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post #2221 of 3250
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Originally Posted by slade8200 View Post

I was really going to buy this TV (an A2000) a few days ago at Best Buy, it looked to be a fair price for a great product. But I figured I'd check this forum out before I committed to buying it, and to be honest, I don't understand how it can be considered a good product. The majority of posts about the A2000 on this forum are complaints about it. All this talk about changing settings to make the picture quality better just sounds crazy. Why should you have to do that to a TV you are buying? Why not just buy one that works? Please, someone...help me understand why anyone should buy this TV.

I hope your questions were answered adequately and that you didn't feel 'blasted'...some of us are very defensive about our TV's (including me, but everyone else beat me to the punch).
post #2222 of 3250
well i did the factory reset.


1. Service Adjustment mode.
2. Press 8 then [ENTER]
3. Wait until appearing Initial Setup display.
4. Disconnect AC plug and connect again to change factory reset condition com

initial setup didnt appear till i unplugged the tv. all settings were reset. uplugged again and intial setup came back up. seems to have reset all service mode settings. havent checked the lamp timer yet
post #2223 of 3250
Wait till fan stops before You unplug....
post #2224 of 3250
Testimonials thread or not, I was simply stating what I thought. I'm not trying to argue about anything. Basically I just wanted to make sure the TV was solid. Such as, will it still show a great picture without tuning. I am not a TV tuner, but I'm not an idiot either...just trying to make sure.
post #2225 of 3250
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Originally Posted by slade8200 View Post

Testimonials thread or not, I was simply stating what I thought. I'm not trying to argue about anything. Basically I just wanted to make sure the TV was solid. Such as, will it still show a great picture without tuning. I am not a TV tuner, but I'm not an idiot either...just trying to make sure.


Only you can decide if the tv shows a great picture without tuning. Everyones eyes see differently. I loved this set out of the box, but I loved it even more after a little tweaking!!!!
post #2226 of 3250
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Originally Posted by slade8200 View Post

Basically I just wanted to make sure the TV was solid. Such as, will it still show a great picture without tuning. I am not a TV tuner, but I'm not an idiot either...just trying to make sure.

I own the 50" A2020, which I've heard has all the same guts as the A2000, just differently designed. (I think they're the same price, too... so you might as well go with the 2020 if you like the design better.)

Here's the only settings I changed from default, and the picture looks phenomenal. (Even better than my XBR1 when it didn't have issues, which I went thru 4 different optical blocks with.)

I put it in custom mode, adjusted the brightness using the HDNet Test Pattern (56 with an 8300HD DVR thru HDMI), adjusted color to 42, the default seemed a bit oversaturated, and turned noise reduction off. Picture, Hue, Sharpness, and Color Temp are all left at the custom menu's default settings. I went into advanced menu and turned ALL of those settings off, went into white balance and used the CNET recommended settings. I usually put it into power saving mode, with the advanced iris at min for nighttime viewing since this is a very bright set, but that's to your taste, and won't change the proper levels for those other settings.

You may need to do a bit more tuning for lower quality sources such as DVD, but that's pretty simple, and just a matter of what looks good to your eyes. You don't need any specialty calibration to get an amazing picture from this TV.
post #2227 of 3250
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Originally Posted by virtualdude View Post

anyone notice the discrepancy in the owners manual and the on screen menu? check out page 35 for the DRC Mode. Note the "progessive" mode suggest it is for "moving pictures".

Now go to your on-screen menu to the DRC mode and it suggest DRC MODE "High Density" is for moving pictures, and that progressive is for "still images and text"

which is it?

isn't it fun re-reading owners manuals? actually i enjoy them. They are integral to the nice things we treat ourselves to. However, they should jive with the product!!!

dave

does any one know which setting is for which? this is a little confusing.
post #2228 of 3250
I sincerely apologize if this question was answered within the last 75 pages, but a search yielded no results.

When I bought my KDS-55A2000, SD channels, when set to Wide Zoom mode, would always fill the screen (this is my preferred viewing method despite what others say). When I switched back to an HD channel via my Explorer cable box, the HD channel would automatically be resized to fill the screen.

Now, my 4:3 channels have black bars on the side while my HD channels fill the screen or my 4:3 channels fill the screen while my HD channels appear to be zoomed.

AFAIK, no settings were changed on either my cable box or TV. Any way to get the old configuration back?

Thanks.
post #2229 of 3250
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Originally Posted by slade8200 View Post

Testimonials thread or not, I was simply stating what I thought. I'm not trying to argue about anything. Basically I just wanted to make sure the TV was solid. Such as, will it still show a great picture without tuning. I am not a TV tuner, but I'm not an idiot either...just trying to make sure.

Yes, I think this is a solid TV. You will have to decide if you like the picture out of the box. I liked the picture as well out of the box, but it is pumped up for maximum wow factor on the sales floor. You may love it like that? There are posters in here that I have heard say they are still using the out of the box settings. The array of controls provided are an asset to dial the picture in to your taste......it is a bennefit not a hinderence. Lot's of us enjoy playing with these controls just to see if we can make the picture even better! You also have a lot of variables between sources, record qualities, ambient lighting, etc. and having these controls gives you the ability to compensate. I really enjoy my TV and I would recommend it, but you got to find what you like
post #2230 of 3250
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Originally Posted by Mark Strube View Post

I own the 50" A2020, which I've heard has all the same guts as the A2000, just differently designed. (I think they're the same price, too... so you might as well go with the 2020 if you like the design better.)

Here's the only settings I changed from default, and the picture looks phenomenal. (Even better than my XBR1 when it didn't have issues, which I went thru 4 different optical blocks with.)

I put it in custom mode, adjusted the brightness using the HDNet Test Pattern (56 with an 8300HD DVR thru HDMI), adjusted color to 42, the default seemed a bit oversaturated, and turned noise reduction off. Picture, Hue, Sharpness, and Color Temp are all left at the custom menu's default settings. I went into advanced menu and turned ALL of those settings off, went into white balance and used the CNET recommended settings. I usually put it into power saving mode, with the advanced iris at min for nighttime viewing since this is a very bright set, but that's to your taste, and won't change the proper levels for those other settings.

You may need to do a bit more tuning for lower quality sources such as DVD, but that's pretty simple, and just a matter of what looks good to your eyes. You don't need any specialty calibration to get an amazing picture from this TV.

How is the picture on startup? Any green or purplish haze on a B&W picture? (turn color control to zero on any show to check for this). If so how long does it last? I was supposed to get a new OB installed today in my A-2000. Guy shows up at my door empty handed...they never ordered the part...ugh. He did agree that the set has uniformity problems though, and is now supposed to order the part today. So my saga continues. At least the set is watchable as is. He actually likes the SXRD's, but said he personally is still afraid to buy one due to ongoing OB issues. This is his first A-2000 OB replacement, but he has done 'many' XBR1's.
post #2231 of 3250
Absolutely none of those issues so far. My XBR1 had that warmup problem so I was looking for it.

Sadly, I know these issues can come out of nowhere, so knock on wood!
post #2232 of 3250
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Originally Posted by Mark Strube View Post

Absolutely none of those issues so far. My XBR1 had that warmup problem so I was looking for it.

Sadly, I know these issues can come out of nowhere, so knock on wood!

Glad to hear it is possible to get a good one...and I am sure you know what to look for. Mine was not right from day one. Fingers crossed the new OB will fix it.
post #2233 of 3250
Grah... I was just about to edit my above post.

I had it turn on to a completely gray screen by my DVR. Halfway between the center and the top of the screen, there's a long area with some green haze, and halfway between the center and the bottom of the screen there's a long area with some purple haze (much dimmer than the green). If you connected the two they'd form a "pill shape."

However, after a few minutes they're almost completely gone. If you REALLY look you can barely make out some green in that area once it's warmed up, and really only on a gray screen. Do you think I should worry, or have there been people with color problems like this that never turned into anything serious? My original OB for my XBR1 had a green "donut" in the center of the screen for the first few minutes of warm-up, but never had any additional issues through 1800 hours of use, except for a slight blueish light leak and blocky black levels in the lower right corner, which it had since day one, and is why I tried getting it replaced.
post #2234 of 3250
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

Glad to hear it is possible to get a good one...

???? Come on!
post #2235 of 3250
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Originally Posted by Mark Strube View Post

Grah... I was just about to edit my above post.

I had it turn on to a completely gray screen by my DVR. Halfway between the center and the top of the screen, there's a long area with some green haze, and halfway between the center and the bottom of the screen there's a long area with some purple haze (much dimmer than the green). If you connected the two they'd form a "pill shape."

However, after a few minutes they're completely gone. Do you think I should worry, or have there been people with color problems at boot-up that never turned into anything serious? My original OB for my XBR1 had a green "donut" in the center of the screen for the first few minutes of warm-up, but never had any additional issues through 1800 hours of use, except for a slight blueish light leak and blocky black levels in the lower right corner, which it had since day one, and is why I tried getting it replaced.

I think if your green and purple go away in a few minutes you are probably ok. Mine never go away, not even after an hour or more. They get somewhat better, but still there after even 2 hours. Also mine has very bluish blacks for the first hour or so, and blacks are always tainted with a purple haze at the top and bottom. It is hard to tell about long-term durablity of these things. The XBR1's seem to be failing at an alarming rate after 12-18 months of use. The A-2000 may, or may not prove to be better in that regard. I do have Sony on the hook with their 5 year warranty just in case.
post #2236 of 3250
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Originally Posted by squeeblez View Post

???? Come on!

What does that mean? I have had TWO sets, and both had issues...you should be able to understand my doubts that good ones really exist. I am encourged to hear that some really work right, and that gives me some hope that if I fight long enough, I will either get a good optical block in my set, or a total new set that works properly.
post #2237 of 3250
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Originally Posted by SXRDrules View Post

I sincerely apologize if this question was answered within the last 75 pages, but a search yielded no results.

When I bought my KDS-55A2000, SD channels, when set to Wide Zoom mode, would always fill the screen (this is my preferred viewing method despite what others say). When I switched back to an HD channel via my Explorer cable box, the HD channel would automatically be resized to fill the screen.

Now, my 4:3 channels have black bars on the side while my HD channels fill the screen or my 4:3 channels fill the screen while my HD channels appear to be zoomed.

AFAIK, no settings were changed on either my cable box or TV. Any way to get the old configuration back?

Thanks.

I actually had/have a similar problem with this. I have the same cable box and initially the cable box was originally set to output everything at 1080i. Initially this worked perfectly and switching between HD and SD (with zooming) was flawless. Then all of a sudden the Auto zooming stopped on the SD signals. I've tried just about everything and the best setup I can get is to set the explorer box to AUTO. At least now it correctly sizes the channels according to the signals. However, now I've noticed that switching between different signals takes a while (3 - 5 seconds). I wish I could get it back to it's original state of outputing 1080i with Auto Zoom.
post #2238 of 3250
The green is still there after a few minutes, but only BARELY noticeable on a completely gray screen (you REALLY have to look hard) and not noticeable at all on anything else. I even tried a solid white screen, and you can't see it.
post #2239 of 3250
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

What does that mean? I have had TWO sets, and both had issues...you should be able to understand my doubts that good ones really exist. I am encourged to hear that some really work right, and that gives me some hope that if I fight long enough, I will either get a good optical block in my set, or a total new set that works properly.

My KDS55-A2000 seems to be good. I've had it for about 2 months with absolutely no complaints (other than some minor issues with my cable box and not being very impressed with Sony's upconverting dvd player). The TV itself looks great. A little SSE, but I already barely notice it. No green blobs, and it takes about 5 minutes to warm up fully. I have absolutely no regrets with this TV.

Hold out hope... a good set is out there.
post #2240 of 3250
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Originally Posted by Mark Strube View Post

The green is still there after a few minutes, but only BARELY noticeable on a completely gray screen (you REALLY have to look hard) and not noticeable at all on anything else. I even tried a solid white screen, and you can't see it.

If it's not obvious on a B&W picture, I don't think you have much to worry about. I do notice that my discolarations are much more noticeable on grey, or B&W scenes than on solid white. Also my issues are more noticeable with color temp on warm2, than on neutral, or cool. Also, more noticeable with IRIS on MIN rather than AUTO 1, or AUTO 2. So basically the acid test for uniformity is put color to MIN (making a B&W picture), Color temp on Warm2, and Iris on MIN.
post #2241 of 3250
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Originally Posted by slade8200 View Post

Testimonials thread or not, I was simply stating what I thought. I'm not trying to argue about anything. Basically I just wanted to make sure the TV was solid. Such as, will it still show a great picture without tuning. I am not a TV tuner, but I'm not an idiot either...just trying to make sure.


the set will produce a great picture with minimal tuning of settings. i've spent no more than 10 minutes playing with the settings with which i am quite satisfied.
post #2242 of 3250
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Originally Posted by Mark Strube View Post

The green is still there after a few minutes, but only BARELY noticeable on a completely gray screen (you REALLY have to look hard) and not noticeable at all on anything else. I even tried a solid white screen, and you can't see it.

Mark,

Enjoy the TV don't get fixated on looking for abnormalities.
post #2243 of 3250
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

What does that mean? I have had TWO sets, and both had issues...you should be able to understand my doubts that good ones really exist. I am encourged to hear that some really work right, and that gives me some hope that if I fight long enough, I will either get a good optical block in my set, or a total new set that works properly.

Not trying to pick a fight with you, but Mark was giving advice to someone and mentioned how great his picture is and your reaction is to ask if he has discoloration at start up. We have people just within the last couple pages posting in here saying they don't know why any one would buy the TV, and your making statements like all the units are defective. I am sorry you have had such bad luck! I am enjoying my purchase and joined this forum for a positive experience and to hopefully learn some cool stuff. The negativity is killing mew though
post #2244 of 3250
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Originally Posted by squeeblez View Post

Not trying to pick a fight with you, but Mark was giving advice to someone and mentioned how great his picture is and your reaction is to ask if he has discoloration at start up. We have people just within the last couple pages posting in here saying they don't know why any one would buy the TV, and your making statements like all the units are defective. I am sorry you have had such bad luck! I am enjoying my purchase and joined this forum for a positive experience and to hopefully learn some cool stuff. The negativity is killing mew though

Funny how you think you have the right to tell the forum how great your set is, but I get slammed for saying I am having issues with mine. Why am I not allowed to ask an owner how his set behaves at startup? I have never said ALL the units are defective. That is why I asked Mark about his new set, since he was having the OB issues I am having on his former set. I think it is a service to potential owners to warn them that this is an ongoing, somewhat common issue with the SXRD line, perhaps with the exception of the XBR2. (I wish I had heeded all the complaints in XBR1 thread, and waited a while longer) Mark stated he had FOUR optical block replacements on his XBR1, so I thought he would be well aware if his new set has uniformity issues, or not. I am trying to determine if there is much chance of getting mine fixed to work properly. Sorry to not be a Sony fan boy. Maybe if you had two defective sets delivered, and then sat around today waiting for a repair guy to come, and then he came without the part to fix the set, you might not be such a happy camper about SXRD. Frankly, defective SXRD sets have caused a lot of grief to many owners, and I don't feel at all bad posting my experiences. That is what the forum is for. People are free to post the good, and bad about their sets, and thus help others make purchase decisions, and resolve issues they may have with their own sets. FYI: The repair guy says he loves the PQ on the SXRD, as do I, but he is leery about buying one due the many Optical Block failures.
post #2245 of 3250
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

I think it is a service to potential owners to warn them that this is an ongoing, somewhat common issue with the SXRD line, perhaps with the exception of the XBR2.

Considering this is your service guy's first OB replacement on an A2000, maybe you should rephrase that.

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Maybe if you had two defective sets delivered, and then sat around today waiting for a repair guy to come, and then he came without the part to fix the set, you might not be such a happy camper about SXRD.

Did you not gripe about this problem TV for MONTHS before you even bothered to arrange service for it? No offense, but having to live with it for a few more days when you've been living with it all this time (and frequently sharing - thanks) doesn't seem like much of an issue.
post #2246 of 3250
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Originally Posted by EricM407 View Post

Considering this is your service guy's first OB replacement on an A2000, maybe you should rephrase that.



Did you not gripe about this problem TV for MONTHS before you even bothered to arrange service for it? No offense, but having to live with it for a few more days when you've been living with it all this time (and frequently sharing - thanks) doesn't seem like much of an issue.

To your points, the service guy that came to my house works part time, so he indeed has not yet fixed an A-2000. Sony is his favorite brand of set in general, but he thinks they dropped the ball somewhat on the SXRD. His main job is at a tv station. He also said my set was not great, but a majority of people would probably not bother having it fixed. (which is how Sony gets by with all this ) . I do note that in the survey on AVS Forum about 20% have green haze issues that don't totally go away after good warmup. That is pretty high IMHO. Most products aim for under 1% defect rate.

As for the service call, the problem is not living with the tv a few more days. I freely admit if I had to pay for a new OB I would live with it as is forever. I am just not happy to have them tell me they would bring the part today, and then show up empty handed, and waste half my day. I put off repair for months because I have hopes that Sony is getting a handle on this issue, and replacement OB's might be of better quality. Read the XBR1 forum (with multiple failed OB replacements on many sets) if you want to see why I waited so long.
post #2247 of 3250
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

I do note that in the survey on AVS Forum about 20% have green haze issues that don't totally go away after good warmup. That is pretty high IMHO. Most products aim for under 1% defect rate.

The number with a non-uniform, localized green tinge (green blob) is closer to 10%. We're talking about a total of 19 people, and you know good and well that 5-10 of them are probably the same douchebag who refuses to go away.

It is a bad failure rate. But it's still not what I'd call a common problem, and I wouldn't go around expressing amazement that some good ones actually got made. Somwhere between 8 and 9 out of 10 AVS posters (who I have to assume are slightly more savvy about TVs than your average couch potato) who own A2000s have no green blob.

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As for the service call, the problem is not living with the tv a few more days. I freely admit if I had to pay for a new OB I would live with it as is forever. I am just not happy to have them tell me they would bring the part today, and then show up empty handed, and waste half my day.

I wouldn't be either. But that has nothing to do with the quality of the TV, and it REALLY has nothing to do with the settings/tweaks for it.

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I put off repair for months because I have hopes that Sony is getting a handle on this issue, and replacement OB's might be of better quality. Read the XBR1 forum (with multiple failed OB replacements on many sets) if you want to see why I waited so long.

Two different models with two different OB part #s. I don't see what one has to do with the other. I'll tell you this though: They'd replace my OB once and then I'd get a new TV, which is what many people have posted was their experience.
post #2248 of 3250
I just bought the 55A2000 today and I found one thing very irritating.
While it accepts 1080p over VGA it does add quite a thick border around the edges (ie it's downconverting the signal).

Is there any service menu setting to eliminate this.

I was really hoping to connect my 360 through VGA 1080p and I read the manual which states that 1080p is supported for VGA. The manual failed to mention the underscan/downconverting part however. :/

Edit: I've been ploughing through this thread and a lot of others but I can seem to find any info on this. Sorry if it's already been discussed.
post #2249 of 3250
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Originally Posted by UndaC View Post

I was really hoping to connect my 360 through VGA 1080p and I read the manual which states that 1080p is supported for VGA.

It doesn't say that. At least, mine doesn't. It does in the XBR2 manual, but the 360 VGA at 1080p doesn't seem to work with it.
post #2250 of 3250
I'm actually a new a2000 60" owner myself - former owner of samsung HLS-6187 but several of them had failed light engines and I was sick of dealing with it.


However, I know for a fact the A2000 WILL NOT support 1080p over VGA

1080p is ONLY SUPPORTED VIA HDMI

However a 1080p PC connection is possible with this TV via a DVI -> HDMI cord
and you PC video card DOES NOT have to be HDCP compliant.

So far I feel the A2000 is a good set. However this no 1080p support via VGA is for sure something I didn't expect either and a major blunder by sony...

Also my SA8300 loses sync over HDMI - but the picture seems just as good via component and doesn't suffer form this issue

Glad to be a new owner and hope to post in the future!
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