up my Xbox 360 with the VGA cable. I set the resolution to 1920 x 1080 using the fall update. However, I get a black band all around the screen. Probably no more than a 1-inch box, but I want the picture to fill the entire screen.
Is there something I haven't set right in the menu? Using component cables, and setting the output from the 360 to 1080p, the picture fills the entire screen, but I was hoping to use my 360 to upscale DVD's.
Anyone familiar with this, or have their 360 hooked up using VGA? I really appreciate the help.

I beleive the P.Size button on the Samsung remote will do the trick for you.

Gizmo Joe
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post #671 of 1717
11/2/06 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by Gizmo Joe View Post

I beleive the P.Size button on the Samsung remote will do the trick for you.

Gizmo Joe

I'll give that a shot when I get home. Thanks for the help!
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post #672 of 1717
11/2/06 at 8:18am
You need to auto adjust the picture size in PC mode. Then you resize the picture using the remote button. You can get just about a perfect 1:1 setup. Without auto sizing first it won't work perfectly.
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post #673 of 1717
11/2/06 at 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by solliex View Post

You need to auto adjust the picture size in PC mode. Then you resize the picture using the remote button. You can get just about a perfect 1:1 setup. Without auto sizing first it won't work perfectly.

Worked like a charm! Thanks for the help.
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post #674 of 1717
11/3/06 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by solliex View Post

You need to auto adjust the picture size in PC mode. Then you resize the picture using the remote button. You can get just about a perfect 1:1 setup. Without auto sizing first it won't work perfectly.

I was able to adjust the picture size and position with the 3 P.Size options but I do not know what you mean by "auto adjust/sizing"? Is that something seperate?

Gizmo Joe
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post #675 of 1717
11/3/06 at 6:55pm
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Originally Posted by Busacrazy7 View Post

My sammy shuts off after like 20 min of viewing and the lamp/temp on the front flashes. After about 2 min it stops and the tv can be turned on again. Does this mean i need a new bulb or can it be something else? The thing is only a month old and it just started this yesterday. I called the tech support from the place i bought it but they are closed on the weekend... somebody help!!!


How did you make out with this problem, any updates ? I read something about some sets having issues with the micro-switch located behind the lamp door. Keep us posted. Thanks
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post #676 of 1717
11/4/06 at 7:31am
I am really torn between the 71" Sammy and the 70" Sony XBR2, why did you choose the Sammy over the Sony.

Can you also show me your stands?

Thanks
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post #677 of 1717
11/4/06 at 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by AnthemAVM View Post

I am really torn between the 71" Sammy and the 70" Sony XBR2, why did you choose the Sammy over the Sony.

Can you also show me your stands?

Thanks

Anyone order from the internet company that has it for $2999.99 with free shipping? You can find out who I am talking about by using pricegrabber.com. That is by far the best price I have seen on it.
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post #678 of 1717
11/4/06 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by auburnu008 View Post

Anyone order from the internet company that has it for $2999.99 with free shipping? You can find out who I am talking about by using pricegrabber.com. That is by far the best price I have seen on it.

Anyone?
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post #679 of 1717
11/4/06 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by auburnu008 View Post

Anyone?

Are they an authorized dealer?
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post #680 of 1717
11/4/06 at 6:12pm
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Originally Posted by AnthemAVM View Post

Are they an authorized dealer?

No, 3/4 of the retailers online are not.
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post #681 of 1717
11/4/06 at 6:15pm
I wouldn't spend the money, and take a risk to not get a valid warranty.
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post #682 of 1717
11/4/06 at 6:22pm
Do you think I should? They have no ratings on resellerratings.com. I called and they have 12 in stock he said. I asked if there were any hiden fees and they said there were none. I also asked if it was A stock and he said yes. He said it was no factory warranty from Samsung but that it came with a 12 month warranty from them. $2999 shipped. That is a great price. What do you guys think?
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post #683 of 1717
11/4/06 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by auburnu008 View Post

Do you think I should? They have no ratings on resellerratings.com. I called and they have 12 in stock he said. I asked if there were any hiden fees and they said there were none. I also asked if it was A stock and he said yes. He said it was no factory warranty from Samsung but that it came with a 12 month warranty from them. $2999 shipped. That is a great price. What do you guys think?

I made a type, I should have said wouldn't do it, there is no such thing as a free lunch. What if you get it home, and it doesn't work, then it takes them weeks to get it changed out.

Is it really worth saving $800 bucks.
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post #684 of 1717
11/5/06 at 11:47am
It seems that the Mits 65831 and the HLS 7178 are similarly priced. The extra 6" for the same price is certainly appealing. Since this is the 7178 owners thread, did anybody else come down to this decision and why did you go with the 7178?
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post #685 of 1717
11/6/06 at 6:45am
You want to go to SOURCE then select PC the Menu setup PC and pick "Auto Adjustment".

If you have the manual it is on Page 136.
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post #686 of 1717
11/6/06 at 7:16am
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Originally Posted by Fargex View Post

It seems that the Mits 65831 and the HLS 7178 are similarly priced. The extra 6" for the same price is certainly appealing. Since this is the 7178 owners thread, did anybody else come down to this decision and why did you go with the 7178?

I went with the 7178 simply because Samsung has been doing DLP the longest. If I would have wanted an SXRD I would have bought a Sony. A plasma, I would have bought a Pioneer ect.. Mitsubishi is sort of stuck in the middle because they waited too long to develop a new technology beyond CRT. They pioneered the CRT television and had the best large CRT you could buy. Now these other companies have branched off and developed new technologies and left Mitsubishi with their dated CRT tech. Mitsubishi needs (IMO) to pioneer another new technology and perfect it as they did with CRT.
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post #687 of 1717
11/6/06 at 7:26am
Just got this TV on Saturday. Haven't had a whole lot of time to play with it (unfortunately, was at a funeral out of town yesterday instead of watching football in HD). So far, I've only wired the thing up.

Two questions, one audio related, one video related:

1) I have my HD cable box input to the TV via HDMI. The optical digital out from the cable goes into my receiver, and I can get 5.1 audio out over my surround speakers no problem. However, I can't get any audio out of the TV unless I switch the Digital Out settings on the cable box to HDMI from Dolby Digital (in which case, I no longer get 5.1 through the surround system). I can't get audio from the TV even if I connect stereo RCA cables to the audio inputs on HDMI 1/DVI. Most of the time, I'll be using the surround speakers for audio, but sometimes (i.e., if I'm watching something and my wife is asleep), I'll want to use the TV speakers instead. Thoughts? Is the TV ignoring all audio inputs because of the HDMI to HDMI connection?

2) It looks like the sides on 4:3 pictures are bowed inwards. Is this just an optical illusion because of the height of the screen?
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post #688 of 1717
11/6/06 at 7:35am
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Originally Posted by safelder View Post

Just got this TV on Saturday. Haven't had a whole lot of time to play with it (unfortunately, was at a funeral out of town yesterday instead of watching football in HD). So far, I've only wired the thing up.

Two questions, one audio related, one video related:

1) I have my HD cable box input to the TV via HDMI. The optical digital out from the cable goes into my receiver, and I can get 5.1 audio out over my surround speakers no problem. However, I can't get any audio out of the TV unless I switch the Digital Out settings on the cable box to HDMI from Dolby Digital (in which case, I no longer get 5.1 through the surround system). I can't get audio from the TV even if I connect stereo RCA cables to the audio inputs on HDMI 1/DVI. Most of the time, I'll be using the surround speakers for audio, but sometimes (i.e., if I'm watching something and my wife is asleep), I'll want to use the TV speakers instead. Thoughts? Is the TV ignoring all audio inputs because of the HDMI to HDMI connection?

2) It looks like the sides on 4:3 pictures are bowed inwards. Is this just an optical illusion because of the height of the screen?

1. The problem is your cable box, not your TV. The cable box, when set to DD, will only send audio out of the optical and coaxial digital ports. My advice would be to check out your receiver and see if it has a "night mode" where it cuts down the volume output while still allowing dialogue to come through.

2. Unfortunately, this is due to inherent geometry issues associated with screens of this size.
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post #689 of 1717
11/6/06 at 7:55am
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Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post

1. The problem is your cable box, not your TV. The cable box, when set to DD, will only send audio out of the optical and coaxial digital ports. My advice would be to check out your receiver and see if it has a "night mode" where it cuts down the volume output while still allowing dialogue to come through.

2. Unfortunately, this is due to inherent geometry issues associated with screens of this size.

1. Thanks. I kind of figured that this was a shortcoming of the box, not the TV. The receiver does indeed have a night mode, and I will configure an appropriate macro on my universal remote. I'd feed the digital out from the TV to the receiver, but then I lose DD (since the HDMI input is 2 channel PCM only).

2. Figured as much here, too.
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post #690 of 1717
11/6/06 at 8:44am
I got mine last week, and it's incredible. The quaity and the size of the picture is overwhelming. I am going to buy some HDMI cables this week and wanted to know if the Standard Cable picutre quality will increase as much as the HD picture quality will?
Also does anyone have any suggestions on a good matching HD DVD player for this set?

Thanks a lot, I've been reading this forum for some time before I got my tv, it was very informative.



Aleksey
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