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post #31 of 154
I've been aware of this product fer a spell, but aghast at it's expense as well as it's application considerations.
At that price, you can buy a 9' diagonal MIrror, Black Flame mix, Rollers & Tray, Black Velvet, and Trim.
I'd think dealing with Mylar would be far more practical.
My 2 cents.
post #32 of 154
Thread Starter 
A shot with no ambient light:

post #33 of 154
MYNYM,

I have a question about the paint steps, you said 5 coats of 1:1:1 upw,poly,water as a base over the mdf.
Then, did you apply the BASE Components next and then apply the (2.0 oz) Color Components over it all?
How do you get the 2oz of color coat to cover the screen?
post #34 of 154
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Originally Posted by ktaillon View Post

MYNYM,

I have a question about the paint steps, you said 5 coats of 1:1:1 upw,poly,water as a base over the mdf.
Then, did you apply the BASE Components next and then apply the (2.0 oz) Color Components over it all?
How do you get the 2oz of color coat to cover the screen?

Looks like the BF mix that I used (05/12/2006) has since changed according to the Black Flame Light Fusion thread. The old instructions said to add 2oz of color components to the base components. It appears now the ingredients are in parts.

Basically stated I added 2oz of the color components to the Base and Viscosity ingredients which was the receipe for the Black Flame SuperLite mix.

So after I applied the 5 coats of the glossy white mix (UPW:MinWax:Water) I mixed up a batch of BF Superlite and applied 5 coats ontop of the white gloss base if that makes sense.

And for the record after the 2nd coat of BF I wet sanded down the screen using a 3m medium/fine wet sanding sponge care of MMan and PB's advice.

If you have any questions, let me know.
post #35 of 154
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Originally Posted by mynym View Post

I've yet to totally calibrate my Infocus 4805 but from what I have seen so far I am again blown away with the results compared to my bare white wall.

I have an Infocus 4805. I spent a few hours calibrating it using my neighbors calibration DVD. When I finsished I saved the settings. I flipped back and forth between the out of the box settings and the calibrated settings and they were so similar I didn't even bother to record the calibrated settings.

If I recall correctly you are in the Dayton, OH area, right?

I would be interested in seeing your screen to do a quick comparison with a strip of Polywall that I have, and maybe with a bit of fabric that I have available as well.

PM me if you are interested.

GL
post #36 of 154
mynym

I see you have your projector setup again.
Would you be able to do a quick comparison shot for me by showing an image half on the screen and half on the wall in ambient light ?


Bruce
post #37 of 154
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Originally Posted by bruce can View Post

mynym

I see you have your projector setup again.
Would you be able to do a quick comparison shot for me by showing an image half on the screen and half on the wall in ambient light ?


Bruce


Strange how this request is being quietly ignored...
post #38 of 154
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Originally Posted by Dogllama View Post

Strange how this request is being quietly ignored...

Not really ignoring, more like delayed a little. hehe.


Seriously. Sorry for not posting the bare wall shots sooner. The room that houses the projector is in limbo. I'm awaiting new cables and a JoyTech 420C component switch. I took awhile trying to figure out which one I wanted. As soon as my HT is setup I'm planning on taking some shots of the barewall, firehawk G2, studiotek 130 and Greyhawk. Bare with me. again sorry it's taken longer than I originally thought.
post #39 of 154
How embarrasing!

.....and here we all was a thinking ya had supthin' ta hide...., or mebe nuthin' ta show.

But how very thoughtless and inconsiderate of you for having other things to do!

OK, then. We're even. Right?

I'm kidding of course. But usually and eventially ever├Żone sits both sides of the fence. first "searchin for answers and decisions", then on to "doing/done it". Then others in the "SFAAD" dept. (...can be very impatiant when anxious for info....) want info and effort akin to the levels that I dispense.

......and I can't always get back to or initiate plans as promised either. Sometimes to a fault.

Giving a person his BOTD (benifit of the doubt) due often fall away to one just "doubt" when excitement / expectation rise.

Well I've been to and from that Well over a couple 100's times and even when freely helping, the choosing of what to do and when isn't alway governed bythe schedules of others.

Instead I must hope for understanding...., and usually I get it. But not always. :sad:

And so we come to see that the Author has bigger plans afoot as far as comparisons are concerned.

I'll wait for all that, done nicely.
post #40 of 154
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Originally Posted by mynym View Post

As soon as my camera charges back up and I get my HT back together I'll snap a couple of pics of some Stewart samples next to my BFLF. Expect to seem them sometime later this week.

Why is it embarassing? mynym stated by the end of last week. What's wrong with following up? No expectations, just plain old asking wha happened.

And on that note MM, how are you making our for next week's comparison?
post #41 of 154
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Originally Posted by gonelong View Post

I have an Infocus 4805. I spent a few hours calibrating it using my neighbors calibration DVD. When I finsished I saved the settings. I flipped back and forth between the out of the box settings and the calibrated settings and they were so similar I didn't even bother to record the calibrated settings.

If I recall correctly you are in the Dayton, OH area, right?

I would be interested in seeing your screen to do a quick comparison with a strip of Polywall that I have, and maybe with a bit of fabric that I have available as well.

PM me if you are interested.

GL

I'm actually in Columbus. How far away are you ?
post #42 of 154
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Originally Posted by mynym View Post

I'm actually in Columbus. How far away are you ?

Troy (north of Dayton) ... I might be out your way for a Buckeyes game this fall ... and quite possibly August 19th (a Saturday)

GL
post #43 of 154
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Originally Posted by benven View Post

Why is it embarassing? mynym stated by the end of last week. What's wrong with following up? No expectations, just plain old asking wha happened.


I WAS kidding, but if you want to disect it, the comment "Strange how this request is being "ignored" doesn't speak of anything but a mild 'bait', not a "question". But it WAS mild enough to rate a "tongue in cheek" response.

Butcha know, it really wasn't anything worth carrying forward after my reference to it being a joke..

As for next week, I'll most likely do the smaller task I mentioned. The larger endeavor must wait until after my surgery and upcoming trips (Late Aug/early Sept.)
post #44 of 154
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Originally Posted by gonelong View Post

Troy (north of Dayton) ... I might be out your way for a Buckeyes game this fall ... and quite possibly August 19th (a Saturday)

GL

I live in Columbus(New Albany) also and if you and gonelong set up a time this Saturday... I would love to come check your screen out. I believe I sent a PM a long time ago, but with no reply. I'm in the process of making a few screens and any help from someone who has already done it would be great.
~Nathan
post #45 of 154
mynym,

Any chance you can post those half wall, half screen, screen shots in ambient light sometimes soon?

Many are very anxious to see the results.
post #46 of 154
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Originally Posted by biglyle View Post

mynym,

Any chance you can post those half wall, half screen, screen shots in ambient light sometimes soon?

Many are very anxious to see the results.

I would like to see them as well.
post #47 of 154
Yawn. As I just stated in another post, I don't think we're going to be seeing many more comparison pictures. Oh well.
post #48 of 154
Thread Starter 
Sorry guys.

Again. I've been real busy with stuff. Spent the entire weekend putting together these desks. Didn't realize it would take so long.

In any case, I haven't forgetten. I really just need some time to go down and set it up and take the pics.
post #49 of 154
Awww......,
That was just 'ol "me" talkin' again.

He get's a round.
post #50 of 154
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Originally Posted by mynym View Post

Sorry guys.

Again. I've been real busy with stuff. Spent the entire weekend putting together these desks. Didn't realize it would take so long.

In any case, I haven't forgetten. I really just need some time to go down and set it up and take the pics.


honestly, it would only take minute? You seem to have plenty of time to post "other" pics?
post #51 of 154
Still waiting.
post #52 of 154
Is there a step by step writeup to duplicate this badboy? I have a cave setup, but my parents use their H27 on a white screen and have ambient light almost all of the time, with the room lit almost all the time. Its 10% of the time in the dark, so this looks like a great solution to their problem. Thanks!
post #53 of 154
Thread Starter 
I used Mission313's Guide as a base but substituted it out with 1/2" MDF and instead of painting the border black I decided to wrap it in velvet. And of course the Kilz for Black Flame. Since I used the heavier 1/2" MDF I went with the french cleat method for hanging it on the wall.

If you have any questions, let me know.
post #54 of 154
Another post and no pictures?? Whazzzzz uppppp?
post #55 of 154
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Originally Posted by benven View Post

Another post and no pictures?? Whazzzzz uppppp?


just a guess, but i'd say that the picture requests aren't gonna happen.
post #56 of 154
You are a wise person Dogllama. I can tell just from your name!
post #57 of 154
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Originally Posted by Dogllama View Post

just a guess, but i'd say that the picture requests aren't gonna happen.



DOG
I guess we will have to settle for your BFLF comparison screen shots
Bruce
post #58 of 154
Things are getting a bit suspicious. This same thread was started over at the Lumenlab forums. Same pictures, same questions, same no answers.
post #59 of 154
Thread Starter 
As promised, I finally had some time to take a couple of quick comparison shots.

For reference:

Black-out cloth far left, Stewart Greyhawk, Firehawk and Studiotek 130 in the middle and my BF screen on the right.

Sorry for taking so long.


post #60 of 154
hey thanks for living up to your word!

not to rain on the parade though, could we get some more pics? this time head on?

you can't really get a good idea of things when the pictures are taken from an angle, it messes with the lighting (which should be pretty even over your test area if you are to get an accurate idea of the picture)

also, not to harp, but can you throw something besides animation up for the tests, animation looks good on everything because its CG.

the best pictures to show while testing are pretty evenly distrubuted throughout the entire frame, like a establishing shot, or a landscape. something that has the same color and brightness showing over all the test frames.

thanks!

~D~
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