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And 1 more picture of the HDMI inputs...
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post #152 of 14269
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Originally Posted by dlm10541 View Post

NO

They're "in stock" so that you order now and they charge your CC now. Then you spend a lot of your time on the phone wondering where your order is and getting your money back. Avoid these rip off companies.

AVS is in the process of becoming a Sony dealer, if not already. Call them first since they deserve our support and are likely to have great prices too. If they're not selling the A2000, they'll likely point you to one of their Alliance Members that does. And if that fails, ask and someone (like me) will PM or email you with that info. I preordered mine from an Alliance member that Alan put me in touch with. They're a Sony dealer with great prices and service.
post #153 of 14269
I have a rather esoteric measurement request. I'm trying to plan for a center speaker mount. Can you measure the distance from the top of the main bulk of the set to the top of the frontmost panel. Also, how far back from the front panel is it before the bulk of the frame angles downwards?

I know that probably made no sense, so I marked the two distances I'm interested in on this picture in red:

post #154 of 14269
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Originally Posted by fade23 View Post

I have a rather esoteric measurement request. I'm trying to plan for a center speaker mount. Can you measure the distance from the top of the main bulk of the set to the top of the frontmost panel. Also, how far back from the front panel is it before the bulk of the frame angles downwards?

I know that probably made no sense, so I marked the two distances I'm interested in on this picture in red:



1 and 5/16in pic no 1
3 and 7/8in pic no 2
post #155 of 14269
I also have a unique measuring request. How far does the extreme back of the cabinet jut out from where the exhaust fan in back is (next to the HDMI inputs)? Another way of saying the same question is: if I pushed the back of the TV flush against the wall, what is the distance between the fan (next to the HDMI cables) and the wall (fyi... I'm not planning on pushing the TV right up against the wall).


fade23, unless if your center channel is really light, you might want to rethink setting it on top on this TV. umr has mentioned that center channels are often heavy enough to warp the plastic cabinet, and thus warp the geometry. Personally, I'm planning on building a shelf above my rear projection TV (off the wall). Then again, my center channel is 45 lbs (ouch).
post #156 of 14269
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Originally Posted by dlm10541 View Post

Agreed. Hopefully more owners in hours. I should have mine Tuesday but since I use an external processor my views may not be of much value to most

Like you, I have a VP30 and am considering the 55" model, so please post! Thanks!

- Gerry
post #157 of 14269
[quote=AVBill]I also have a unique measuring request. How far does the extreme back of the cabinet jut out from where the exhaust fan in back is (next to the HDMI inputs)? Another way of saying the same question is: if I pushed the back of the TV flush against the wall, what is the distance between the fan (next to the HDMI cables) and the wall (fyi... I'm not planning on pushing the TV right up against the wall).


About 2 inches. The manual says the set requires 4 inches from the extreme back of the set. The fan area actually sticks out a little thus decreasing the distance.
post #158 of 14269
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Originally Posted by AVBill View Post

fade23, unless if your center channel is really light, you might want to rethink setting it on top on this TV. umr has mentioned that center channels are often heavy enough to warp the plastic cabinet, and thus warp the geometry. Personally, I'm planning on building a shelf above my rear projection TV (off the wall). Then again, my center channel is 45 lbs (ouch).

Oh, I know. My center is about 22 lbs, I would never risk picture distortion. I'm not mounting it on top of the TV itself, I'm installing a wall mounted tray above it. I'm trying to acheive a "floating" effect with it though, where the speaker just crests the top of the front panel when viewed straight on.
post #159 of 14269
[quote=bill175]
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Originally Posted by AVBill View Post

I also have a unique measuring request. How far does the extreme back of the cabinet jut out from where the exhaust fan in back is (next to the HDMI inputs)? Another way of saying the same question is: if I pushed the back of the TV flush against the wall, what is the distance between the fan (next to the HDMI cables) and the wall (fyi... I'm not planning on pushing the TV right up against the wall).


About 2 inches. The manual says the set requires 4 inches from the extreme back of the set. The fan area actually sticks out a little thus decreasing the distance.

Thanks, bill175!

fade23, I thought you might know that, but I just wanted to make sure (I'd hate to see your new investment get crushed).
post #160 of 14269
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Originally Posted by BrandonJF View Post

And 1 more picture of the HDMI inputs...

Man why are the HDMI connections on the left side of the fan away from the othe connections. Freaking HDMI cables cost enough.
post #161 of 14269
For those of you looking to pair an A2000 with a VP30, are you concerned about the VP30's 1080i de-interlacing? My first thought when I read all of the DRCv1 vs. DRCv2 stuff was that a VP30 would be good solution. But then I read the following in the review from Secrets of HT and Hi-Fi:

Like the iScan HD+, the VP30 does not do full 1080i de-interlacing, although it will do bob/weave for 1080i.

So have any VP30 owners used it on a 1080p display? If so how did fair? I guess it could still perform better than the A2000.


For the A2000 owner's Thanks for the info, please keep it coming.
post #162 of 14269
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Originally Posted by BrandonJF View Post

Yep - I took a picture of the logo on the side (and a few of the back... I didn't notice any back shots posted yet. Sorry if they were and I missed it...)

any info on the 'service only' connector in the photo?
post #163 of 14269
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Originally Posted by bill175 View Post

Im on the West coast and it still hasn't arrived. I hate to tell you this, I don't have a digital camera to take some pics. What's really funny is I used to work in Calvert County!

Bill, the CC in Culver City, Ca. is claiming they haven't hit the store yet because they have been in the Port of Long Beach. My question is why would they be in Long Beach? These sets are not coming from Japan, they're coming from Penn. The last time i checked there is no ocean in Pennsylvania.
post #164 of 14269
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Originally Posted by bill175 View Post

lol 431/2 in tall, sorry, im kinda preoccupied

I thought that was kinda high, now I've gotta measure the interiors to see if the set will fit. Thanks again.
post #165 of 14269
Are any of you owners adding a "backlight" or other light source behind your SXRD to soften the picture? If so, how are you doing it - what might you be using? Thanks!
post #166 of 14269
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Originally Posted by lipcrkr View Post

Bill, the CC in Culver City, Ca. is claiming they haven't hit the store yet because they have been in the Port of Long Beach. My question is why would they be in Long Beach? These sets are not coming from Japan, they're coming from Penn. The last time i checked there is no ocean in Pennsylvania.


As far as I know they are all coming from Pennsylvania. I did get mine and am loving it thus far. Being a non pro I don't want to give a review that doesn't mean much. I must say though, I had a Mits 1080p before this and this is blowing it away IMO. I'm going through my HD DVDs and it is really nice.
post #167 of 14269
In stock at the "fieldcrutch"....basic MSRP, but still in stock nonetheless...
post #168 of 14269
[quote=bill175]
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Originally Posted by AVBill View Post

I also have a unique measuring request. How far does the extreme back of the cabinet jut out from where the exhaust fan in back is (next to the HDMI inputs)? Another way of saying the same question is: if I pushed the back of the TV flush against the wall, what is the distance between the fan (next to the HDMI cables) and the wall (fyi... I'm not planning on pushing the TV right up against the wall).


About 2 inches. The manual says the set requires 4 inches from the extreme back of the set. The fan area actually sticks out a little thus decreasing the distance.

Can you tell me which direction the fan is moving the air. Does it push air out the back or does it bring air in from the back and into the tv? This effects the design of my built-in ventilation requirements.

Thanks.
post #169 of 14269
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Originally Posted by bill175 View Post

As far as I know they are all coming from Pennsylvania. I did get mine and am loving it thus far. Being a non pro I don't want to give a review that doesn't mean much. I must say though, I had a Mits 1080p before this and this is blowing it away IMO. I'm going through my HD DVDs and it is really nice.

Bill, when you first turn on the TV are there any unusual occurances happening?
post #170 of 14269
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As far as I know they are all coming from Pennsylvania.

All of the SXRD TVs are made in Mount Pleasant, PA, just outside of Pittsburg. The XBR1s were made there as well, and the A2000s are now being made there in the same production lines. I suspect that the XBR2 SXRD will be made there as well, but only time will tell. If someone is telling you that these are on a boat, then they don't have a clue.
post #171 of 14269
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Originally Posted by bill175 View Post

As far as I know they are all coming from Pennsylvania. I did get mine and am loving it thus far. Being a non pro I don't want to give a review that doesn't mean much. I must say though, I had a Mits 1080p before this and this is blowing it away IMO. I'm going through my HD DVDs and it is really nice.

That's of particular interest. Which Mits 1080p did you have? Is it one of the ones that failed the bob test? Is the image from the HD DVD player noticably sharper?
post #172 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Longhorn69 View Post

For those of you looking to pair an A2000 with a VP30, are you concerned about the VP30's 1080i de-interlacing? My first thought when I read all of the DRCv1 vs. DRCv2 stuff was that a VP30 would be good solution. But then I read the following in the review from Secrets of HT and Hi-Fi:

Like the iScan HD+, the VP30 does not do full 1080i de-interlacing, although it will do bob/weave for 1080i.

So have any VP30 owners used it on a 1080p display? If so how did fair? I guess it could still perform better than the A2000.


For the A2000 owner's Thanks for the info, please keep it coming.

I am aware of this on the VP-30.The next generation will properly deinterlace 1080i. However 1 step at a time.

I wanted the upgrade on the display nowand will go to VP-?? later. I am replacing a 2 year old JVC 720P and I am hoping for an obvious improvement but these old eyes may not see any difference. I will be able to switch quickly from 720P to1080i to 1080P out and see if there is any real difference to me.

If the A2000 does a better job deinterlacing I can output 1080i from the VP-30. I suspect the differences are measureable but not visible to most of us-but we will see.
post #173 of 14269
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Originally Posted by bill175 View Post

As far as I know they are all coming from Pennsylvania. I did get mine and am loving it thus far. Being a non pro I don't want to give a review that doesn't mean much. I must say though, I had a Mits 1080p before this and this is blowing it away IMO. I'm going through my HD DVDs and it is really nice.

Its nice to see someone has had time to actually watch something with all the questions.
You may not be a pro but you do have eyes and what you see is most important. I respect the pros opinions and that is why I read them but they often get way too fine for me.
post #174 of 14269
I noticed that the new a2000 sxrd only has 1 optical digital audio out, wondering why that is? I've heard some installers saying that if your building a in-the-wall set-up, they would take a 30' Digital co-ax over a optical digital cable, wondering why they did not offer both? Also I did not see anything in the manual about the cable card? Thanks for the feed-back.
post #175 of 14269
The a2000 doesn't have a cable card slot.
post #176 of 14269
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Originally Posted by fade23 View Post

That's of particular interest. Which Mits 1080p did you have? Is it one of the ones that failed the bob test? Is the image from the HD DVD player noticably sharper?

I believe he had the WD-57731 model, the new one. I remember him saying he saw many rainbows and because this model doesn't have "dark detailer" it lacked somewhat in shadow detail. But i believe his reason was he saw too many rainbows.
post #177 of 14269
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Originally Posted by bill175 View Post

As far as I know they are all coming from Pennsylvania. I did get mine and am loving it thus far. Being a non pro I don't want to give a review that doesn't mean much. I must say though, I had a Mits 1080p before this and this is blowing it away IMO. I'm going through my HD DVDs and it is really nice.

thanks for all the info. Don't hesitate to post what you feel about the set. While everyone want the empirical measurements, your subjective opinion is also valuable as well. As much as AV is a science, it all comes down to how you feel about it. I am, and i think others are, as interested in the lack of buyer's remorse as i am in the details about de-interlacing 1080i

thanks
post #178 of 14269
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Originally Posted by uhphikap View Post

All of the SXRD TVs are made in Mount Pleasant, PA, just outside of Pittsburg. The XBR1s were made there as well, and the A2000s are now being made there in the same production lines. I suspect that the XBR2 SXRD will be made there as well, but only time will tell. If someone is telling you that these are on a boat, then they don't have a clue.

I


One week ago, I purchased a 60" XBR1 @ BB. The manufactured date is 05/2006 and it has the Green Blob issue. I didn't see it in the stores before but now that I know what to look for I can see it on the display models in my local BB's and CC's. I love the TV, but I am going to return it in a couple weeks. I am not willing to spend $4k on a TV with a green blob on the screen.

I'm hoping that the A2000 will have this issue resolved, but knowing they are being made in the same production lines where my TV was manufactured only 2 months ago doesn't seem very promising.

New Owners, the green blob (haze, tint, whatever) shows up best on a grey screen. Try finding something that will display one (I used my BrightHouse HDDVR box) and see if the screen is the same shade of grey all over. If you can't find a grey screen source then try a Black & White movie eg. Sin City.
post #179 of 14269
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Originally Posted by uhphikap View Post

All of the SXRD TVs are made in Mount Pleasant, PA, just outside of Pittsburg. The XBR1s were made there as well, and the A2000s are now being made there in the same production lines. I suspect that the XBR2 SXRD will be made there as well, but only time will tell. If someone is telling you that these are on a boat, then they don't have a clue.

Yeah, they're being made in the Pittsburgh metro but that is NOT a good thing. Just hope they knew what they were doing this time around and don't do the green blob again. I'm from that general area of the country and I'd trust Japanese electronics over stuff made by Western Pennsylvanians any day. Of course I drive a Toyota b/c I don't trust American cars either so I'm severely biased.
post #180 of 14269
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Originally Posted by fade23 View Post

That's of particular interest. Which Mits 1080p did you have? Is it one of the ones that failed the bob test? Is the image from the HD DVD player noticably sharper?

I had a 52628 that I bought last September before the SXRD came out. It was one that did not pass the bob test(it's brother w identical processing). Without comparison, it was hard to tell that it was throwing away resolution. I sold that TV and had a Sammy 5688 for 2 days and just didn't like it. Geometry problems (uneven 4:3 and wide screen 2:35)not with this sony)and the color to me was just too much(cartoonish). I tweaked to the specs someone had suggested and still didn't like it. This set looks great. A big difference I see with this from the Mits is the beutiful color reproduction this set does. I do see better shadow detail. I watched several of my HD DVD movies on the Mits before I sold it(about three weeks ago), and I am noticing things on the Sony I didn't on the Mits. That being said, this TV is also a lot bigger.
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