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post #5641 of 14227
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Originally Posted by vickstv View Post

I am watching HD through OTA digital local channels. The "display" always shows the input as 720p or 1080i (depending on the channel), although it's obvious that the the pogramming is not always in HD. This is especially true while watching daytime programs (e.g. this Saturday morning) - it's a SD broadcast however the display still shows 720p or 1080i.

Is there another way to accurately tell what the source input is?

I think the station is upconverting non 720p or 1080i content prior to broadcasting.

The best way to tell what the source resolution is for OTA is to determine whether or not it looks like crap. If it looks like crap and is 4:3, it is probably 480i / NTSC. If it is 16:9 and looks really good, it is probably 720p or 1080i .
post #5642 of 14227
Just got my 50A2000 today. HDTV PQ is great but standard definition analog cable looks horrible. I am not using a digital cable box since I can get all my HDTV stations without it. Picture is blurry and it sort of looks "cloudy" as if color is moving around on the screen. Don't really know how to describe it. I know this is a long thread so I assume someone must have made comments on Standard def PQ. Perhaps I need to tweak the settings somehow. Anyone with a similar experience?
- Marshall
post #5643 of 14227
I thought the A2000 was the only true 1080p set, what is the deal with the Samsung "Cinema Smooth"? I'm getting mixed signals all over-
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cinemasmooth is just another name for wobulation
post #5645 of 14227
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Originally Posted by bgall View Post

cinemasmooth is just another name for wobulation

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...&page_number=3

Some people claim that they can see constant movement of the pixels due to wobulation if you get up really close to the TV, but I can see roughly the same thing on many non-wobulated sets. Given the high speed of wobulation, I think it is a perfectly acceptable technology. I would expect to see it used as a way in the future to keep moving resolutions beyond 1080p without much more incremental cost for sets based on DLP.

If the DLPs didn't have that stupid rainbow effect that I'm susceptible to, I might have chosen one. We'll have to see what the next few years bring us with the LED based sets. That said, I'm quite happy with my A2000.
post #5646 of 14227
Hope this isn't too off topic, but since I've got the A2000 I thought this might be ok to post. In addition to the A2000, I've got a Yamaha HTR series receiver, and the Xbox 360. My wife is going nuts with all the remotes and wants me to simplify. Given this setup, what Harmony remote would people recommend? Is the Xbox 360 Harmony remote decent or should I go with a different remote? Any non-harmony remotes that work well with the A2000?
post #5647 of 14227
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Originally Posted by mkoven View Post

Just got my 50A2000 today. HDTV PQ is great but standard definition analog cable looks horrible. I am not using a digital cable box since I can get all my HDTV stations without it. Picture is blurry and it sort of looks "cloudy" as if color is moving around on the screen. Don't really know how to describe it. I know this is a long thread so I assume someone must have made comments on Standard def PQ. Perhaps I need to tweak the settings somehow. Anyone with a similar experience?
- Marshall

Go to cnet and look up the review on the 60" version. They share their settings. Also go to the DRC palette and move the little ball to the top right corner. Adjust from there to your liking. It improved my SD PQ.
post #5648 of 14227
Hi to all and thanks for all of the good stuff I've read in this thread over the past several months.

I've had the 60" A2000 for two weeks. It truly is great. I live in California in an area served by Charter Cable. We get NBC, CBS, Fox, HBO, and a couple of others in high def. They are great. We get dozens and dozens of non-high def and they all look great as well. The high def channels fill the screen, the non do not (that is not a complaint) If I wide zoom the non's everyone looks like they need to go on a diet.

I have an inexpensive Toshiba DVD connected using a HDMI cable and that works well also. The sound is pushed through a Yamaha HTR 5760. The Yamaha is connected to a Polk SoundBar and a Polk 12" sub-woofer. I know the purists may cast dispersions on the SoundBar, but through the wall and ceiling and/or under the rug wiring was out-of-the-questions, and I have a hearing loss in my right ear which decrease my need for "true" surround sound.

So far I really like this Sony.

At some time during the summer of 2005 I decided to start look at big-screens. First I, as many of you, went through plasma vs projection, and then on to which projection. That's where I really thought I'd go nuts. I went from Sony to the Mitsubishi, to the Toshiba, and then back to Sony. I did not really like the Sony because of the side speakers and then heard that Sony would have a new TV after the first of the year with speakers on the bottom. I decided to wait. I've lurked around here and then saw the "official" thread for the A2000. I've read most of the postings here.

So, here's the deal.

The Sony sits on the real Sony stand.

There's an aging Panasonic VCR connected to it, a Toshiba DVD, and a Charter Cable Box/DVR combo as well.

I've listed the Yamaha receiver and the Polks.

That's about it.

Thank you to all of you who have posted your comments and insights here, and for sharing your experience and expertise.

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post #5649 of 14227
So after I purchased my 50" A2000, I hooked up DVD player and it's outputting at 480i, (argh). I realize it's just a crappy dvd player and this is probably the wrong place to ask, but is it possible to get a 720p or 1080p dvd player for under $250? Or what exactly should I look for? Just an upconversion one? Not the video expert here so any help would be appreciated. Just PM me if you would like. Thanks.
post #5650 of 14227
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Originally Posted by bonse View Post

So after I purchased my 50" A2000, I hooked up DVD player and it's outputting at 480i, (argh). I realize it's just a crappy dvd player and this is probably the wrong place to ask, but is it possible to get a 720p or 1080p dvd player for under $250? Or what exactly should I look for? Just an upconversion one? Not the video expert here so any help would be appreciated. Just PM me if you would like. Thanks.

You only need a player that will convert to 480p - your set will up convert to 1080P - you have to decide if the Sony set does a better job than the cheap DVD players.

suggest you look at the Opps if you still want a new DVD Player that is cheap: http://www.oppodigital.com/products.asp
post #5651 of 14227
Sorry if this has been discussed, but I was wondering if anyone has achieved 1:1 pixel mapping via the HDMI port from a DVI graphics card?
post #5652 of 14227
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Originally Posted by bonse View Post

So after I purchased my 50" A2000, I hooked up DVD player and it's outputting at 480i, (argh). I realize it's just a crappy dvd player and this is probably the wrong place to ask, but is it possible to get a 720p or 1080p dvd player for under $250? Or what exactly should I look for? Just an upconversion one? Not the video expert here so any help would be appreciated. Just PM me if you would like. Thanks.

I'm really happy with the Sony DVP-NS75H with HDMI cable. Excellent PQ for about $130.
post #5653 of 14227
Ok... so, I have a green blob and some greenness around the edges that goes away after the set warms up. See here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...21#post8476121

Well, tonight we watched a movie and turned the lights down really low. I felt that the iris needed to go to min so that the TV didn't blind us. About 2/3 the way through the movie, I started noticing green undertones in the shadows on the movie. After the movie was over, I jumped to the auto program screen and sure enough the green blob and the green on the edges was visible. I turned the Iris back to auto 2 and about 10 minutes later the green had mostly faded away again.

Apparently, without the iris being open wide enough the LCOS chips must cool down enough to bring back the greenness... I am so disappointed right now. My wife was actually pretty much furious and declared that she "hates this stupid TV".

I need some serious, non-fanboy advice.

1) Keep the TV and live with it... ignore the green when it is there.
2) Go for yet ANOTHER exchange.
3) Say to h*** with SXRD and move on.

As a side noob question. If I get an ISF calibration, will I lose all my settings the first time the TV loses power or will it save the settings the ISF guys do?
post #5654 of 14227
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Originally Posted by TTFORUM View Post

Ok... so, I have a green blob and some greenness around the edges that goes away after the set warms up. See here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...21#post8476121

Well, tonight we watched a movie and turned the lights down really low. I felt that the iris needed to go to min so that the TV didn't blind us. About 2/3 the way through the movie, I started noticing green undertones in the shadows on the movie. After the movie was over, I jumped to the auto program screen and sure enough the green blob and the green on the edges was visible. I turned the Iris back to auto 2 and about 10 minutes later the green had mostly faded away again.

Apparently, without the iris being open wide enough the LCOS chips must cool down enough to bring back the greenness... I am so disappointed right now. My wife was actually pretty much furious and declared that she "hates this stupid TV".

I need some serious, non-fanboy advice.

1) Keep the TV and live with it... ignore the green when it is there.
2) Go for yet ANOTHER exchange.
3) Say to h*** with SXRD and move on.

As a side noob question. If I get an ISF calibration, will I lose all my settings the first time the TV loses power or will it save the settings the ISF guys do?

I just picked up the 55A2000 and I'm very disappointed. Not because of the green blob, I haven't seen it and I have been hard pressed to notice any purple tinted blacks. But the softness of the picture, SSE and the motion blur, judder, stutter or whatever you want to call is very distracting. I can't wait until the store opens in the morning so I schedule and exchange, this TV is unacceptable right now. I just don't understand how folks can be so blown away by this set.

I don't know what possessed me to purchase the A2000, the warning signs were everywhere, particularly umr who said the processing in the A2000 is really subpar.

I guess curiosity killed the cat.
post #5655 of 14227
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

I just picked up the 55A2000 and I'm very disappointed. Not because of the green blob, I haven't seen it and I have been hard pressed to notice any purple tinted blacks. But the softness of the picture, SSE and the motion blur, judder, stutter or whatever you want to call is very distracting. I can't wait until the store opens in the morning so I schedule and exchange, this TV is unacceptable right now. I just don't understand how folks can be so blown away by this set.

I don't know what possessed me to purchase the A2000, the warning signs were all there, particularly umr who said the processing in the A2000 is really subpar.

I guess curiosity killed the cat.

HaHA man you are a trip... LOL. One minute you have a 50xbr then an A2000 at the same time, then a JVC then a Mits. Stop coming around and lying about these TV's. You must need a life man or you work for a one of the TV companies'. Now you just picked up a Sony? Didn't you say you brought one back and it had bad blacks, then you say you just picked up one again and going to exchange it for a XBR2. Then you say it sucks for SSE and it has judder, stutter and motion blur. You are sure working hard so any newbie's that are looking for a TV would read your stuff and would not even go to the store and look at the TV, and just go on your word (Bad Info). You work for a big electronics company or you are just that dumb with no life. I am here to read about all brands, learn the good and bad and then make up my mind, but why does everyone have to hear your crap and lies.

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post #5656 of 14227
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HaHA man you are a trip... LOL. One minute you have a 50xbr then an A2000 at the same time, then a JVC then a Mits.

Yes I did have all of those TV's and they all had a flaw that I did not like.

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Stop coming around and lying about these TV's.

I'm not lying

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You must need a life man or you work for a one of the TV companies'

No I don't work for a TV company.

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. Now you just picked up a Sony? Didn't you say you brought one back and it had bad blacks

I just picked up the 55A2000, returned the XBR1's which was almost six months ago.

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, then you say you just picked up one again and going to exchange it for a XBR2. Then you say it sucks for SSE and it has judder, stutter and motion blur.

I did pick up one and the motion blur, SSE and soft picture is bad. I'm suffering serious buyers remorse right now. Yes, bad things do happen to good people

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You are sure working hard so any newbie's that are looking for a TV would read your stuff and would not even go to the store and look at the TV, and just go on your word (Bad Info).

I'm not trying to confuse a newbie and I'm just sharing my thoughts.

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You work for a big electronics company or you are just that dumb with no life. I am here to read about all brands, learn the good and bad and then make up my mind, but why does everyone have to hear your crap and lies.

You can say what you want to say about me, but thing people know about me around here, even the folks that don't like me, I don't lie about owning sets.
post #5657 of 14227
Help deciding between brand new 50a2000 and Panasonic TH-50PX60U Plasma
Hi;

I am a newbie at both HD technology and 2K+ for a TV purchase. I am a female with quite some interest in technology, but without the means to afford a major purchase until quite recently. I did significant research within this forum and others in the website.

I got my unit at BB over Labor Day for $2,249 as I asked them to match CC holiday sale price. I connected HD DIRECTV and purchased a home theater box Panasonic SC-HT940, and all the required Monster HDMI cables and Power conditioner/surge protector. Magnolia did the set up, so I have the peace of mind that it's not a cabling issue.

I have not seen any Green glob or anything specifically wrong with the unit, but I am not awed with the picture just yet. The only channels were I could get a significant increase in PQ its on HD channels. When I watch HD channels I do get a crisp, vivid image most of the time, but I do seem to notice that the image kind of fades away on specific areas, lets say like when I am watching a face.

MY QUESYION IS:


This last week I noticed Panasonic TH-50PX60U Plasma has significantly dropped its price.
Should it be an exchange I should consider before my 30 day are over? I do know the Pannie does not offer 1080p, at least not this model, (there is no news as to when their new 1080p plasma will arrive to the US), but my understanding even with an 1080p unit, if I don't have an HD DVD/receiver I will no be able to enjoy this TV at its fullest capability, am I right? So Bottom line what makes owners like you decide keeping a RP instead of a Plasma since they have dropped their pricing? Is it the 1080p or just the Sony brand?

I will certainly appreciate all your comments provided as I have saved a lot to be able to purchase something like this, and I am not able to exchange year after year my main set.

Thanks.
post #5658 of 14227
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

I just picked up the 55A2000 and I'm very disappointed. Not because of the green blob, I haven't seen it and I have been hard pressed to notice any purple tinted blacks. But the softness of the picture, SSE and the motion blur, judder, stutter or whatever you want to call is very distracting. I can't wait until the store opens in the morning so I schedule and exchange, this TV is unacceptable right now. I just don't understand how folks can be so blown away by this set.

I don't know what possessed me to purchase the A2000, the warning signs were everywhere, particularly umr who said the processing in the A2000 is really subpar.

I guess curiosity killed the cat.

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post #5659 of 14227
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Originally Posted by auxili View Post

I'm really happy with the Sony DVP-NS75H with HDMI cable. Excellent PQ for about $130.

Sorry getting off topic, but just for a second. How does a HDMI connection work from the DVD player to the TV if you have surround sound speakers? I'm guessing I would need a receiver that had an HDMI input in order to use my surrond sound?
post #5660 of 14227
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

Yes I did have all of those TV's and they all had a flaw that I did not like.

I'm not lying

No I don't work for a TV company.

I just picked up the 55A2000, returned the XBR1's which was almost six months ago.

I did pick up one and the motion blur, SSE and soft picture is bad. I'm suffering serious buyers remorse right now. Yes, bad things do happen to good people

I'm not trying to confuse a newbie and I'm just sharing my thoughts.

You can say what you want to say about me, but thing people know about me around here, even the folks that don't like me, I don't lie about owning sets.

NOTICE: This is a standard disclaimer alerting you to the fact that the post quoted above was made by a well-known Sony-hater and board-dominator. While he is free to post what he likes, many of us advise you to ignore what he says. We especially ask that you do not follow-up to his posts, as he enjoys getting in long-winded arguments about bogus issues and distracting from the general discussion. It is a free country, and you can trust his stories if you wish to, but we strongly advise you to completely ignore this poster. We also ask that you do not post replies to his messages.
post #5661 of 14227
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Originally Posted by rcavictor1956 View Post

I have one of the original Zenith players which early on upconverted to 1080i via component. Once I receive my 60a2000 Monday, I will most likely continue to use this connection until I purchase another player in the future which at that point will most likely be a high def player. I will try this connection if possible this week. I will see if my cable guy has an hdmi to dvi adapter when he comes Monday morning.

Me too. It plays fine upconverting via component. I tried an hdmi adapter cord and it locks up, so it looks like I'll have to get something else to replace it if I can't figure out how to get it to work.

Good luck...
post #5662 of 14227
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Originally Posted by bonse View Post

Sorry getting off topic, but just for a second. How does a HDMI connection work from the DVD player to the TV if you have surround sound speakers? I'm guessing I would need a receiver that had an HDMI input in order to use my surrond sound?

I have the Sony n75 too. I bought it to replace a 9 yr old Sony 330 when I bought the 55A2000 as a slight step up until hd dvd/blu ray technology congeals. I have a Denon AVR 3801 without HDMI. I run the hdmi from the DVD player to the TV and an optical digital output from the DVD player to the Denon. Works fine. Also run a digital out put from the SA8300HD stb to the Denon with the HDMI from the stb to the tv.
post #5663 of 14227
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

I just picked up the 55A2000 and I'm very disappointed. Not because of the green blob, I haven't seen it and I have been hard pressed to notice any purple tinted blacks. But the softness of the picture, SSE and the motion blur, judder, stutter or whatever you want to call is very distracting. I can't wait until the store opens in the morning so I schedule and exchange, this TV is unacceptable right now. I just don't understand how folks can be so blown away by this set.

I don't know what possessed me to purchase the A2000, the warning signs were everywhere, particularly umr who said the processing in the A2000 is really subpar.

I guess curiosity killed the cat.

The reasons you give are things that you would have noticed in the stores you went to. You would not purchase the set if you felt it was soft, had SSE and motion blur after viewing it in the store, would you?
post #5664 of 14227
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Originally Posted by stevemilleresq View Post

Me too. It plays fine upconverting via component. I tried an hdmi adapter cord and it locks up, so it looks like I'll have to get something else to replace it if I can't figure out how to get it to work.

Good luck...

It has been awhile since I kept track of the old Zenith 318 threads....but if I remember correctly....you are better off using the component connection for your upconversion. People were complaining about something they were calling "white crush" when using the DVI output on the 318.
post #5665 of 14227
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Originally Posted by pwiss View Post

The reasons you give are things that you would have noticed in the stores you went to. You would not purchase the set if you felt it was soft, had SSE and motion blur after viewing it in the store, would you?

excatly - are people just turning the set on and expecting to be perfect? - my set is perfect after adjusting. spend some time with it - the 2000's are the best picture at the best value - the only things that i am a little sad over are - no 1.3 and not full hd vga - other then that, this set is great.
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Originally Posted by HDTV5.1 View Post

excatly - are people just turning the set on and expecting to be perfect? - my set is perfect after adjusting. spend some time with it - the 2000's are the best picture at the best value - the only things that i am a little sad over are - no 1.3 and not full hd vga - other then that, this set is great.

What you say is true all TV's. I'm sure your tweak SXRD picture is better than what I noticed last night on my SXRD. Actually, picture wasn't that bad. Yes it was soft, softness and SSE was too much for me. I after getting used to plasma and going back RPTV, it found SSE to be objectionable.

Today I picked up a Panny Plasma and picture is wonderful and that's with very tweaks.
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Originally Posted by pwiss View Post

The reasons you give are things that you would have noticed in the stores you went to. You would not purchase the set if you felt it was soft, had SSE and motion blur after viewing it in the store, would you?

Some times you can't tell in the store. I always expect the set look better at home than in the store.
post #5668 of 14227
There's a review of the 60A2000 in this month's Home Theater Magazine. They talk about having to adjust the DRC, Edge Enhancers to get it to look right. And they talk about the color points are oversaturated. (Nothing a ISF cal won't fix) Like any display, you have to tweek it a bit.
post #5669 of 14227
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Originally Posted by eric.exe View Post

Sorry if this has been discussed, but I was wondering if anyone has achieved 1:1 pixel mapping via the HDMI port from a DVI graphics card?

Sorry to bump my own question but I need an answer as soon as possible.

Thank you.
post #5670 of 14227
Need some more expertise regarding my 50" A2000 and a progressive scan DVD player. I have a Samsung Pscan DVD player going straight into the back of my tv via component cables. When I play a movie, it says the current output is only 480p. Is there any settings I need to change on the tv for it to upconvert to 720p or 1080i? The only setting for the DVD player is to either turn on progr. scan or keep it off, no other settings can be tweaked. Do I need a new upconvert DVD player? I was under the assumption that the tv would automatically upconvert the 480p signal to 720 or 1080i.
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