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post #7141 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Twehttam View Post

I don't believe so.

It's an EXPLORER 8300HD and I haven't found any settings which let me change from 1080i. If anyone has ideas on this, however, I'm listening.

Press info and guide on the front of the 8300 simultaneously and this will bring up a setup mode. Follow the on-screen instructions to activate other resolutions.
post #7142 of 14269
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Originally Posted by lcaillo View Post

Press info and guide on the front of the 8300 simultaneously and this will bring up a setup mode. Follow the on-screen instructions to activate other resolutions.

Yep, if it's like all the other SA Hi def boxes, it'll have a Pass-through setting that will allow the box to just send the pure signal to the TV without upscaling it. I had great SD picture improvement with my Sony (not SXRD, buying it tomorrow!) LCD RPTV after I did this.
post #7143 of 14269
The weird thing is I think I see SOME greenISH faces, but my set isnt ISF Calibrated yet (Thats tomorrow) and it was on the movie Tears of The Sun on Blu-Ray and on one SDTV channel.... but I could be just imagining things.... and also the set isnt calibrated and I know these A2000's (like the XBRs) have color issues outta the box. Its no where near enough of a reason (if it is actually happening) to return the set......... but im wondering if it is happening can calibration make a difference? So far I flipped through all 300 channels on my tv and saw the "greenISH" faces like 1 time. And like I Said on that Tears of The Sun (although that whole movie has a kind of greenish tint to it since its in the jungle). I think im making myself go bonkers.... but anyone have any insight?
post #7144 of 14269
If you just purchased this set, does sony come out and profesinaly calibrate it for you? or do you need to hire someone
post #7145 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Column View Post

If you just purchased this set, does sony come out and profesinaly calibrate it for you? or do you need to hire someone

Oh no no no.... Sony does not Calibrate your TV! The peoplpe they send couldnt do it anyway. They will come to look at it to perhaps FIX it if something is wrong, but they defenitly dont Calibrate HDTVs.
post #7146 of 14269
Okay fellas...

I've got the 60-A2000 in my cart and am ready to purchase. I'm thinking that I should just go ahead and buy the DVD player at the same time. I'm not going to go HD/BluRay just yet. I'm looking for a good upscaling DVD player to match with the 60 that won't break the bank.

Thanks!
post #7147 of 14269
Got our 60A2000 the other day and it's downright amazing! Watched War of the Worlds on HBO and it was just stunning. I have two questions though:

My settings are all stock for now, how much does professional calibration cost and is it worth it?

When watching TV over component even on SD channels if I hit the display button it will say it's 1080i 16:9. The manual says the set displays everything at 1920*1080 so does that mean that everything will be upscaled to 1080i? My HD box is an explorer 3100HD. Reading just the last page of this thread it seems these HD boxes upscale everything to 1080i internally? My best bet would be to set it to send pure digital signal out and let the TV scale and deinterlace it right?
post #7148 of 14269
I have Dish Network and they just turned off my distant networks. I can only get NBC OTA where I live. I have called my cable co ( Suddenlink ) and can't get a straight answer so I'm hoping someone here can help me. If I get the most basic cable package so I can get my local networks, which are broadcast OTA in HD, will I receive them in HD without an HD box? I've been told by one operator that I need to order their largest package to get HD and that I don't by another. I thought as long as the station broadcasts in HD I'll receive it in HD even without the box. Any help would be appreciated. Also, has anyone hooked up a PS3 yet? If so, How does it look?

Thanks,

Jon
post #7149 of 14269
Just got my KDS-50A2000 last night (picked it up from the warehouse directly). I've been watching the HD programming from my cable provider pretty much nonstop since then haha. I'm really pleased, no strange blobs, no abnormalities to speak of (I've got an August '06 build if that interests anyone). My only regret is that I have no HD/BD player at the moment to take advantage of 1080p, though I'm not sure if I run HDMI from my cable box it may provide a higher resolution.

This will sound strange, but I'm actually sitting (not literally ) on a PS3. I got lucky and was able to get the bundle that went on sale from costco.com the morning of the 17th. The only reason I've not hooked it up yet is that it's a holiday gift for my little brother. Pathetic I know, and don't think i've not been tempted to play it a little and repackage it. Once it's in operation I'll sneak it over here, set it up, and report back. I can't wait to see gaming in HD.

On a side note, if there's anyone out there like me who didn't want to shell out an additional 400 clams for the stand from sony, I found a REALLY cheap alternative that looks very good for the price. IKEA was selling TV stands, and I just happened to be in the store and saw that it would be perfect, for about 1/7 the price of the sony one. True, no rear clip to hook into your tv in case a pterodactyl tries to carry it off, but I think I'll manage for now. I forget the name, but if there's a store near you, or even the catalogue perhaps, it's just a small simple silver colored tv stand with two shelves that can hold something like 200lbs. The base of the 50A2000 fits perfectly on it too.
post #7150 of 14269
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Originally Posted by REFLEX View Post

The weird thing is I think I see SOME greenISH faces, but my set isnt ISF Calibrated yet (Thats tomorrow) and it was on the movie Tears of The Sun on Blu-Ray and on one SDTV channel.... but I could be just imagining things.... and also the set isnt calibrated and I know these A2000's (like the XBRs) have color issues outta the box. Its no where near enough of a reason (if it is actually happening) to return the set......... but im wondering if it is happening can calibration make a difference? So far I flipped through all 300 channels on my tv and saw the "greenISH" faces like 1 time. And like I Said on that Tears of The Sun (although that whole movie has a kind of greenish tint to it since its in the jungle). I think im making myself go bonkers.... but anyone have any insight?

REFLEX- you should buy or rent mission Impossible III and make sure your ISF calibrator watches scene 3 to see example of green tinge. It's very prevalent in this scene which takes place in a 7/11 on the sides on some face shots. make sure whatever he does he corrects for this. Can you please let us know specifically what adjustment (details please) he makes on your set? Many thanks.
post #7151 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Stumper View Post

On a side note, if there's anyone out there like me who didn't want to shell out an additional 400 clams for the stand from sony, I found a REALLY cheap alternative that looks very good for the price. IKEA was selling TV stands, and I just happened to be in the store and saw that it would be perfect, for about 1/7 the price of the sony one. True, no rear clip to hook into your tv in case a pterodactyl tries to carry it off, but I think I'll manage for now. I forget the name, but if there's a store near you, or even the catalogue perhaps, it's just a small simple silver colored tv stand with two shelves that can hold something like 200lbs. The base of the 50A2000 fits perfectly on it too.

Do you have an Ikea model name/number? I'll be looking for a stand for the 60 and there's an Ikea about 25 minutes away.
post #7152 of 14269
must be the Stormark from IKEA,id like to link it but i dont have 5 posts yet =P

its *edit* bucks and can hold up to 220




I think ill get the sony one tho,just because it probly sits at the right height for a person sitting in a couch.I just ordered the 60a2000 so im not sure if the IKEA one can support that,anyone tested this and knows? cause its a hell of lot cheaper lol

acutely NM i think the IKEA may be a winner heres the specs on the sony stand versus the ikea one

Sony Stand

Item Weight
75.0 lbs.
Dimensions:
Depth
20-7/8 in.
Height
18-3/8 in.
Width
51-3/8 in.


Ikea Stormark

Product dimensions
Width: 39 3/4 "
Depth: 22 1/2 "
Height: 18 7/8 "
Max. load: 220 lb\\

*Edit* I took out the prices because I think the board doesnt allow it
post #7153 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Column View Post

Ikea Stormark - 60$

Product dimensions
Width: 39 3/4 "
Depth: 22 1/2 "
Height: 18 7/8 "
Max. load: 220 lb

I don't think that's gonna work with the 60 as it's over 50" wide.
post #7154 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Randomcreek View Post

REFLEX- you should buy or rent mission Impossible III and make sure your ISF calibrator watches scene 3 to see example of green tinge. It's very prevalent in this scene which takes place in a 7/11 on the sides on some face shots. make sure whatever he does he corrects for this. Can you please let us know specifically what adjustment (details please) he makes on your set? Many thanks.


So is this "green face" problem with every one of these A2000s? I mean its not a big deal at all because it almost never happens and its not even a big deal when it does.

I was hoping that Calibration by my ISF guy would really help a lot..... Im gonna talk to him about it for sure, tomorrow morning. Ill be more than happy to share results.
post #7155 of 14269
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Originally Posted by seanrh View Post

...When watching TV over component even on SD channels if I hit the display button it will say it's 1080i 16:9. The manual says the set displays everything at 1920*1080 so does that mean that everything will be upscaled to 1080i? My HD box is an explorer 3100HD. Reading just the last page of this thread it seems these HD boxes upscale everything to 1080i internally? My best bet would be to set it to send pure digital signal out and let the TV scale and deinterlace it right?

When you hit the display button the A2000 indicates what it's receiving on that input, so if you were watching original 480i material and the TV indicates 1080i, your cable box is converting the 480i to 1080i. The TV natively displays everything except for the PC input at 1920x1080p, so it is taking the 1080i and deinterlacing it to 1080p for display.

It's a safe bet that the A2000 will do a better job of deinterlacing and scaling 480i than the cable box, so yes, try to configure the cable box to pass-through the native resolution if at all possible. Deinterlacing has to come before scaling to avoid introducing artifacts so I would think a typical cable box deinterlaces 480i to 480p, scales the 480p to 540p, then interlaces the result to 1080i; I would think/hope that the A2000 scales 480p all the way to 1080p for display...
post #7156 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Thunderbroom View Post

Ughhh....

I went back to BB to check out the A2000's again. They had a 50 and 55 on display. I didn't notice any green issues with either set.

The price has gone back up and they only pricematch with online big box stores. While I can afford to spend the money for the set, I'm really on the fence now. There are some places online that are hundreds cheaper. I'm thinking of going this route though I'd prefer to buy local.

If you live near an H.H Grg, try them! They were the best, deal-wise for me.
post #7157 of 14269
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Originally Posted by REFLEX View Post

So is this "green face" problem with every one of these A2000s? I mean its not a big deal at all because it almost never happens and its not even a big deal when it does.

I was hoping that Calibration by my ISF guy would really help a lot..... Im gonna talk to him about it for sure, tomorrow morning. Ill be more than happy to share results.


I do not have the "green face" problem. After reading many posts over the last few days. I can say that alot of what people are seeing is the source not the display. With a little calibration errors thrown in. The only real way to see if the display is accurate is to have it ISF calibrated. They will dial in the color with the best balance and accuracy. Then if you still see the green faces it is the source. Plain and simple. After calibration have the ISF tech tweak it a bit so the green is not as prevalent. Everyone sees color differently and has their own tastes. It does not help that people are now obsessed with green anything on the SXRD models from the green blob issues of the past.
The HD displays out there now display such a superior picture than anything in the past. It is getting to the point where the technology is surpassing the current signal source being sent out. Or rather showing its flaws. These flaws can be alot of things. Poor transfer and low bandwith being the 2 biggest. Its a issue that you actually see with the SD on any HD display. SD is a low resolution garbage signal, that is being displayed with equipment that shows just how bad it is.
HD is great but it is not perfect. Not until they give a true full bandwith HD signal. Best bet for pure HD is the HD-DVD. Blu-Ray is a close second, since they have shown already that the image is lesser quality than the HD-DVDs out there.
post #7158 of 14269
Well thanks for that info there, hes running a little late (calibrator).... but once he gets here im gonna be talking to him about it. and ill report back in a few hours with what happened.
post #7159 of 14269
Is this chip in out tv's??
http://www.siliconimage.com/products/product.aspx?id=69

Is it conceptually possible to have it replaced by this?

http://www.siliconimage.com/products...ct.aspx?id=101

This 'lip sync' issue is the biggest complaint by my wife and kids. --Greg--
post #7160 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Greg.Ca View Post

Is this chip in out tv's??
http://www.siliconimage.com/products/product.aspx?id=69

Is it conceptually possible to have it replaced by this?

http://www.siliconimage.com/products...ct.aspx?id=101

This 'lip sync' issue is the biggest complaint by my wife and kids. --Greg--

There are a number of audio settings and delays in the WEM service menu. Maybe an expert here can tell you which to adjust to eliminate the lip sync issues you are having. I'm seeing them only infrequently, so, I attribute it to the source, but, if it's a continual problem for you, you may need to adjust your set. I'll bet a calibrator could do it for you.
post #7161 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Greg.Ca View Post

Is this chip in out tv's??
http://www.siliconimage.com/products/product.aspx?id=69

No, chip in the A2000 is SiI9011

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Originally Posted by Greg.Ca View Post

Is it conceptually possible to have it replaced by this?

Even if it was the same, replacement would not really be possible in the field as the chip is surface mount and soldered in place with around 150 pins!
post #7162 of 14269
Have any of you tried the ps3 to the 60a2k via hdmi and played a blueray disk? Perhaps I'm being dumb here, but I was thinking that when playing the included sample blueray (talledega nights) that I shouldn't have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen.

I'm expecting full screen amazement. The 60a2k says it's in 1080p format... is it just the format of the disc or amd I being dumb?

-jbl
post #7163 of 14269
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Originally Posted by jasonbrent View Post

Have any of you tried the ps3 to the 60a2k via hdmi and played a blueray disk? Perhaps I'm being dumb here, but I was thinking that when playing the included sample blueray (talledega nights) that I shouldn't have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen.

I'm expecting full screen amazement. The 60a2k says it's in 1080p format... is it just the format of the disc or amd I being dumb?

-jbl

I think different movies are shot at different aspects. Some even shot close to 5:4(Hulk). If that movie uses a wider aspect than 16:9 your simply watching it at its intended dimensions, but will get black bars. However I'm sure there are settings you can change to 'crop' or 'squeeze' the image to 16:9...
post #7164 of 14269
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Originally Posted by jasonbrent View Post

Have any of you tried the ps3 to the 60a2k via hdmi and played a blueray disk? Perhaps I'm being dumb here, but I was thinking that when playing the included sample blueray (talledega nights) that I shouldn't have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen.

I'm expecting full screen amazement. The 60a2k says it's in 1080p format... is it just the format of the disc or amd I being dumb?

-jbl


I have the 60A2000 and I watch Blu-Ray via HDMI on my tv. The black bars are supposed to be there, for some reason this is a common question, but ill answer. Different movies - rather different directors decide to shoot in different aspect ratios (basically the different sized black bars on different movies). This gives you a much wider shot than just in full 16x9. Its supposed to be this way. This retains the original artistic intention and gives you what they want to give you. You can stretch it if you want but it looks terrible and you lose some of the picture.
post #7165 of 14269
I've had this TV for a week and suddenly I've started seeing bugs inside the outer glass. It's definitely inside my TV, not from the source (I see them no matter what channel is on). I've seen an ant and a fly. And they are definitely inside the glass, not outside.

The good news is bugs have a very short life span, so they will be dead soon. But what if one dies right in the middle of the screen and sticks there. That would be annoying. Plus, if these got in there, this means there could be a steady stream of others getting in.

It's not like my house is filled with insects. I haven't seen an insect inside my house in months. Yet i doubt they got in there during manufacturing because they would be dead by now. Bugs have very short life spans. There is apparently an opening they are getting in through. But it seems like that should be a rather well sealed area.

Anyone else ever have this problem, and how did it turn out? Thanks in advance.
post #7166 of 14269
I've had my 50A2000 for a week now. It was rocky at first but now I love it. It took a bit of fiddling with the settings, but now the colors are very impressively true from channel to channel. Of course there exceptions caused by the particular channel and the camera used, but I'd say the colors and PQ are awesome in 95% of HD channels and DVDs and at least 80% of SD channels. I keyed in on the green tinge at first, but now I hardly notice it -- largely because I've made it less prevalent by adjusting the settings.

I love the fact that you can make detailed adjustments to the color through the settings menu and that you don't have to go to the SERVICE menu to do it. That is a HUGE feature and is lacking on a lot of other brands. E.g. the Samsung HL-Sxx87W lacks it. You just have to pretty much settle on the Samsung's purplish bias.
post #7167 of 14269
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Originally Posted by Jren View Post

I have Dish Network and they just turned off my distant networks. I can only get NBC OTA where I live. I have called my cable co ( Suddenlink ) and can't get a straight answer so I'm hoping someone here can help me. If I get the most basic cable package so I can get my local networks, which are broadcast OTA in HD, will I receive them in HD without an HD box? I've been told by one operator that I need to order their largest package to get HD and that I don't by another. I thought as long as the station broadcasts in HD I'll receive it in HD even without the box. Any help would be appreciated. Also, has anyone hooked up a PS3 yet? If so, How does it look?

Thanks,

Jon

This seems a little off-topic for 'The Official Sony 2006 KDS-(XX)A2000 [NO PRICE TALK] SXRD Owner's Thread', so if you don't get an answer, you may want to try another forum.

However, I will answer what I can. I believe that the FCC mandates that any local broadcasts be delivered free and unencrypted by local cable companies, so if your cable company is delivering the locals in HD format your SXRD should be able to show them. I get mine without a cable box.
post #7168 of 14269
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Originally Posted by tomcran View Post

I've had this TV for a week and suddenly I've started seeing bugs inside the outer glass. It's definitely inside my TV, not from the source (I see them no matter what channel is on). I've seen an ant and a fly. And they are definitely inside the glass, not outside.

The good news is bugs have a very short life span, so they will be dead soon. But what if one dies right in the middle of the screen and sticks there. That would be annoying. Plus, if these got in there, this means there could be a steady stream of others getting in.

It's not like my house is filled with insects. I haven't seen an insect inside my house in months. Yet i doubt they got in there during manufacturing because they would be dead by now. Bugs have very short life spans. There is apparently an opening they are getting in through. But it seems like that should be a rather well sealed area.

Anyone else ever have this problem, and how did it turn out? Thanks in advance.

Those are design bugs; all new models have them. j/k

I actually haven't had that problem and would think that the unit would be sealed well enought to prevent that. I would also think that the vents/fan opening would have a filter, but that's just a guess.

You might try calling Sony. It's free, minus the pain you'll experience if you talk to someone who's clueless.
post #7169 of 14269
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Originally Posted by jasonbrent View Post

Perhaps I'm being dumb here, but I was thinking that when playing the included sample blueray (talledega nights) that I shouldn't have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen.

I'm expecting full screen amazement. The 60a2k says it's in 1080p format... is it just the format of the disc or amd I being dumb?

-jbl

1080p is not a format it's the resolution of the image. Resolution tells you how much data is used to create what you see.

The size and shape of the image is the aspect ratio. The width of the image in the included DVD is wider than your TV screen which is 16:9 or a 1.77:1 aspect ratio. The included DVD is probably 2.35:1.

For the "rest of the story" you can read the "black bars" link at the bottom of my post. The fist post tells it one way and the last few posts tell the same story a different way.
post #7170 of 14269
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Originally Posted by RaptorX View Post

I actually haven't had that problem and would think that the unit would be sealed well enought to prevent that.

They're not.

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I would also think that the vents/fan opening would have a filter, but that's just a guess.

In general, a bad guess.

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You might try calling Sony. It's free, minus the pain you'll experience if you talk to someone who's clueless.

If Sony sends out an ant removal team it will be a big story.
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