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post #301 of 5054
jawatkin & jschuman --

Thanks for the quick responses!

I had looked at bruzzi, but I got lost (it was probably really late, bleary eyed) but that direct link was perfect!
post #302 of 5054
How about posting post-break-in 9UK settings? I'm not home now, but will do so later? Don't forget advanced color settings if used, and settings for HD and SD.
post #303 of 5054
Across the board, I use:
Color temp: normal
ADC: Off
Sharpness: 0 (I've tested this a lot....I've yet to see why you'd take it out of 0)
Colors: factory set....considering experimenting with red levels over HDMI

Moto Moxi 9133i HDTV via HDMI:
Brightness = -1
Picture = 10

I've found white levels to be basically your call because you can't crush whites without the service menu....i just experimented for awhile before deciding that 10 wasn't too bright, yet increased the 'pop' a bit while maintaining contrast...and it helped the wife factor too..

Xbox 360 via VGA:
Games:
Brightess = -10
Picture = 10
DVDs:
Brightess = -1
Picture = 10

Again, 10 was chosen subjectively. Anything higher makes my eyeballs start on fire anyway.
post #304 of 5054
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin6969 View Post

Across the board, I use:
Color temp: normal
ADC: Off
Sharpness: 0 (I've tested this a lot....I've yet to see why you'd take it out of 0)
Colors: factory set....considering experimenting with red levels over HDMI

Moto Moxi 9133i HDTV via HDMI:
Brightness = -1
Picture = 10

I've found white levels to be basically your call because you can't crush whites without the service menu....i just experimented for awhile before deciding that 10 wasn't too bright, yet increased the 'pop' a bit while maintaining contrast...and it helped the wife factor too..

Xbox 360 via VGA:
Games:
Brightess = -10
Picture = 10
DVDs:
Brightess = -1
Picture = 10

Again, 10 was chosen subjectively. Anything higher makes my eyeballs start on fire anyway.

Sounds similar to my settings for HD. Some programs look a bit soft to me, so I put sharpness +1, others at 0. Still haven't figured out a perfect overall setting for picture, brighteness and input level. Different content requires individual tweaking. In general, input level + 8-12, picture + 6-14, brightness +0-6. I also use black extension +1 on some material.

Of course, on SD material, all bets are off, and settings can change pretty wildly!
I don't remember what i use, I'll check, but I've certainly been able to optomize the image so that it resembles the old CRT more than whan I first got the 9UK, when SD looked terrible. I'll post SD settings later.

Anyone else want to post their post-break-in settings?
post #305 of 5054
Question I've been meaning to ask:

Anyone know if you can adjust overscan beyond the basic menu's settings? I know Bruzzi has directions for consumer models via the service menu. If there is a service menu option for overscan adjustment on the 9UK, that would be great.

480 coming in from my moto 9133i is so badly overscanned, not even the basic menu option is far enough. haha.
post #306 of 5054
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Originally Posted by skanter1 View Post

Sounds similar to my settings for HD. Some programs look a bit soft to me, so I put sharpness +1, others at 0. Still haven't figured out a perfest overall setting for picture, brighteness and input level. Different content requires individual tweaking. In general, input level + 8-12, picture + 6-14, brightness +0-6. I also use black extension +1 on some material.

Of course, on SD material, all bets are off, and settings can change pretty wildly!
I don't remember what i use, I'll check, but I've certainly been able to optomize the image so that it resembles the old CRT more than whan I first got the 9UK, when SD looked terrible. I'll post SD settings later.

Anyone else want to post their post-break-in settings?


When you say "SD settings", do you mean settings for 480p? Or do you create "cinema" or "dynamic" settings and use it for SD shows?
post #307 of 5054
Quote:
Originally Posted by pdawg17 View Post

When you say "SD settings", do you mean settings for 480p? Or do you create "cinema" or "dynamic" settings and use it for SD shows?

I use a different input for SD as it goes through S-Video to an SD Tivo. HD goes through HDMI from SA8300 cable box. DVD is DVI, differnt setting for that too.Settings are saved at the input. I use "cinema" and "standard" for day/night viewing. I guess I could save SD HDMI settings on the "dynamic" setting if need be.
post #308 of 5054
Just got notified from my rep at Visual Apex is expecting the TH-65PF9UK tomorrow.
post #309 of 5054
Well I finally got my 50PH9UK in the mail today. It's beautiful, except that as soon as I turned it on I noticed it was buzzing very loudly. If the volume is off I can still hear it after I walk out of the room, and if the volume is at a low level I can still hear buzzing over it.

Is anybody else's set buzzing this loudly?
post #310 of 5054
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Originally Posted by AlwaysAngryGuy View Post

Well I finally got my 50PH9UK in the mail today. It's beautiful, except that as soon as I turned it on I noticed it was buzzing very loudly. If the volume is off I can still hear it after I walk out of the room, and if the volume is at a low level I can still hear buzzing over it.

Is anybody else's set buzzing this loudly?

I had mine replaced because of buzzing...although the second one is better, I can hear it buzzing on low volume from about 8 feet away...even without bright scenes there is a constant buzz from the right side of the set (facing the screen)...I think having it on the wall makes it worse b/c the sound reflects off the wall and out to the front...some people say their set is "whisper quiet" but neither of the two I have had is...

If it makes you feel better, when I had the louder buzzing set, I got to a point where I didn't notice it anymore (the brain learns to filter it out)...
post #311 of 5054
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysAngryGuy View Post

Well I finally got my 50PH9UK in the mail today. It's beautiful, except that as soon as I turned it on I noticed it was buzzing very loudly. If the volume is off I can still hear it after I walk out of the room, and if the volume is at a low level I can still hear buzzing over it.

Is anybody else's set buzzing this loudly?

If you can hear it after you leave the room that is WAY too loud. I would have the set replaced. My set is one of the ones which happens to be "whisper quiet". There is just too much of a difference between this and what you are describing. You spent too much $ to have that happen.
post #312 of 5054
Well, I'm gonna see how it sounds to my ears in a few days. I'm afraid of replacing it and getting a set back that is worse, or getting a set with some dead pixels (as far as I can tell mine has none).

What settings should I use during the break in period? I turned it on cinema mode and up the picture and brightness down to about -10 because I wasn't sure where they were supposed to be. Is that okay or should they be lower/higher?

Also, I plugged a VGA cable into my computer briefly and couldn't get the resolution 1:1. The only options available were 1366x806 and 1360x768 (if I remember right). What are you guys doing exactly to get 1:1? I also had a black bar on the side of the screen in one of the resos, and an image that ran off the screen in both of them.

Thanks.
post #313 of 5054
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysAngryGuy View Post

Well, I'm gonna see how it sounds to my ears in a few days. I'm afraid of replacing it and getting a set back that is worse, or getting a set with some dead pixels (as far as I can tell mine has none).

My 42" 9UK is totally silent. I don't think buzzing is good.

Quote:


What settings should I use during the break in period? I turned it on cinema mode and up the picture and brightness down to about -10 because I wasn't sure where they were supposed to be. Is that okay or should they be lower/higher?

Thanks.

I think cinema mode and pic and brightness at 0 is fine, and sharpness at -1 to be safe. -10 is unnecessary. Also, download the break-in DVD discussed on this forum and break in the panel when you're not watching. You can get to 100 hours in a few days.
post #314 of 5054
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabatta View Post

If you can hear it after you leave the room that is WAY too loud. I would have the set replaced. My set is one of the ones which happens to be "whisper quiet". There is just too much of a difference between this and what you are describing. You spent too much $ to have that happen.

I totally agree that it's worth trying a second time, but if the second one buzzes too (like mine) when does it end? That either means I have a lot of bad luck with this tv or there are a lot of duds out there...also from what I understand, you can't compare to a 42" 9UK because they don't put out as much power and therefore should be quieter...
post #315 of 5054
The two factors I've read about regarding buzzing are:

1. You live in high elevation. (i thought this was semi-resolved)
2. You're feeding it dirty power. (you buy a quality power conditioner)

My 50" 9UK has nearly 1000 hours on it, I don't hear any buzzing....I'm in semi-low elevation and am using no power conditioners.

The other day I tried to hear a peep out of my 9UK.....I finally heard the 'slightest of buzzez' when my ear was literally 1inch away from a particular area of the back side.

My recommendation is that if you're in low elevation and using a quality power conditioner and you're still hearing buzzing.......then I'd get it replaced immediately.

If that doesn't work.....then I'd recommend getting an old priest and a young priest.
post #316 of 5054
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysAngryGuy View Post

Well, I'm gonna see how it sounds to my ears in a few days. I'm afraid of replacing it and getting a set back that is worse, or getting a set with some dead pixels (as far as I can tell mine has none).

What settings should I use during the break in period? I turned it on cinema mode and up the picture and brightness down to about -10 because I wasn't sure where they were supposed to be. Is that okay or should they be lower/higher?

Also, I plugged a VGA cable into my computer briefly and couldn't get the resolution 1:1. The only options available were 1366x806 and 1360x768 (if I remember right). What are you guys doing exactly to get 1:1? I also had a black bar on the side of the screen in one of the resos, and an image that ran off the screen in both of them.

Thanks.

First, the buzzing is bad! My 50" 9UK is totally silent. Even after running for 4 days straight on Discovery HD during my break-in time.

As for break-in settings those sound similar to what I did, but perhaps others could chime in whether that is good enough.

To get 1:1 pixel mapping it depends entirely on what video card and drivers you have. My HTPC has an ATI x300 in it, and it allows 1366x768. The image fits perfectly with no black bars or overhang. Note that I am using DVI rather than VGA, but both are capable of this.

I've heard about bad luck with a lot of the ATI line though, namely being stuck at 1360 across due to being an even multiple of 8. NVidia cards may be better in this regard. If your laptop only has intel integrated graphics, I'm not sure what your options are but I have seen some new notebooks (Sony in particular) that are native 1366x768 so it may work if you update your video drivers.
post #317 of 5054
I'll add my voice to those whose 50" 9UKs aren't making a sound. I love my new plasma and even non-calibrated (still in break-in) my wife's first comment was something akin to "the window effect" - cha-ching!

One thing I've found is that the aspect ratio seems to be locked on Full when using the component input, regardless of whether my Dish rcvr is sending an HD signal or an SD signal - which is ok since I can control aspect with the Dish rcvr.

Can't wait to get it hanging on the wall and all the cables run behind the wall!

Jason
post #318 of 5054
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin6969 View Post

The two factors I've read about regarding buzzing are:

1. You live in high elevation. (i thought this was semi-resolved)
2. You're feeding it dirty power. (you buy a quality power conditioner)

My 50" 9UK has nearly 1000 hours on it, I don't hear any buzzing....I'm in semi-low elevation and am using no power conditioners.

The other day I tried to hear a peep out of my 9UK.....I finally heard the 'slightest of buzzez' when my ear was literally 1inch away from a particular area of the back side.

My recommendation is that if you're in low elevation and using a quality power conditioner and you're still hearing buzzing.......then I'd get it replaced immediately.

If that doesn't work.....then I'd recommend getting an old priest and a young priest.

So I should try a THIRD 9UK? Man, am I unlucky...too bad it's my first online purchase experience too...doesn't feel too good...

I haven't tried a power conditioner but the old plasma I had (Vizio) which was well known for its buzzing problems, did not buzz at all so I wouldn't expect it to be a "dirty power" problem...maybe there is a "bad batch" of 9UKs out there? Other than the noise pollution it produces, is the buzzing a sign of anything bad going on inside?
post #319 of 5054
As for my videocard, I'm using an nvidia 6800GT. I didn't really try to fiddle with it much as I didn't want to leave it on too long since I had just got the set and didn't want the desktop to burn in, but I'll play around with it more later. The only thing I noticed was that I couldn't select the right 1:1 resolution right off the bat.

On the buzzing, I am using a pretty good power conditioner, and in fact I've tried quite a few of them to see if that would fix it and it has not. I'm seriously thinking about sending it back now.
post #320 of 5054
I keep hearing a lot of people having buzzing issues on plasmas of ALL brands (just check the samsung threads for the same issues there). What elevations are you guys located at?
post #321 of 5054
Are these Panasonic buzzing panels coming from the same assemby plant?
post #322 of 5054
Quote:
Originally Posted by pdawg17 View Post

So I should try a THIRD 9UK? Man, am I unlucky...too bad it's my first online purchase experience too...doesn't feel too good...

I haven't tried a power conditioner but the old plasma I had (Vizio) which was well known for its buzzing problems, did not buzz at all so I wouldn't expect it to be a "dirty power" problem...maybe there is a "bad batch" of 9UKs out there? Other than the noise pollution it produces, is the buzzing a sign of anything bad going on inside?

I'd grab a good power conditioner first....something local so you can return it if it doesn't do a thing maybe.

I've read several times that users have placed a power conditioner into their chain and have noticed buzzing going away completely.
post #323 of 5054
Real quick question regarding the 'sounds' I hear when I turn on my new TH-42PH9UK.

I leave the set in standby mode (red light on when the TV is 'off'). When I turn the TV on I hear three quick clicks followed by a slight whoosh sound. Is this normal?

I'm pretty sure everything is ok as the set is working flawlessly and it is not loud during operation at all. I guess I am just looking for someone to say 'yeah, that's not a problem'.

Thanks!
Jeff
post #324 of 5054
Whoosh sounds right. My 50" does that.
post #325 of 5054
The best power conditioner that I have is a Monster HTS2000 which I have tried and didn't do anything for me with the buzzing.

Has anybody tried getting it repaired under the panasonic warranty? I know there are some service centers that are pretty close to where I live. I would be more comfortable with that rather than replacing the entire set.
post #326 of 5054
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysAngryGuy View Post

The best power conditioner that I have is a Monster HTS2000 which I have tried and didn't do anything for me with the buzzing.

Has anybody tried getting it repaired under the panasonic warranty? I know there are some service centers that are pretty close to where I live. I would be more comfortable with that rather than replacing the entire set.

With my first set, I called Panasonic and they actually sent out a tech to the house (weird huh?) and she said the buzzing was "normal"...very irritating to hear her say that (although it was a Friday afternoon so I'm sure she wasn't too motivated to do much)...let me know if you have someone come out...I'm curious if a swap of the power board would help...
post #327 of 5054
Quote:
Originally Posted by fasTLane View Post

Whoosh sounds right. My 50" does that.

Yeah, I'm not so concerned about the whoosh sound as I'm pretty sure that's just the cooling fan starting up. The click-click-click that immediately precedes it is what I'm worried about/questioning.
post #328 of 5054
I have more of a click-click on startup with the 50. Relays I guess.
post #329 of 5054
Well my new 50" will arrive in two days and I can truly say I feel like an expectant father all over again. The pedastal has already arrived, the new stand has been assembled, componets slid into place, and wires ran. All that is needed is the delivery of the new bundle of joy.

I have one concern regarding calibration.

How can I learn how to calibrate my new Panny from the service menu as the pro's would. Or do I have to call a pro in to do this because of the equipment involved. I understand there are calibraton dvd's that can be used. Do you recommend one?
post #330 of 5054
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