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post #6871 of 14269
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Originally Posted by klewando View Post

I am psyched! I was able to get a a2000 at my comp usa store last night. Of course I had to wait in line for over an hour, but it was worth it. I also got a free x-box 360 core as part of the special. I am not a gamer but may become one.; does the x-box work with a sony?

also is it worth getting an extended warranty for this tv?

Thanks!

Kevin


I was also able to get the 60 in a2000 at compusa. I got the premium xbox360 by just paying 100 more!
post #6872 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Stephen Jackson View Post

I just bought a 60" A2000 this past week and after viewing several movies (sitting about 7" away) and getting use to the screen I started to notice more of what I think is called the silk screen effect (sse). Correct me if I'm wrong..... If I look closely at the screen with the tv off I can see the bumpy anti-glare coating. Is this what is causing the pearl like distortion on the screen? I've heard people talk about a shimmering effect related to sse but havent really noticed that. It's more of a texturing effect that is noticable on solid colors making them softer in appearance. I really like the A2000 other than this issue and would rather not return it but it is distracting and I tend to notice it now more than ever. Is there a way to clean this up a little bit? I've tried tweaking the contrast and black levels somewhat but it's still quite visible.

Thx for any help...
Stephen


Well for starters for a 60" HDTV displaying 1080i/1080p content you are sitting too close. You should be sitting 8.1/8.5 ft away. That should help a bit.



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Originally Posted by bokupixels View Post

your living the hell know as the sony green glob. . Its the defective sxrd technology that causes a green hazey coffee stain shape in the center of the screen that is present 100% of the time. Its called the green glob. Do a search on green glob and youll see the 1000s of posts of complaints. It cannot be repaired. Best thing is to return it and get something decent like the 2007 1080p dlps. As soon as the public wises up (of course the sony fanatics never do) sony will drop the technology and go to dlp and give the technology some fancy name to disguise the fact. Typical sony deception.


Typical. The thing is I have a green issue on my screen, but it goes away the second that the input it is on starts sending a signal. So example, I turn on the HD-DVD player and the input is on the HD-DVD player input.... the screen goes mostly green, then once the movie starts playing... even with a black screen 1 second later the green is gone.

SXRD is great. Despite the problems it sometimes has... its a GREAT TV.
post #6873 of 14269
My TVs production on the back says it is an August 2006 build.... does this mean that it has the 1080p bandwidth fix?

Reading this recent article:
http://www.hometheatermag.com/hookmeup//1106hook/

I see that this A2000 model HAD a problem with taking 1080p content. My PS3 and the Blu-Ray look amazing on this TV, like I said it is an August build... in the article it says anything after august... but how do I know!?
post #6874 of 14269
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Originally Posted by terminaldawn View Post

Has anyone hooked up their PC to this TV?

I cant get the picture to display full screen. I am setting my resolution to 1360 x 768 , however there are black borders on all sides no matter what resolution I try. I didnt have this issue on my JVC tv, so I was wondering what I am doing wrong with this TV. I also tried changing the zoom on the TV, etc..

Anyone that can help me I would MOST GRATEFUL!

Thanks!!!


I have a Media Center PC hooked up to my 60A2000. It has an ATI X800XT video card and I connect to the TV using component cables. The TV sees it as 720P After much experimenting, I found the best setting for the PC with this video card is 1152 x 648. It does have a narrow black border around the picture. With an ATI HD Wonder tuner card, I get a pretty good picture on the HD locals. The DirecTV HD boxes give a better picture.

GH
post #6875 of 14269
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Originally Posted by REFLEX View Post

My TVs production on the back says it is an August 2006 build.... does this mean that it has the 1080p bandwidth fix?

Reading this recent article:
http://www.hometheatermag.com/hookmeup//1106hook/

I see that this A2000 model HAD a problem with taking 1080p content. My PS3 and the Blu-Ray look amazing on this TV, like I said it is an August build... in the article it says anything after august... but how do I know!?


Im really excited about the ps3 and a2000 combo, but i dont have a ps3 and wont get one in awhile. Can you please post some pics of some bluray movies and games so i can have a glimpse of what its going to be like?

Thanks.
post #6876 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Groundhog45 View Post

I have a Media Center PC hooked up to my 60A2000. It has an ATI X800XT video card and I connect to the TV using component cables. The TV sees it as 720P After much experimenting, I found the best setting for the PC with this video card is 1152 x 648. It does have a narrow black border around the picture. With an ATI HD Wonder tuner card, I get a pretty good picture on the HD locals. The DirecTV HD boxes give a better picture.

GH

Groundhog45,
Are you using software (not ATI's driver) to achieve that resolution? Also, if you change inputs while the PC is on and then return to the PC input can you still see the PC desktop? I can't change inputs or else the TV drops the PC video signal. The only fix for me is restarting the computer. My problem may be an HDMI related issue. If you do not have the same issue over component then I'll investigate that option. Thanks.
post #6877 of 14269
I just put the following question in the "tweaks" thread and am wondering if anybody can help me here.

I've recently begun to notice a lot of "judder" on my 60" A2000. What can be done to reduce or correct this issue? Is it true that switching my sources to 720P output rather than 1080i will help improve the issue? I've done some searching in the threads and can't find a concrete solution. Thanks for your help!
post #6878 of 14269
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Originally Posted by misterjensen View Post

I just put the following question in the "tweaks" thread and am wondering if anybody can help me here.

I've recently begun to notice a lot of "judder" on my 60" A2000. What can be done to reduce or correct this issue? Is it true that switching my sources to 720P output rather than 1080i will help improve the issue? I've done some searching in the threads and can't find a concrete solution. Thanks for your help!

Check your connections because the A2000 is not the cause.
post #6879 of 14269
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Originally Posted by REFLEX View Post

My TVs production on the back says it is an August 2006 build.... does this mean that it has the 1080p bandwidth fix?

Reading this recent article:
http://www.hometheatermag.com/hookmeup//1106hook/

I see that this A2000 model HAD a problem with taking 1080p content. My PS3 and the Blu-Ray look amazing on this TV, like I said it is an August build... in the article it says anything after august... but how do I know!?

Do you have HDNET? Try looking at the final screen of their test pattern show that has the bandwidth test. That should let you know the max resolution you're getting...
post #6880 of 14269
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Originally Posted by jackie C View Post

Check your connections because the A2000 is not the cause.

It's not my connections (I've already checked them). I have an 8300 DVR set to 1080i and an XBOX 360 (now with HD-DVD attachment) set to 1080i; I've noticed on pans objects on the screen (usually bright objects) flicker or judder. Any other ideas anybody?
post #6881 of 14269
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Originally Posted by REFLEX View Post

Well for starters for a 60" HDTV displaying 1080i/1080p content you are sitting too close. You should be sitting 8.1/8.5 ft away. That should help a bit.

Well, I would do that except I would then be sitting in my dining area.. so thats not a solution. Thanks though. And why does it suggest a min of 7 ft in the manual if this is a known problem? Comparing the sse distortion with other RPTV's I found that I noticed it a lot more on the Sony SXRD technology. Just looking at the screen itself with no picture on, you can tell a difference of the smoothness on other non-sony screens. Is there any reason Sony would sacrifice picture quality (due to SSE) so much just to deal with glare?

Anyway, I'm now thinking of returning the A2000 (for a smaller size or something different all together) if I can't make it go away. The picture quality (w/o SSE) to me is way more important when I watch movies at night than watching anything in the day with glare.
post #6882 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Stephen Jackson View Post

Well, I would do that except I would then be sitting in my dining area.. so thats not a solution. Thanks though. And why does it suggest a min of 7 ft in the manual if this is a known problem? Comparing the sse distortion with other RPTV's I found that I noticed it a lot more on the Sony SXRD technology. Just looking at the screen itself with no picture on, you can tell a difference of the smoothness on other non-sony screens. Is there any reason Sony would sacrifice picture quality (due to SSE) so much just to deal with glare?

Anyway, I'm now thinking of returning the A2000 (for a smaller size or something different all together) if I can't make it go away. The picture quality (w/o SSE) to me is way more important when I watch movies at night than watching anything in the day with glare.

The A-2000 has LESS SSE than most other RPTV's I have seen including Toshiba, JVC, and Samsung. You are really sitting too close to a 60 inch screen in my opinion. If SSE bothers you a lot you better move on to a non-projection type tv.
post #6883 of 14269
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Originally Posted by ChromeZombiez
In the market for the KDS60A2000 model....Please PM me for information regarding good deals or contacts in the Cali bayarea.

Thx in advance.

BB in Redding, CA price matched Amazon's delivered price for me without blinking an eye.
post #6884 of 14269
mikeg00b ---

Lol. You have to be a employee of another manufacturer. Your statements are unfounded and false. Anyone can take a problem that a FEW have had and say its on all of the displays. However, you have absolutely no proof or facts to back up anything you say. In fact, I have already proved you wrong when you were spouting off on one your other screen names. All, of which, have been banned. Why? Because your statements are untrue. Please tell your employer to have you work on research and development of their own displays. Rather than try to bash as superior product.
post #6885 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Spidergames View Post

hey holtzd, Place the Gamma On max, then trun off the Black maker... U wont see that anymore !

I set the Gamma on max and re-adjusted the brightness. I also nocked down G-BIAS 2 notches. This has helped some but I think that some faces are still a little on the green side.

The more I read the more I think that if Sony replaced my set I would still have the same problem. I think this problem is present with all A2000 but since most of the time it looks great most people are not bothered by it.

Something else that erks me is that the price has dropped for this same set since I got mine. It is now 2 thirds of what I paid. Oh well.
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Originally Posted by codymacx View Post

Hello, a quick question. I bought this TV along with the XBOX 360 and the HD-dvd addon, what would be the best possible cable to buy to hook all this up?

Component or vga.
post #6888 of 14269
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

The A-2000 has LESS SSE than most other RPTV's I have seen including Toshiba, JVC, and Samsung. You are really sitting too close to a 60 inch screen in my opinion. If SSE bothers you a lot you better move on to a non-projection type tv.

Actually, I misjudged the distance away that I'm sitting. I'm around 9 ft away (not 7ft) and I can still see the SSE. Right now, I'm viewing all my dvds at 480p. Is it possible that the SSE will be less noticable with a higher def signal coming in like 720p or 1080i/p? I'm waiting for my Oppo 971 dvd player which upscales to the higher def to come in the mail so I still have hope for this TV.
post #6889 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Rare1 View Post

Component or vga.

Which one would give me the best 1080p quality?

Because the CNET review of this TV says quote

" one VGA-style PC input (1,366x768 maximum resolution, a disappointment for a 1080p HDTV "

and it tends to knock the VGA connection alot in the review.

Also, has someone posted a detailed settings report on this T.V? I'd like to get an idea of the best settings before i set it up.
post #6890 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Stephen Jackson View Post

Is it possible that the SSE will be less noticable with a higher def signal coming in like 720p or 1080i/p?

SSE is a "feature" in all RPTV screens. It's easier to see depending on the brightness of the image not the resolution of the image. You see it when your focus shifts from the content of the image to the screen where it is being projected.

If you can't stop yourself from switching focus it's going to drive you nuts.

In a case like that a direct view TV might be the only solution.

Good luck.
post #6891 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Stephen Jackson View Post

...Is it possible that the SSE will be less noticable with a higher def signal coming in like 720p or 1080i/p?...

It has more to do with characteristics inherent with the way the image is created in the display than the signal or source material. If taking it out of torch (Vivid) mode, turning on power save mode, selecting medium iris and setting the black and white levels correctly don't mitigate the problem enough for you, then you might want to consider a different display technology, such as direct-view LCD or plasma.

EDIT: Like htwaits said
post #6892 of 14269
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Originally Posted by roblim View Post

Groundhog45,
Are you using software (not ATI's driver) to achieve that resolution? Also, if you change inputs while the PC is on and then return to the PC input can you still see the PC desktop? I can't change inputs or else the TV drops the PC video signal. The only fix for me is restarting the computer. My problem may be an HDMI related issue. If you do not have the same issue over component then I'll investigate that option. Thanks.

I'm using ATIs MCE catelyst drivers, but not ATIs media control center or whatever they call it. They also have a plug-in to put ATI settings on the main MCE menu.

I leave the PC on all the time and it shows the desktop whenever I switch to that input on the TV. The only problem is that the PC doesn't like me booting the system without the TV being on and set to that input. Actually I haven't tried it in a while and it's possible that one of the roll-up patches from Microsoft may have cured that problem. Since it's on a UPS, it doesn't shutdown very often.
post #6893 of 14269
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Originally Posted by codymacx View Post

Which one would give me the best 1080p quality?

Because the CNET review of this TV says quote

" one VGA-style PC input (1,366x768 maximum resolution, a disappointment for a 1080p HDTV "

and it tends to knock the VGA connection alot in the review.

Also, has someone posted a detailed settings report on this T.V? I'd like to get an idea of the best settings before i set it up.

Component won't do 1080P on our tv and VGA needs a fix from microsoft before it can except it afaik.

But with the 360 I would not worry too much about 1080P, there is hardly any content.
post #6894 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Rare1 View Post

Component won't do 1080P on our tv and VGA needs a fix from microsoft before it can except it afaik.

But with the 360 I would not worry too much about 1080P, there is hardly any content.

Planned on adding the hd-dvd drive and would wonder if it would do the 1920x1080 via the VGA.
post #6895 of 14269
Does anyone know how to get surround sound home thater system working for this set, i bought a samsung 5.1 ht system and tried connecting it through wiht audio optical cables and i cannot get it to work on regular cable, mind that i dont have cable box and the cable is directly connected to it. I have tried the red and white cables to and i can only get the speakers to work for the home theater system it self i need it to work for my 360 and my regular tv

thanx in advance.
post #6896 of 14269
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Originally Posted by REFLEX View Post

My TVs production on the back says it is an August 2006 build.... does this mean that it has the 1080p bandwidth fix?

Reading this recent article:
http://www.hometheatermag.com/hookmeup//1106hook/

I see that this A2000 model HAD a problem with taking 1080p content. My PS3 and the Blu-Ray look amazing on this TV, like I said it is an August build... in the article it says anything after august... but how do I know!?

I recently bought the Key Digital iSync HD video processor through the AVS powerbuy to go with my sony A2000 and I'm very pleased with the results. It will input 1080i signal from your Blue Ray PS3 as well. The A2000 has the potential to display a great picture and always has for me with HD content for the most part, but using a video processor makes everything look great and even solves the problem of what people on this forum have described as soft standard definition picture. You can read my reviews in the video processor forum under Key Digital isync.
post #6897 of 14269
I'm planning on getting a Wii soon, if I can. I'm wondering how 480p will look upscaled on this set, because I heard that the A2000 doesn't display SD as good as its HD. Or am I just getting mixed up and paranoid...

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

SSE is a "feature" in all RPTV screens. It's easier to see depending on the brightness of the image not the resolution of the image. You see it when your focus shifts from the content of the image to the screen where it is being projected.

If you can't stop yourself from switching focus it's going to drive you nuts.

In a case like that a direct view TV might be the only solution.

Good luck.

Woah. Can you elaborate please? There's a way to stop seeing SSE by changing the way we view RPTV? Awsome. But I don't really get your explanation how..."focus shifts from the content of the image to the screen where it's being projected?" Aren't they the same thing?
post #6898 of 14269
I've taken steps to mitigate my perception of the "projected image" look (which may be why I've never perceived SSE with my setup), but one of the things that can draw focus is anything static that doesn't "pan with the scene." If you've ever noticed the screen texture in the projected image at the cinema, it's similar. Film grain is also at a similar, almost subliminal level, but the grain is uniformly random instead of static--yet it doesn't "pan with the scene."

To mitigate, lots of metaphors might apply, such as not being able to see the forest for the trees: try not to focus on the screen (trees) and take in the whole image (forest). But you won't be able to help it if the trees are hitting you over the head; setting the black and white levels correctly and perhaps using a bias light ("backlight") will help...
post #6899 of 14269
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Originally Posted by sittingducks View Post

I'm planning on getting a Wii soon, if I can.

What is a "Wii"?

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I'm wondering how 480p will look upscaled on this set, because I heard that the A2000 doesn't display SD as good as its HD. Or am I just getting mixed up and paranoid...

It's impossible for SD to look as good as HD so you are not paranoid, you just need a little more information.

For instance, the best source of SD material is mostly found on DVDs which store data at a 480i resolution. That means there is a lot less data available to create an image with SD material than there is with HD material.

A high quality DVD like The Fifth Element" displayed through "good" equipment will look almost as good as some HD material.

The quality of TV SD is much worse than the best SD DVD transfers.

The quality of HDTV varies from good to outstanding.

The quality of high definition DVDs will probably wind up providing the highest quality images for the foreseeable future.

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There's a way to stop seeing SSE by changing the way we view RPTV?

Put it this way. I don't notice SSE unless I'm looking for it. If my attention is focused on the movie or the TV program that I'm watching I never notice SSE.

If you are thinking about SSE you should be able to see it in any bright scene. If you are thinking about what you are watching you shouldn't be aware of SSE. At least that's what a lot of people report.
post #6900 of 14269
I've had the kds50a2000 for about 5 days now and I am frankly rather dejected at this point. The picture quality is great but the SSE is absolutely driving me bonkers. I don't know if it is just my unit or if the level of SSE I am seeing is standard for these sets, but it completely ruins the experience. I've calibrated the set and tried published settings, like those from CNET, but the SSE is so intrusive, even from 13 feet back, that I am forced to return the set. Other than the SSE, though, I love the set. So, is it likely that future builds or SXRD models will feature screens with less or no SSE? Also, and I know it is slightly off topic, can anyone suggest a good plasma to look into?
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