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post #2041 of 3237
I just found this over on CNET's review page. May be of some help. Don't know if it was already posted so here it is.

August 10, 2006, 3:45 PM PDT
Sony to offer service solution for resolution issue affecting early KDS-60A2000 HDTVs
Posted by: John P. Falcone


As detailed in the lengthy editor's note that appeared in the introduction of the review, we encountered a small anomaly when reviewing the Sony KDS-60A2000: unlike its predecessor, the KDS-R60XBR1, Sony's 2006 SXRD model couldn't seem to resolve the finest details in a 1080i test pattern. Sony engineers quickly issued us instructions to modify the TV's service menu to address the issue, and--after the fix--the same KDS-60A2000 was able to display the test pattern normally; that is, showing every pixel of its 1920x1080p resolution.

When we initially posted our review, Sony stated it wasn't sure whether the issue affected only a handful of early review units for the press (such as ours), or whether it also extended to the initial units purchased by customers. The company has now confirmed that an unspecified number of sets sold to end-users also have the same issue, and it plans to assist affected customers who want to make the same fix we did during our testing. The company's latest statement is as follows:

Since Sony's original response to the 1080i HDMI signal issue reported on the KDS-60A2000 preproduction sample, we have confirmed that production of A2000 models features the optimized setting addressing the issue you observed.

However, a limited number of early production units were manufactured with the filter setting engaged, preventing the specific test pattern from being fully displayed. For these early production sets, as CNET indicated in its review, normal television viewing or picture quality is not affected. Nevertheless, to be responsive to CNET and other inquiries, Sony will be offering a service solution to consumers who purchase one of the early production sets and would like to bypass the filter. Information regarding the service change or other details regarding the SXRD television may be obtained by contacting Sony at the number provided in the television Operating Instructions.

So, to summarize: some of the early KDS-60A2000s that have already been sold may suffer from the resolution problem, but Sony will be offering a free fix to the owners of these sets upon their request.

It's worth reiterating that CNET was unable to detect any discernible difference in resolution when viewing regular program material (HD-DVD and Blu-ray movies at 1080i and 1080p resolutions, respectively). But that assurance will be of little comfort to the video-enthusiast community, for whom wringing every last pixel of detail from an HDTV is of the utmost importance. And after spending $3,700 for a new HDTV, those impassioned videophiles want--and deserve--nothing short of perfection, even if the benefit is more theoretical than actual.
post #2042 of 3237
Greetings fellow A2000 owners. I have been reading the posts on the SXRD for a while and I finally scraped up enuff cash to get me the KDS-60A2000! The Born date is JAN 2007! I have been eying this tv since it came out last summer and I am loving it! I knew it would not disappoint, man the picture is amazing. I am a newbie on this forum but I am familiar with Sony tv's and tweaking (also own the e4210, my bed room tv and sold my 57 ws510 service menu tweaked to buy the 60A2000). I just wanted to let you all know that the Jan 2007 build I have has ZERO green haze it's rock solid. Also the Cnet tweak is a very good starting ground to tweak at, all you have to do is adjust it to your liking, so again to all you newbies at tweaking EVERY tv is different and every viewing preference differs, so there is no one right tweak per say but the cnet tweak is a good place to start. Again I love this tv, and the ps3 blue ray is jawdropping!!! you wanna see 108op at it's best? pick up CRANK!!! pure HD goodness!!!
post #2043 of 3237
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Originally Posted by jimmyv View Post

One would assume this is one of the purposes for the USB connector on the back. As far as I know, no updates have been released. But, you can save and restore the settings to a USB memory stick using this port.

Thanks! I did not see that in the manual.
post #2044 of 3237
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Originally Posted by Stevetd View Post

Thanks! I did not see that in the manual.

That's because it's done thru the Service Menu so isn't documented in the User Manual.

At least one user previously reported getting a USB memory stick sent to him which he plugged in to load the LPF fix (a pretty simple Service Menu change), and, to load it I don't think he had to go into the Service Menus. So, Sony must have a provision to put something equivalent to an "auto-run" file on it to make it self load.

The ability to save user data to a USB media is in the Service DTV menu, QM submenu, item 16 WUSR (Press '3' to write). The read user data from USB media is item 17 RUSR (Press '3' to read).
post #2045 of 3237
Could someone kindly post their default value for 5 HST_POS under the 1 TG menu please. I don't know what I was thinking and inadvertently changed this instead of 29 H_CENT and saved it.

I'd really really appreciate it...
post #2046 of 3237
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Originally Posted by snaggle2th View Post

I just found this over on CNET's review page. May be of some help. Don't know if it was already posted so here it is.

August 10, 2006, 3:45 PM PDT
Sony to offer service solution for resolution issue affecting early KDS-60A2000 HDTVs
Posted by: John P. Falcone


As detailed in the lengthy editor's note that appeared in the introduction of the review, we encountered a small anomaly when reviewing the Sony KDS-60A2000: unlike its predecessor, the KDS-R60XBR1, Sony's 2006 SXRD model couldn't seem to resolve the finest details in a 1080i test pattern. Sony engineers quickly issued us instructions to modify the TV's service menu to address the issue, and--after the fix--the same KDS-60A2000 was able to display the test pattern normally; that is, showing every pixel of its 1920x1080p resolution.

When we initially posted our review, Sony stated it wasn't sure whether the issue affected only a handful of early review units for the press (such as ours), or whether it also extended to the initial units purchased by customers. The company has now confirmed that an unspecified number of sets sold to end-users also have the same issue, and it plans to assist affected customers who want to make the same fix we did during our testing. The company's latest statement is as follows:

Since Sony's original response to the 1080i HDMI signal issue reported on the KDS-60A2000 preproduction sample, we have confirmed that production of A2000 models features the optimized setting addressing the issue you observed.

However, a limited number of early production units were manufactured with the filter setting engaged, preventing the specific test pattern from being fully displayed. For these early production sets, as CNET indicated in its review, normal television viewing or picture quality is not affected. Nevertheless, to be responsive to CNET and other inquiries, Sony will be offering a service solution to consumers who purchase one of the early production sets and would like to bypass the filter. Information regarding the service change or other details regarding the SXRD television may be obtained by contacting Sony at the number provided in the television Operating Instructions.

So, to summarize: some of the early KDS-60A2000s that have already been sold may suffer from the resolution problem, but Sony will be offering a free fix to the owners of these sets upon their request.

It's worth reiterating that CNET was unable to detect any discernible difference in resolution when viewing regular program material (HD-DVD and Blu-ray movies at 1080i and 1080p resolutions, respectively). But that assurance will be of little comfort to the video-enthusiast community, for whom wringing every last pixel of detail from an HDTV is of the utmost importance. And after spending $3,700 for a new HDTV, those impassioned videophiles want--and deserve--nothing short of perfection, even if the benefit is more theoretical than actual.

Thanks, but that's pretty old news. Check post #2 on page one for the fix.
post #2047 of 3237
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Originally Posted by ldlvr View Post

Could someone kindly post their default value for 5 HST_POS under the 1 TG menu please. I don't know what I was thinking and inadvertently changed this instead of 29 H_CENT and saved it.

I'd really really appreciate it...

Mine is 211
post #2048 of 3237
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Originally Posted by jimmyv View Post

Mine is 211


Thank you!


For anyone interested I found the service manual pdf on Sony's site(hope it hasn't already been posted). Not really much in there but...
http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDS60A2000_sm.pdf
post #2049 of 3237
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Originally Posted by ldlvr View Post

For anyone interested I found the service manual pdf on Sony's site(hope it hasn't already been posted). Not really much in there but...
http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDS60A2000_sm.pdf

How did you locate this? I have some other Sony equipment I'd like to access the service manuals for.
post #2050 of 3237
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Originally Posted by KC-Technerd View Post

How did you locate this? I have some other Sony equipment I'd like to access the service manuals for.


I found a link here on AVS for the XBR2 LCD so I just started changing the filename at the end of the link until I got it. I started with KDS50A2000_sm.pdf which is what I have and it didn't work so I tried KDS55A2000_sm.pdf and still no luck. Finally KDS60A2000_sm.pdf and it worked.
post #2051 of 3237
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Originally Posted by ldlvr View Post

Thank you!


For anyone interested I found the service manual pdf on Sony's site(hope it hasn't already been posted). Not really much in there but...
http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDS60A2000_sm.pdf

Thank you! I'm sure quite a few people will be happy to see this.
post #2052 of 3237
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Originally Posted by SpinsterSXRD View Post

Greetings fellow A2000 owners. I have been reading the posts on the SXRD for a while and I finally scraped up enuff cash to get me the KDS-60A2000! The Born date is JAN 2007! I have been eying this tv since it came out last summer and I am loving it! I knew it would not disappoint, man the picture is amazing. I am a newbie on this forum but I am familiar with Sony tv's and tweaking (also own the e4210, my bed room tv and sold my 57 ws510 service menu tweaked to buy the 60A2000). I just wanted to let you all know that the Jan 2007 build I have has ZERO green haze it's rock solid. Also the Cnet tweak is a very good starting ground to tweak at, all you have to do is adjust it to your liking, so again to all you newbies at tweaking EVERY tv is different and every viewing preference differs, so there is no one right tweak per say but the cnet tweak is a good place to start. Again I love this tv, and the ps3 blue ray is jawdropping!!! you wanna see 108op at it's best? pick up CRANK!!! pure HD goodness!!!

good luck with your A2000. I am on the fence with Sony. I went through 2 60A2000's with the green haze and then switched to JVC 61fn97 which i still have. I have Best Buy coming on 3/1/2007 to swap out the JVC with a Mits 65732 which I decided to get after Best Buy gave me $700 more when I returned my 60A2000. I have not received the Mits tv yet but when I was playing with the A2000's at Best Buy I noticed the green haze.

I thought of giving the 60A2000 another chance but with the Mits 65732 going for the same price as the A2000 at Best Buy I decided to give that one a try.

If that doesnt work out, I will give SOny another try, maybe by then they will release 2007 SXRD models.

Thanks for all you guys who tried to help me out with my green haze problems in the past.

If anyone is looking for a decent stand, the ikea Benno stand is a pretty cool stand at only $99

peace
post #2053 of 3237
Sorry you had the green haze but in the grans scheme of things your troubles on the 60a2000 are probably less than 1% of those total tv sold that have problems, it's just bad luck on your part getting a green hazed one, while thousands of other purchased ones are probably rock solid performance and no green haze. Me I also had problems with Sony CRT it had a flicker issue and went thru 2 repairs, did I give up on Sony and change TV's? HECK NO! I am sorry But I've never seen another tv that looks great out the box like a Sony. You walk into a wall of HDTV's in an electronic store and damn it if you just keep looking back at the Sony, I know I do! A Mits or a Panny or a Tosh never made me turn my head. Good luck and try a Sony again.
post #2054 of 3237
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Originally Posted by ldlvr View Post

For anyone interested I found the service manual pdf on Sony's site(hope it hasn't already been posted). Not really much in there but...
http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDS60A2000_sm.pdf

Bummer - it has nothing about the service menu. Although, it is nice that it tells the meanings of the self diagnosis flashing lights.

2 flashes - Temp Over - (lamp heating abnormally)
3 flashes - Lamp Cover - (lamp cover not attached correctly)
4 flashes - Fan Error - (fan power not supplied or connected properly)
5 flashes - Lamp Driver - (lamp driver faulty)
6 flashes - Power Error - (D5V is not supplied)
7 flashes - Audio Prot - (speaker line is shorted)
8 flashes - Power OVP - (7v is over voltage)
9 flashes - Device Error - (temp sensors, Bus decoder ICs...)
LAMP LED Flashes - Lamp for the light source burns out.

Power/Standby indicator blinking is released by removing the plug from the power for 2 minutes.

Self Diag screen display - from standby press 'Display', '5', 'Vol -' 'Power'

To clear results - from standby press 'Display', '5', 'Vol -', 'Power', '8', 'Enter'
post #2055 of 3237
1) How does one restore/backup the A2000 firmware from/to a USB stick?

2) Does the entire A2000 series (50", 55", and 60") use the same firmware? For example, if I get a copy of my friend's firmware for a 55" A2000, will it work fine on my 60" A2000?

3) Does anyone know what the latest and greatest firmware is? Is anyone willing to share their firmware (assuming you have done no service mode changes at all)? I'd like to get my hands on the most recent unaltered A2000 firmware.
post #2056 of 3237
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Originally Posted by ldlvr View Post

I found a link here on AVS for the XBR2 LCD so I just started changing the filename at the end of the link until I got it. I started with KDS50A2000_sm.pdf which is what I have and it didn't work so I tried KDS55A2000_sm.pdf and still no luck. Finally KDS60A2000_sm.pdf and it worked.


can you find the link to the service manual for the kds60xbr2? thanks. you'll be a hero on the xbr2 owners thread.
post #2057 of 3237
Firmware upgrade: "One would assume this is one of the purposes for the USB connector on the back. As far as I know, no updates have been released. But, you can save and restore the settings to a USB memory stick using this port."

Actually Sony will ship early set owners a USB memory card to flash the codes to provide for full 1080i resolution by changing out one or two of the default codes. Many here merely went into the service menue to make the same code changes.

I use the USB slot to activate my 6300k backlight I installed onto the back of my set to conform to industry lighting recommendations. I used a USB device intended for PC use to turn on and off the power to PC accessories; worked like a charm.

Richard.
post #2058 of 3237
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

can you find the link to the service manual for the kds60xbr2? thanks. you'll be a hero on the xbr2 owners thread.

Just posted to the XBR2 thread...
post #2059 of 3237
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Originally Posted by Feirstein View Post

Firmware upgrade: "One would assume this is one of the purposes for the USB connector on the back. As far as I know, no updates have been released. But, you can save and restore the settings to a USB memory stick using this port."

Actually Sony will ship early set owners a USB memory card to flash the codes to provide for full 1080i resolution by changing out one or two of the default codes. Many here merely went into the service menue to make the same code changes.

I use the USB slot to activate my 6300k backlight I installed onto the back of my set to conform to industry lighting recommendations. I used a USB device intended for PC use to turn on and off the power to PC accessories; worked like a charm.

Richard.

Brilliant.....
post #2060 of 3237
Quote:
Originally Posted by ldlvr
For anyone interested I found the service manual pdf on Sony's site(hope it hasn't already been posted). Not really much in there but...
http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDS60A2000_sm.pdf
Any chance you can find documentation on the service menus?
The Excel file (zipped) has all the contents of the menus with notes by a few of the known items as to what they are, but, it was derived the hard way, by copying them manually from the on-screen display. It would be nice to have the official documentation of what they are, mean, and do.

By the way, I find downloading this file most successful when you right click it and "Save Target As" rather than left clicking it.

 

Sony xxA2000 Menu Settings - Complete Listing.zip 76.3095703125k . file
post #2061 of 3237
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Originally Posted by Feirstein View Post

I use the USB slot to activate my 6300k backlight I installed onto the back of my set to conform to industry lighting recommendations. I used a USB device intended for PC use to turn on and off the power to PC accessories; worked like a charm.

This sounds very interesting. Can you direct me to one of these USB switches on line?

Tom
post #2062 of 3237
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Originally Posted by jimmyv View Post

Any chance you can find documentation on the service menus?
The Excel file (zipped) has all the contents of the menus with notes by a few of the known items as to what they are, but, it was derived the hard way, by copying them manually from the on-screen display. It would be nice to have the official documentation of what they are, mean, and do.

By the way, I find downloading this file most successful when you right click it and "Save Target As" rather than left clicking it.

Nope, that would be great though if there were.
post #2063 of 3237
I just hooked up my 55A2000 last night. It has one item that is starting to bug me. The picture is awesome, it fills the screen, BUT it seems from one end of the TV to the other it is about 1/4 inch higher than the other end. I opened up the guide through comcast, I can tell a slight difference from left to right. I've tried xbox games, it shows (anytime there is wording or screen banners along the bottom). It isn't that the words disappear, it just seems like the picture is slightly "tilted" or not level. Any suggestions? Thanks!
post #2064 of 3237
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Originally Posted by csp1971 View Post

I just hooked up my 55A2000 last night. It has one item that is starting to bug me. The picture is awesome, it fills the screen, BUT it seems from one end of the TV to the other it is about 1/4 inch higher than the other end. I opened up the guide through comcast, I can tell a slight difference from left to right. I've tried xbox games, it shows (anytime there is wording or screen banners along the bottom). It isn't that the words disappear, it just seems like the picture is slightly "tilted" or not level. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Read the FAQ on page one, specifically post #2.
post #2065 of 3237
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Originally Posted by RaptorX View Post

Read the FAQ on page one, specifically post #2.


Thank You! The font on post 2 was too small, that must have been why I missed this!


Much relief that this is in the FAQ's. Again thanks!

Chris
post #2066 of 3237
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Originally Posted by csp1971 View Post

Thank You! The font on post 2 was too small, that must have been why I missed this!


Much relief that this is in the FAQ's. Again thanks!

Chris

...and I can assure you that the 'F' in F.A.Q. certainly stands for FREQUENTLY.
post #2067 of 3237
How much does the tilt change after applying the mechanical fix?
Mine needs to be adjusted counter clockwise about 1/4 of an inch.
post #2068 of 3237
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Originally Posted by I Deliver View Post

Could not find this addressed before, but last night while watching Flyboy on my XBox thru component it would flicker or black out over and over. I would get a black screen with no sound. It occured mainly in the scenes with clouds or blue skies. When I hit menu to see if I could change some setting it too would black out so it seems like the A200 60 inch I have. I tried it on different sets with my XBox and it did not happen.

Thanks for any help


Just to let everyone know I have the problem fixed, it was only on bright or white scenes. Sony sent me a upgrade for my set via USB and it worked great. It took about fifteen minutes to do.
post #2069 of 3237
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Originally Posted by dm145 View Post

How much does the tilt change after applying the mechanical fix?
Mine needs to be adjusted counter clockwise about 1/4 of an inch.

petty decent amount but i had to play with it for awhile to get it almost perfect. needs to come down alittle more clockwise. also messed with the trapazoid adjustment. and figured out how to remove all overscan and now i can run full screen in 1080p with no off screen image. standard resolutions like 1024x768. 1280x768 work perfect. no need for underscan.
post #2070 of 3237
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Originally Posted by 9ks2k View Post

and figured out how to remove all overscan and now i can run full screen in 1080p with no off screen image. standard resolutions like 1024x768. 1280x768 work perfect. no need for underscan.

Sounds like you know a lot more about these sets than the average owner (like me )

As the title asks, were you able to adjust out the overscan using physical adjustments, leaving the chips pixel matched? If so, would you mind sharing?

I have also wondered if there was any way to tweak the focus....HD over the HDMI inputs looks incredible but the image off my PC (through HDMI) is quite "soft".

Thanks!
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