The "Official" Denon AVR-2307CI Thread - Page 4

Ya - Come on People - Dish it out [GRIN]!

For the money you can't go wrong.

I received and set up my 2307ci yesterday. It took me a few hours to get all of the settings correct, but I now have it functioning so that it now outputs all of the video inputs to its HDMI output, which then goes to my TV (50" Panasonic Plasma - TH-50PX60U). The inputs into my 2307ci are: Motorola DCT6412/2005 (set top box/dvr) (component video out, optical audio out) , Samsung DVD-HD755 (dvd player) (HDMI out), and Nintendo Gamecube (1 video out, 2 channel audio out) (waiting for the PS3). The sound is a big improvement over my Kenwood receiver, which was about 5 years old. I think I ran the auto-setup correctly, but I need to re-run it to make sure that it operated correctly (when I did it initially, the on screen displays weren't showing up on my TV, so it was difficult to confirm if it was executing correctly). Also, the 2307ci is quite a bit taller than my Kenwood, so I had to take a shelf out of my entertainment center to make the 2307ci fit correctly.

As I mentioned, I had my Motorola STB/DVR connected to the 2307ci via component video cables and digital optical audio. The 2307ci then output the video signal coming from the Motorola to my TV via the HDMI output. After spending some time watching the HDTV signal output to my TV, I realized that the HDTV signal was being degraded as a result of running it through the 2307ci. So, I decided to just connect the component video output from the Motorola directly to the TV (the picture is much better that way). Anyway, it was a little disappointing to see the loss in video quality. I will be getting the Motorola STB/DVR with an HDMI output in a couple weeks (from Comcast), and I'm hoping that I can run that through the 2307ci without any loss in video quality.

I received my 2307 last week. WOW what a difference from my 10 year old Kenwood receiver. I never though my Polk speakers could sound this good. Setup was fairly easy. I am loving it. Only con is that some of the remote functions are on the back of the remote.

I noticed the QUALITY Degraditation also. Component in to 2307CI to HDMI
OUT of 2307CI.

I thought it was my imagination. I guess not. My DVR does have HDMI. Initially
I hooked it up that way to the 2307CI until I started to get messages on the
Projector screen that I could not watch a live HD Sports event via Comcast unless
I disconnected the HDMI and Connect via Component. Somewhere - it was getting
a HDCP error although everything in my video chain is SUPPOSE to be HDCP
Compliant.

I have my Denon-2910 hooked directly to my HDtv(DVI), and my Scientific Atlanta 4200HD (component).
The 2307 I primarly use for sound. I also have hooked up, my philips HDRW720 and my philips streamium SL400i, to the components inputs of the 2307, thencomponent out to HDTV.

The automatic setup feature, set my fronts to Large, I changed back to small since I have a SVS powered sub. Also changed the frq to 100hz from 80hz.
Other than that it works beautiful.

30 years ago, I was "at the top of my game" when it came to Hi-Fi, but I'm a bit lost right now in the midst of setting up my new 2307CI. All speakers are attached and doing fine. My question is primarily the input cabling and assignment procedure. I have a:

Comcast DCT3412 HD STB/DVR (comp video out, hdmi out, analog audio out, SPDIF and a "yellow video RCA jack"

Samsung DVD-P231 DVD Player (comp video out, coax digital audio out, analog audio out)

JVC CD Player (analog audio out, digital optical out)

Vizio L37 HDTV (LCD) (you name it, it's got it)

Denon 2307CI (you know what it has)

Would someone please propose a basic setup.....IN and OUT with kind of cable?
I have read about "assigning" various inputs.....any help there?

I feel like I know just enough to be dangerous, so any assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Barry

Progress is being made! I called Denon and got some help.....

Component video from HD Cable Box to Comp-1 on the 2307.
Component video from DVD to Comp-2 on the 2307.
Digital coax audio from DVD to Coax-1 audio input on the 2307.
CD player analog audio to CD audio input on the 2307.

I made the assignments as well. I can now watch a DVD and hear DVD audio at the same time! YEAH!

The biggest problem right now is that TV audio is very, very weak. I've got analog audio cables going from the CABLE box audio out to the TV/DBS input on the 2307. (CD audio is loud and clear when plugged into the same input jacks.) Hmmmmm. Any idea about upping the Cable TV volume? Is it a STB issue? A 2307 setup issue? Operator error???

Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Barry

More prgoress! Using digital coax audio cable from STB to 2307 makes TV audio come through just fine!!! Another victory!!!

Is it common for video to the TV to take about 15 seconds to appear after switching inputs or changing some channels? It's as though the TV or the 2307 is taking some time to sort the signal out and decide how to display it???

Pardon the additions to this thread if they seem too basic, but I hope it helps someone with similar problems.

Thanks,
Barry

Stopped into Video Only to get another digital coax audio cable and got some great info which helped to remove a mental roadblock I had created for myself. Most of you have probably been through this already, but I had really hoped that a receiver like this would be able to handle audio AND video through it and operate seamlessly. Well, you know where I'm going with this.

NO VIDEO THRU THE 2307CI.

HDMI from cable box to TV. Composite Video from DVD to TV.
Digital Audio from cable box to 2307 (Coax-1)
Digital Audio from DVD player to 2307 (Coax-2(

Now I just switch video inputs on the TV and select the corresponding audio on the 2307. We can even just turn on the TV for a quick peek and have audio thru the TV speakers if we wish.

I think I've got it!!!

My sister ordered one and I found set up fustrating because the manual is very poor. I NEVER managed to get any display from the receiver, setup menus and such, on the flat panel. I am also getting an HDCP conflict when hooking up the cox motorola cable box via HDMI, the cox say that my display is not HDCP compatible or something like that and then I only get a green screen.

However, I found the sound excellent and I was able to pass both TrueHD sound and HD video from the Toshiba HD-DVD player.

Hum That is NOT what page 15 and 16 of the manual says????

Video through the 2307CI works fine for me.

"Video through the 2307CI works fine for me." 9/23/06

What made the difference????

HDMI Video always worked good. Digital in = Digital Out

HD [1080i] Component [analog] to HDMI [digital] degrades the QUALITY.

Their internal scaler is not up to the task. You might never
notice it. I have a Front Projector on a 12 ft. Screen.

I will be cutting a ventilation hole in my so-called 'Entertainment Cabinet', but I just want to make sure the 2307ci will have adequete ventilation.

Denon lists it at 16.4" D, but sometimes manufacturers don't list the depth including the ports. Plus I need some other partial measurements, as I would like to overhang the front of AVR.

*Can someone give the Depths of:

1. Front of Case -to- Front of Front Feet
2. Case
3. Volume Knob
4. Back Ports

Those last three should equal 16.4" D

I guess 3 & 4 are standard, but I am not sure.

Thank you

Since I have a cabinet also, mine fits right in. Before I had an Onkyo DS797 and I could barely close the panel window.

I would give about 1" more for the knob and back posts. not sure how deep is your cabinet mine is about 18".

I'm going to replace my 6 year old receiver this year and, as result, I've been following this thread with interest. I like to ask you contributors what attributes of the 2307CI, if any, make it a better choice than the 2807 which, at this time, is widely available for the same price (or slightly less) and probably has at least as good, if not better reliability.

Thanks.

I would love to hear feedback on this as well.

I plan to replace my Denon AVR-2700 which I've been using for ~8 years. I had finally decided the 2807 was out of my price range and was looking into the 2307ci. I wasn't aware prices had fallen so much on the 2807 until reading this post.

After a bit of research, I can pick up the 2807 for ~$100 more than the 2307ci.

My biggest concern is sound quality. I definately don't want to lose anything when compared to my 2700.

I'm also curious to see what Denon units Circuit City will be offering in October.

Well, my cabinet is 17.38" D, but I can prop up the AVR with a shelf and overhang the volume knob and front of the case (up to the front feet) out of the cabinet.

Also, I will be cutting ventilation holes at the back, so I will gain another 2.63" of air, not surface.

I really wish, though, if I could get those partial measurements I asked for before, as ventilation space is important for an AVR, so I can judge this precisely.

I know the usual specs for a volume knob is 0.38", and back ports is 0.88", so I can assume the Denon is the same, but at least, can someone give the Depths of:

1. Front of Case -to- Front of Front Feet
2. Case (No Knobs/Ports)

One can't be sure if the 16.4" D is accurate and furthermore, exactly what it includes, that is why I ask. Thanks.

I have not been overly happy with the 2307CI since it was replacing
a high-end pre-pro [Lexicon].

The only reason I bought the 2307CI was so I could have 5.1 Analog in
from my Toshiba HD-A1, to experience TrueHD.

Initially I tried the 5.1 Analog route.
1) Extremely disappointing.

Then I tried the PCM via HDMI
2) Much better.

Today I Installed a RANE SM-26B 6/8 Channel analog Pre-Amp
between the HD-A1 and the 2307CI.

I used the HD-A1 test tones to calibrate, balance and adust the
SM-26B so all 6 channels were delivering the correct sound levels
on the Digital SPL meter.

Then I put in POTO and selected TrueHD - via 2307CI External IN.

Much much better. NOW I have SOUND and LFE.

I'm sure this will hold me over until some next generation upgrade
is available [GRIN]!

QZ1, I don't have a 2307CI to measure but you can get the exact dimensions on the Denon web site (in mm). It shows that 16.4" includes the knobs and back connectors.

usa.denon AVR-2307CI_Dimensions.pdf

Thanks, just what I was looking for.
They had a dimensions diagram posted recently that didn't have all of those partial dimensions listed. I can also estimate very closely those dimensions not listed, because it is scaled.

Looking as the posting so far, i am inclined to build something along this line:

B&W 601 S3 for L/R and LCR 60 S3 for center
Denon AVR-2307
Denon DVD-1930
HD cable set top

Because i don't have space for rear surrond, i intend to bi-amp the front L/R speakers to get better audio quality when listening to CDs.

Is this a good combo for music and movies?

Don't discount 5 channel stereo mode (as well as the 7 channel that comes with the newer units). I thought I would listen to mainly 2 channel stereo for quality when I purchased my AVR-2700. I never listen to music in anything but 5 channel stereo now. It just sounds so much better.

my 2106 is being replaced with a 2307 tomorrow nothing but problems with 2106
in for service 3 times and things have only gotten worse so finally i am getting a replacement and an upgrade to boot!

Does anyone have any info on the AVR-887 when compared to the AVR-2307ci? It appears to be the same receiver except for the RS-232 port, 12v triggers and zone 2 outputs. Its MSRP is $100 cheaper.

I'm trying to decide between the AVR-887, AVR-2307ci and the AVR-2807.

got my 2307 to replace my broken 2106 was temporally using an old yamaha sounds great! what a difference

Ok, I'm stuck,

I have the monoprice HDMI 5x1 switcher and the Denon 2307CI, Toshiba A1 HD-DVD player and cox cable.

Hooked up Toshiba and cable box to the switcher, switcher to the 2307CI and 2307CI to my Mitsubishi 65731.

DVD worked fine but Cable box said my "device is not HDCP compliant" and that the HDMI port was "blocked." Can't get it to work. Now, the TV and switcher are HDCP compliant and so is the receiver! Hooking directly to the TV works as well.

Hook up both devices to the switcher and the switcher direct to the TV, just put the audio to the receiver (not what I want, but trying it). With this configuration, the TV worked fine (ok so it's not the switch), but the Toshiba A1 gets an HDMI 1 error! ARGH. So I ended up (for now) completely bypassing the 2307CI except for the digital audio connections. DVD player goes to the #2 HDMI port on the TV and the Cable goes into the switcher, switcher to the #1 port on the TV. All works.

Question is...why the HELL can't I use the receiver and output to the TV with my cable box? And then again, why does the Toshiba have a problem with the switcher? I WANTED to use the receiver in the loop but use the switcher so I don't have to switch inputs on my TV all the time with my Harmony and it all can work a little more simply. Anyone have an answer to this?

Thanks!

Julian

Well, my problems (see my post) stopped me from doing this but while I had it hooked up from my DVD and cable box to the switcher, to the receiver and out to TV, the OSD DID IN FACT work just fine. I believe it WAS in 480p but still, it worked and the only output I had to the TV was HDMI so I know that's how it was getting thru.

Julian

If you only have a Cable Box and Toshiba - why not just use the two HDMI ports
on the 2307CI? I don't think that was one of the configurations you said you
tried?

FIRST QUESTION - is your Toshiba running version 2 Firmware?

SECOND QUESTION - I would like to hear the results of the 2307CI HDMI Test.

There have been a lot of reported HDMI handshake problems with all brands of
external switches. Just because it works directly to the TV does not eliminate it
from the possible problem space.

Even though your TV is HDCP compliant - there have been occasions where
a EDID changed needed to be updated