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post #6061 of 14269
I just received my 60-a2000 today. Dish Network is installing my HD on Monday. In the meantime I have a dish dvr with an s-video output. Can anyone recommend any settings to make my sd look good until I get my hd on Monday?
post #6062 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Gassy Man View Post

Thanks for teh feedback, Alan. Since I see XBR2 and A2000 coming up a lot, which of these two TVs would you say is the "better"?

No doubt the XBR2 is 'better'. It is also pricier. Do you need cable card or picture in picture? Do you prefer the slimmer cabinet of the A-2000, or the wider design on the XBR2? As for PQ, there probably is not a 'lot' of difference. The XBR2 might do standard def a bit better. Mostly splitting hairs though IMHO. My theory is don't buy top-of-the-line if you can avoid it. These things are evolving rapidly, and prices are falling rapidly. I feel the A-2000 is the sweet spot of performance vs. cost.
post #6063 of 14269
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Originally Posted by astro777 View Post

I have what looks like a large speck of dust on the inside of my KDS60A2000's screen. It is possibly a series of burnt pixels, but the shape/texture of it looks like a little black fiber. It's visible against a uniform color background from 12 feet or so, but hard to notice during regular programming.

What are my options? It's definitely w/in the 30 day return window, and I have a Sony's warranty, etc., but I purchased directly from sonystyle.com, so a return would probably mean I have to fork out shipping costs.

Can these dust particles be removed safely/easily by a tech? I vaguely remember someone mentioning a similar problem, on the A2K or another set, and I think he was warned not to let a tech open up the screen (because of the potential for negligent repair).

What do you guys think? Seems like we all become pseudo-perfectionists with these expensive sets. (Other than the dust, I love this set--picture and geometry is fantastic.)

I'll trade your dust speck set for my pink and green haze model. Seriously if your set has good unifomity, don't even think of exchanging it! Live with the speck, or have it cleaned.
post #6064 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Jren View Post

I just received my 60-a2000 today. Dish Network is installing my HD on Monday. In the meantime I have a dish dvr with an s-video output. Can anyone recommend any settings to make my sd look good until I get my hd on Monday?

I suggest you watch DVD's as much as possible,and wait till monday. Standard Def Dish Network via S video is NOT going to look very good on your 60 inch HDTV. Sorry to burst your bubble. Also, anychance you can pick up over the air HD signals via antenna? That would give you a great picture if you can receive it.
post #6065 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Badgerst View Post

any happy 360 gamers using the 50a2000?

Yep, I play the 360 on it and am very happy with the results. I switched between 720p and 1080i a few times and settled on 720p... thought I can't really say why. Check out this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=684899
post #6066 of 14269
i'm playing the 360 on the 60a2000. i have found 720p output the best as well. fast games such as hockey games seemed to look better in 720p (smoother i guess).
post #6067 of 14269
anyway to view video's from a pc on this screen? i connected my laptop to the vga input, and when i try to view videos with wmp i get a blackedout screen, i guess for movie piracy issues? any settings, codecs, or players I need to remedy this?
post #6068 of 14269
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

No doubt the XBR2 is 'better'. It is also pricier. Do you need cable card or picture in picture? Do you prefer the slimmer cabinet of the A-2000, or the wider design on the XBR2? As for PQ, there probably is not a 'lot' of difference. The XBR2 might do standard def a bit better. Mostly splitting hairs though IMHO. My theory is don't buy top-of-the-line if you can avoid it. These things are evolving rapidly, and prices are falling rapidly. I feel the A-2000 is the sweet spot of performance vs. cost.

its still early to tell, but one reason that might make sense to spend more $$ for the xbr2 is that,with a different hd engine than the a2000s, so far there have been no reports of color haze, blobs, or uniformitiy issues with the xbr2s. as we all know, these problems have manifested to some extent with the a2000s.
post #6069 of 14269
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

its still early to tell, but one reason that might make sense to spend more $$ for the xbr2 is that,with a different hd engine than the a2000s, so far there have been no reports of color haze, blobs, or uniformitiy issues with the xbr2s. as we all know, these problems have manifested to some extent with the a2000s.

Though the optical block assemblies have different part numbers, the specs are the same - so there is no reason to conclude that the optical block is different. When Sony refers to the HD engine (Wega engine), they have in the past been talking about the scaling/signal processing technology - not the optics block. That engine (DRCv1 vs DRCv2.5) is different.

It's probably too early to conclude that the blob is not present on the XBR2. These issues were also there with XBR1s.
post #6070 of 14269
It has been reported that the xxA2000 series do NOT inverse telecine properly.
See here.
post #6071 of 14269
[quote=Feirstein]Just to set the record streight on some often mentioned technical issues:

1. Current DVD's are 480i storage media. A player can output this as analog composite, component or S-Video. Some newer players can also output this as 480i digital with either a DVI (video only), or HDMI (video only or sometimes as digital video and audio).

Some players can take the mastered interlaced source material and through digital processing output it as either 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i and even 1080p. Further digital processing can deal with 24 fps source material or 60 cps video source material so that it is properly displayed. No actual additional resolution is added during these digital minipulations. The A2000 does not have the best circuit for the conversion of 24 fps source material so a modern player with HDMI output and conversion circuits would be a priority purchase for those who can't get acceptable DVD reproduction on this set.

"

Ack ... this is getting confusing ... so My Denon 2910 should be set to 720p not 1080i for best results right ? It also handles 3/2 pulldown .. do I need to set this in the player and disable it in the TV ?

Thanks for the clarfication.
M
post #6072 of 14269
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Originally Posted by DSKTexas View Post

It has been reported that the xxA2000 series do NOT inverse telecine properly.
See here.

We have known since the cnet and the other video mag review.

plus: also this has been fixed in the service menu in the early builds and new build no service menu required

"The bandwidth test results were very interesting. Since I measured the sets, Sony claims to have made a production change in their latest 1080p rear projector (KDS-50A2000) to correct its failure in the test, which is a testament to the importance of full bandwidth in 1080p displays. With this modification, and after changes in the user menu of other Sony models (see chart), all of the 1080p sets passed, although all but one of them attenuated the pattern."
post #6073 of 14269
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Originally Posted by strutter View Post

y'all

Maybe he was asking about "all y'all". (That's what I'd want to know about ;-)
post #6074 of 14269
Okay, I just noticed something new today while walking past my set. Hoping someone can tell me if this is normal.

When standing up right next to the set and looking down at the picture, if there is text on screen I can basically see two sets of text. It's almost as if I'm seeing one right behind the other. Sitting down though it looks perfectly normal. Unfortunately I don't have a digital camera to show you this.

Anyway, is this normal and if not what would be wrong?
post #6075 of 14269
normal. XBR's too.
post #6076 of 14269
Has anyone quantified the effect of Clear White with any measurements?
post #6077 of 14269
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Originally Posted by FrankVP View Post

I searched but could not find an answer.
Once power is turned for A2000, how long till a pcture actually comes up on the screen.
Does it take a few minutes for the bulb to come up to full potential?

Well for my first post I can actually answer someones question, lol...it takes about 40 seconds for any picture to appear, I counted when reviewing these at the store. Ok, now comes what I am sure will be followed by many more, that is questions of course haha.

So my question is, if JVC passed all of those tests involving interlacing and inverse telecine (still confused what that means haha) properly, has anyone compared this tv's PQ to the a2000? If it is equal or same would this be the better tv to buy? What do they mean by menue fixes, that Sony has fixed one of these problems themselves or that the user can do so by menu settings? What exactly is it again that can be fixed through the menue? Sorry for all the noob questions.

Thanks!
post #6078 of 14269
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Originally Posted by dominica View Post

We have known since the cnet and the other video mag review.

plus: also this has been fixed in the service menu in the early builds and new build no service menu required

"The bandwidth test results were very interesting. Since I measured the sets, Sony claims to have made a production change in their latest 1080p rear projector (KDS-50A2000) to correct its failure in the test, which is a testament to the importance of full bandwidth in 1080p displays. With this modification, and after changes in the user menu of other Sony models (see chart), all of the 1080p sets passed, although all but one of them attenuated the pattern."

I was under the impression that inverse telecine and bandwidth are two completely different things. And yes I have burned some test patterns to HD DVD and my 50A2000 does resolve 1080 lines but if inverse telecine is not working properly some of the frames' resolution coming into the television will be reduce by half. I think this is especiall true during motion (i.e. pans). I just wish I had know this before I purchased this set.
post #6079 of 14269
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Originally Posted by DSKTexas View Post

It has been reported that the xxA2000 series do NOT inverse telecine properly.

How does this affect watching DVDs/HD in the real world?
Also, if I get a video processor in the future and feed the TV 1080p, will it do this process correctly?
post #6080 of 14269
Do the channel labels, autoprogram, and user menu settings get retained if the power goes out? I'm worried about unplugging my TV to do some re-arrangement of cables and don't want to lose everything.
post #6081 of 14269
A dumb question about universal remotes, like the Logitech 880.

I'm thinking of getting one. Can these units set the video source to the desired one, say Video 6, without knowing the current video setting on the KDS-A2000 series sets?
post #6082 of 14269
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Originally Posted by oldengineer View Post

A dumb question about universal remotes, like the Logitech 880.

I'm thinking of getting one. Can these units set the video source to the desired one, say Video 6, without knowing the current video setting on the KDS-A2000 series sets?

Absolutely!
post #6083 of 14269
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

No doubt the XBR2 is 'better'. It is also pricier. Do you need cable card or picture in picture? Do you prefer the slimmer cabinet of the A-2000, or the wider design on the XBR2? As for PQ, there probably is not a 'lot' of difference. The XBR2 might do standard def a bit better. Mostly splitting hairs though IMHO. My theory is don't buy top-of-the-line if you can avoid it. These things are evolving rapidly, and prices are falling rapidly. I feel the A-2000 is the sweet spot of performance vs. cost.

Thanks, again. One last question to you, Dave, or anyone else -- a conversation with a co-worker today about DLP HDTV's 60 inches or bigger netted this comment. "From a viewing distance of eight feet or more, you won't be able to tell the difference in picture quality between a 720p set and a 1080p set that size."

In other words, he suggested I buy a much less expensive 720p (or, he said, 1080i) set because at that screen size and with a viewing distance of about nine feet, I won't see any real difference in picture quality. Does that sound right? Should I save potentially thousands of dollars by going to a set with 720p or 1080i capability instead of 1080p? Again, I'll mostly be watching movies, with HD DVD the preferred format.
post #6084 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Gassy Man View Post

Thanks, again. One last question to you, Dave, or anyone else -- a conversation with a co-worker today about DLP HDTV's 60 inches or bigger netted this comment. "From a viewing distance of eight feet or more, you won't be able to tell the difference in picture quality between a 720p set and a 1080p set that size."

In other words, he suggested I buy a much less expensive 720p (or, he said, 1080i) set because at that screen size and with a viewing distance of about nine feet, I won't see any real difference in picture quality. Does that sound right? Should I save potentially thousands of dollars by going to a set with 720p or 1080i capability instead of 1080p? Again, I'll mostly be watching movies, with HD DVD the preferred format.

I would go for a 1080p set. There is not 'thousands of dollars' difference in price. My 60 A-2000 was only about five hundred more than the Sony 3LCD 60 inch, and has a far better picture (especially in dark scenes, and black level). You can get Toshiba 62 inch 1080p DLP's with stand for about 2,500 now, and I feel the 1080p DLP's look better than the 720p for sure. You will see a smoother, and more detailed picture on a 60 inch set with 1080p. On 50 inch and below the difference is probably less noticeable.
post #6085 of 14269
I agree with EVERYTHING Alan said. I think there are three other issues as well (2 + and one BIG -):
+ Smoother image: SXRD is noted by many as having a smoother image, less screen door effect (yes, DLP has that too).
+ No Rainbow Effect. Individuals sensitivity to this varies, but more insidious, is viewer fatigue that is also related to the use of flashing colors (generated by a color wheel or solid state light sources). That one is harder to quantify.
- Potential for "Green Blob". There is lots stated about this elsewhere. It is less of a problem than some would have you believe (there are many satisfied A2000 owners around). But one to be considered.
post #6086 of 14269
Thanks, fellas -- you guys are great. RE: Green blob. I'm getting the impression it's not as common to the SXRDs than the older XBRs -- sound right? I know it's kinda too soon in the game to know if the A2000s will be prone to it, but even scanning the board here, it seems like people are having less of a problem.

Sounds like the A2000 is the way to go. I was considering purchase online, as the prices are easily $400 cheaper than at the Best Buys and Circuit Citys. I know it's a risk with returning the item, but the brick and mortar places usually only give 30 days, and some charge a restocking fee. Any warnings on vendors to avoid?
post #6087 of 14269
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Originally Posted by davehancock View Post

+ Smoother image: SXRD is noted by many as having a smoother image, less screen door effect (yes, DLP has that too).

Is there a particular brand of DLP that has screen door effect? If I get up really close (inches) to my Samsung HL-S5066W, I can just barely detect it.

I was actually surprised at how much SDE there is on the Sony 50" A2000. I was expecting it to be virtually non-existant, like on DLP. It is significantly less than the E2000, but still noticeable from my viewing distance (8') if I look for it.
post #6088 of 14269
I have had the Sony 42" GW III for 3 years. I replaced it with the 50A2000. The A2000 is much brighter, colors show better and the SD channels are better which I love but I now see the SDE I never saw on the GWIII. I heard of this but just thought it was from sitting to close. Beside that the picture is amazing. I too sit 8 1/2 ' form the tv. Does this get better with burn in time or is that the way it is. Yea I read the argument of SDE with LCD and Rainbows with DLP.
post #6089 of 14269
I think SDE, like silk screen effect, is something that you get used to and eventually ignore.
post #6090 of 14269
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Originally Posted by TTFORUM View Post

Do the channel labels, autoprogram, and user menu settings get retained if the power goes out? I'm worried about unplugging my TV to do some re-arrangement of cables and don't want to lose everything.

I've lost power to mone and have not lost any settings. I believe the settings are kept in some kind of a non-volatile memory. There is a reset in the menu that will reset the settings back to factory default
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