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post #31 of 2109
Could someone with the new 42" set tell me if the remote WIDE button provides more than just NORMAL and WIDE on the DTV, HDMI and component inputs - allowing the ZOOM and PANORAMIC settings? On my 37" I only get the ZOOM and PANORAMIC along with NORMAL & WIDE on regular (non-digital) TV and AV.

Waiting for more positive comments from owners before returning the 37" unit.

mikea28 - thanks for changing the thread name. BTW - the Costco here in King of Prussia, PA (near Philadelphia) said they had 15 in stock yesterday (Friday). Yours should be getting some soon.

Steve W.
post #32 of 2109
The darker pictures lack detail compared to all the big name brand LCDs, but at the price one can not complain. Sure, the Sony and Sharp LCDs look better, but they cost a heck of a lot more. I work at Costco in the TV department and mess around with these TVs all the time and have yet been able to get the off brand TVs to get detail in the darker areas without a loss of color and a graying of the blacks. I do think the TV is very sharp and it looks great on brighter content. It is a great value buy, but not really comparable to the top rated LCDs.

Roy
post #33 of 2109
Just bought the 42 Vizio at Sam's today. Vizio website showes that the model at Costco is $100 more and the contrast is 1600 where the Sam's version is 800.

I have a 37 Vizio from Sam's and will take that back to Sam's 42 looks better and the volume does change like the 37 which drove my wife nuts when she when from the movie channels to other channels

I wish Sam's had the better version
post #34 of 2109
CHEAPLCD,
Although the spec sheet for the GV42 on the VIZIO website lists the contrast as 1600:1, the manual (which I printed out) has the contrast spec listed as 800:1 (typical) - don't know which is right, but I hear that contrast specs are very subjective anyway. The Costco model (GV42) has more picture adjustments than the Sam's model (L42) plus removable speakers.
Is the black finish on the Sam's model glossy or matte? The GV42 is glossy while the L37 I now have has a matte finish which I like better.

Steve W.
post #35 of 2109
L42 black frame is glossy and I like the look of it over the 37 (HiTech Look)

The picture is a lot better then the 37 and the cost different is 300.00 no brainer here bigger and better.

What are the additional picture adjustments in the Costco version?

If contrast rating was from a different maker I would agree but from the same maker and the higher cost I think there is a good chance they did something then charge more as Costco and Sam's are going head to head.

I have HDTV cable and my picture is great.
post #36 of 2109
I called VIZIO before buying because of the contrast ratio discrepency and was told that the GV does have a 1600:1 ratio. I couldn't remember at the time where I'd seen 800:1, went back and viewed the manual online and found it in the specs on page 65. I knew I'd seen it somewhere. I haven't called back to point this out, but when I did call I was on hold for some time while she checked with an "engineer".
Since having the set for 2 days I haven't had a whole lot of time to experiment with it, but I'll give you what I've got so far, as a newb. SD cable looks bad as expected. Grainy & saturated. DVD over HDMI is a lot better, though it's coming from the K860 player that I've been sitting on for several weeks while shopping for a display and don't know what to expect out of a cheap DVD player. I did notice that if the room is quiet there is an occasional tick or pop coming from the set. From the 37" thread, this has driven some to be returned, but I only noticed it once. We'll see if it's just the new plastic expanding from the heat the set is generating. So far I'm pleased ......Think I'll go watch a movie. -chris

oh, 1 more thing. This set now has a backlit remote.
post #37 of 2109
Answers to recent questions from a GV42 owner:

Here are the available modes

TV: Normal, Wide, Zoom, Panoramic
AV: Normal, Wide, Zoom, Panoramic
Component: Normal, Wide, Zoom
HDMI: Normal, Wide, Zoom

The extra picture adjustment features:

(on page 44 of the GV42 manual available at the Vizio site)

DNR
Black Level Extender
White Peak Limiter
Color Transient Intensity
Flesh Tone
Adaptive LUna
Dynamic Contrast

Does anyone have a well-researched set of settings for this TV (like I've seen in other threads)??? I can share what I did from the THX optimizer, but I'm sure others have much better callibration methods.
post #38 of 2109
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Originally Posted by royy View Post

The darker pictures lack detail compared to all the big name brand LCDs, but at the price one can not complain. Sure, the Sony and Sharp LCDs look better, but they cost a heck of a lot more. I work at Costco in the TV department and mess around with these TVs all the time and have yet been able to get the off brand TVs to get detail in the darker areas without a loss of color and a graying of the blacks. I do think the TV is very sharp and it looks great on brighter content. It is a great value buy, but not really comparable to the top rated LCDs.

Roy

I think Roy is right on the money from what I just saw at my local Costco. They had the Pirates of the Caribbean, Batman Begins, and Superman Preview Loops playing, all were the dark scenes, so it was great to judge the detail of black levels. The Sharp LCD was noticeably better with the black levels than the Vizio 42" LCD, the Sony 40" Bravia was slightly better, but the Vizio was still very watch-able, and I am sure could be better when tweaked. At the price point that it is being sold, this is one GREAT buy!

The Vizio Plasma at 50", which is a few bills higher than the 42" Vizio LCD was on the other side, so it was tough to do a direct comparison. The LCD's are without a doubt more vivid than any Plasma, including the Panny. Where the Plasmas might have an edge is in the black levels, but the Sharp 45" is right on par, with the Sony next, then the Vizio 42" LCD. But, none can match the Vizio 42" LCD price point.
post #39 of 2109
There is the $100 different

DNR
Black Level Extender
White Peak Limiter
Color Transient Intensity
Flesh Tone
Adaptive LUna
Dynamic Contrast (1600)

It too bad Vizio are building the 42 different for Costco and Sam's - that sucks!
post #40 of 2109
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHEAPLCD View Post

There is the $100 different

DNR
Black Level Extender
White Peak Limiter
Color Transient Intensity
Flesh Tone
Adaptive LUna
Dynamic Contrast

It too bad Vizio are building the 42 different for Costco and Sam's - that sucks!

i bet they're very similar internally...firmware hack anyone?
alternatively, my guess is that most of this stuff is in the service menu somewhere or is otherwise useless.
post #41 of 2109
Firmware hack is wishful thinking - when you add $100 cost that is more then a firmware change.

Costco out smarted Sam's on this one
post #42 of 2109
Triangel7D,
Thanks for defining the various WIDE button modes for the GV42.

CHEAPLCD,
Yes I agree - I have no idea why VIZIO would come up with two 42" sets with different features - so similar but with a few neat differences in the GV42 picture setup. I think now I am going to do what you did - buy the 42", keep the 37" and decide in my home which I like the best and take back the other one.
Edit: Just saw your last post - I wonder if Costco or Sam's really have anything to do with setting specs. It does look like Costco got the slightly better design for some reason.

Relsom,
Interesting that there would be different Contrast specs - you would think the LCD panel and the electronics driving it would be the same for both units, just differences in the picture setup menus.
For the first time two days ago I heard some ticks when I turned the 37" set ON and also when I turned it OFF. Yesterday it didn't do it at all.

Thanks to all - lets keep posting our likes and dislikes on the new 42" sets.

Steve W.
post #43 of 2109
I think this is a dum move for Vizio and it will bite them in the end

Now Vizio will change specs on new models for Costco and Sam's - Vizio is releasing a 46 lcd at the end of the year and I guess it will happen again
post #44 of 2109
Triangel7D: thanks for the info. Could you possibly post the DTV modes? I suspect it is much like the 42" plasma that only has normal and wide (and a zoom that has the "2x" permanently displayed). Still I'm not too upset watching a letterbox/pillarbox image on an LCD as opposed to a plasma.

Is it possible that the 2 models have different panel manufacturers like the Maxents?
post #45 of 2109
To correct my earlier post:

In Component Mode, the following are available ONLY IF it is receiving a 4:3 signal:

Normal, Wide, Panoramic, Zoom

I found this out while playing my PS2. The HDMI still does not provide Panoramic, even with a 4:3 signal.
post #46 of 2109
I didn't hook up my antenna this time around. I'll give it a shot later today and tell you what I find.
post #47 of 2109
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by CHEAPLCD View Post

Firmware hack is wishful thinking - when you add $100 cost that is more then a firmware change.

Costco out smarted Sam's on this one

this happens ALL THE TIME in the consumer electronics industry. A lot of times, higher end models merely have better looking cases or few more minor features here and there or are only sold in "hi-fi" stores. most of the time, the underlying parts are the same. in fact, it's often harder to have two completely different sets of inventory, suppliers, etc. two support two truely different models. Costco and Sams probably just wanted to have unique models so they weren't competing with each other directly (price matching each other?). or maybe it's just the different demographic of the two stores. who knows, but i'd bet money they're more similar than they are different.
post #48 of 2109
I hooked up my OTA antenna & the good thing is that it's picking the Analog & Digital as there is one antenna input only. I noticed the Vizio 37 & 32 only picked the stations that had strong signals. This tuner is picking the stations call letter & at least storing them.

The remote is better built & backlit.

has anyone figured out the service menu yet?
post #49 of 2109
Hi everyone! Nice forum. I was just wondering, I purchased the Vizio L42 today and am loving it. The only problem I have is that I have a Motorola DVR DCT6416 and need a universal code for the Vizio. I only don't like the remote .


Any help would be appreciated!
post #50 of 2109
The fact that Costco model has better picture controls and enhancements is a big deal in my book. It's the reason I'm willing to spend that much money and after a few weeks Costco's price different will be more like $50 or less. Vizio should have make them the same inside and just changed the model number or the outside as they have for Costco. I will bet that if you put them side by side you would easily see the different.

Sam's must have known this because Vizio would never blindsided them and so Sam's mind set is only on price period!

OK OK - will someone buy each and write a review
post #51 of 2109
1000MPH,

I plugged my antenna in and got my OTA channels. The 3 modes are:

Normal
Wide
Stretch

I'm not entirely sure what stretch is. It's not in the manual. It seems stretch non-16:9 that's broadcasted as wide with bars.
post #52 of 2109
Just got back from Costco and saw this. The shiny glass black bezel looks VERY nice. Picture quality seems fine. I had a 37" Vizio LCD which I took back, and this one looks much better.

I recently bought a Pioneer 4271 from BB, but I am thinking about taking it back. It's for my bedroom, and I don't need the world's greatest picture there. Looking at what you get for the money and the aesthetics, this could be a keeper.
post #53 of 2109
Any more reviews of the new 42" Vizio LCD? Have people run calibration DVDs and found decent settings?
post #54 of 2109
i know the vizio 37 lcd had problems with the blacks looking greenish, does this 42 have this problem?
post #55 of 2109
I have had 32, 37 & now 42. IMO 32 has excellent PQ for HD & SD. 37 did have the greenish hue but PQ for HD & SD was good. 42 is really dark & PQ for HD is OK & SD is bad. Maybe my 42 is defective? Has anyone compared all three?
post #56 of 2109
Quote:
Originally Posted by jassiji View Post

I have had 32, 37 & now 42. IMO 32 has excellent PQ for HD & SD. 37 did have the greenish hue but PQ for HD & SD was good. 42 is really dark & PQ for HD is OK & SD is bad. Maybe my 42 is defective? Has anyone compared all three?

I have a friend with the 37 and we have compared all 3 in the store.. admittedly not the ideal location. But I agree with your assessment completely. I wasn't able to get the 42 bright at all without turning the blacks into grey IMO.
post #57 of 2109
Anyone who owns this display care to post some pics?? Jassiji you feel that the PQ on your 37 was better?? Just curious because I was all set to get this TV
post #58 of 2109
The 32 was better. Here are some pics. First one is KPBD HD, 2nd is SD.
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post #59 of 2109
Quote:
Originally Posted by jassiji View Post

I have had 32, 37 & now 42. IMO 32 has excellent PQ for HD & SD. 37 did have the greenish hue but PQ for HD & SD was good. 42 is really dark & PQ for HD is OK & SD is bad. Maybe my 42 is defective? Has anyone compared all three?

I had the 37 and now the 42, and I agree with the greenish hue in the 37 (and I'm happier with a set that may go gray as it goes bright instead of greenish dark hues). But have you considered that the drop in SD picture quality may have something to do with the fact that you're looking at a larger set with the exact same resolution? Since it's bigger, you now see more of the pixelization. I will say for the 42 that HD looks MUCH better, even in composite. And over the next few years (and as the HD Tivo finally comes out), that's what really counts for me.
post #60 of 2109
Couple of pics of my 42" Vizio running. I love this thing. The blacks are really black.

One pic of Spiderman 2
and a crappy AVP pic just to show the darkness.
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