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post #3121 of 5064
I am thinking about getting some cheap wall speakers and powering them with the 9uk. I'm not spending almost $300.00 for the Panasonic ones! I am getting the 42" for my bedroom and I don't want or need a 5.1 system. Who makes some cheap, but decent sounding wall mountable speakers that can be powered by the internal amp of the 9uk?

I am planning on hooking up my HD cable box via component and the red/white audio cables. I was also planning on using a component to vga cable to hook up my dvd player. If I do that how do I get audio with the vga connection?

I may just get a cheap 2.1 HTIB system like the Philips 6500, if that turns out to be a better "bang for the buck".
post #3122 of 5064
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Originally Posted by richard korsgren View Post

just wonderin'...sent in requested documentation of a 9uk purchase about 7 weeks ago; to date, nothing. How long before you got your 5 year warranty statement and $100 from Panasonic?


good question. I just mailed in both 2 weeks before the deadline.

Its been my experience though that rebates take forever.

by "requested documentation" do you mean you mailed in all your stuff 7 weeks ago?

You could start expecting it between week 8-10. I don't know why but rebates normally take that long.
post #3123 of 5064
The rebate form says 8-14 weeks to process.
post #3124 of 5064
Quote:
Originally Posted by iluvmysh View Post

Since I don't have a wall mount yet, can I run my tv with my dvd player (playing the break-in DVD) hooked up while the tv is in the box (of course taking off the top part).

In short - yes. And sadly, I've been watching tv (200+ hours) still in the box on the foam... I'm building the custom credenza/stand and is taking a while... It'll be SO nice to have it out of there but it's fine.
post #3125 of 5064
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

I am planning on hooking up my HD cable box via component and the red/white audio cables. I was also planning on using a component to vga cable to hook up my dvd player. If I do that how do I get audio with the vga connection?

The Component/VGA inputs come with a 3.5mm mini-plug stereo connector:





You can use:


A) 3.5mm/RCA adapters with regular audio cables:





B) 3.5mm/RCA Cables:



.
post #3126 of 5064
Quote:
Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

I am thinking about getting some cheap wall speakers and powering them with the 9uk. I'm not spending almost $300.00 for the Panasonic ones! I am getting the 42" for my bedroom and I don't want or need a 5.1 system. Who makes some cheap, but decent sounding wall mountable speakers that can be powered by the internal amp of the 9uk?

I am planning on hooking up my HD cable box via component and the red/white audio cables. I was also planning on using a component to vga cable to hook up my dvd player. If I do that how do I get audio with the vga connection?

I may just get a cheap 2.1 HTIB system like the Philips 6500, if that turns out to be a better "bang for the buck".

Wall mountable? Do you mean in-wall speakers or on-surface with wires hanging down? If it goes in your bedroom and sound is not important, I'd shove the speakers above or near the the head of the bed. Maybe BEHIND the headboard. You won't need to turn it up high and it'll be like earphones. I like your HTIB idea - and just run a long audio cable to the TV as you have the sound system near the bed. I bet a nice computer or gaming speaker system may do the trick - those are cheap and small (cabling from different sources may be an issue). I'd run cable and DVD into the HTIB and all sound will be generated from one source (it's a receiver). Depends on your remote as well... All-in-one or using standard equipped...
post #3127 of 5064
Opus and Zarchitect: Thanks for the continuing information, which I will continue to rely upon. I did order the 50-9UK today with speakers, hdmi board, cables, and peerless rack ($3000 total package with shipping). I think Opus got it right when he said it'd be my a** if this monitor craps out. I looked the 50" Vizio but never saw any reviews that spoke highly of its quality of picture and construction. Most reviews emphasized its value for price. Never considered Westinghouse. Until I found this forum, most of my reliance was on reviews in cnet and other sites. Also never saw a Vizio forum dedicated to its product like this forum here. Had I gone consumer, I probably would have gone with the Samsung 5053, mainly because of its multiple connections (esp. pc input). But ulitmately it was the 9uk industrial robustness at the same or less price point that won out with the 5 year warranty. I guess I must share, if I didn't before that the one requirement, other than cost limits, was 50". Before ordering it today I even reconfirmed again that a 42"9UK would not do (as it would a $1000 less as a total package). Nope - they wanted the 50". There's just not much competition against the 9UK for these requirements at 50".

Yes, I am still concerned about IR and Burn In but, hope, it will not be too much of an issue. I will personnaly break in the panel with 100-200 hour of low brightness operation on a non static image. Appears lots of people are using the Discovery Channel for this.

Can anyone advise me on the best IR clearance procedure and whether it be automated to run daily on its own.

I am sure some are asking why, given my low grahpics needs, why did I get the HDMI blade. Because it fit in the budget and, when checking into upconverting DVD players, saw they require HDMI output. Also, because I suspect some day in the next 5 years the cable TV supplier to the courthouse will go digital and I would already have the HDMI blade that fit and could be hard to find at a later time if Panasonic changed models/specs on me.

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Projectors - (off topic for 9UK forum members)
To Opus and Rich about projectors. Funny you should mention those. We currently have 3 projectors in 3 of out 8 courtrooms. They are very successful and capable, especially with the younger prosecutors. But, out of our 50 prosecutors, there are still those who will have nothing to do with a projector, they want the TV. So I will continue to mount projectors (We use the Sanyo Pro-x series) in the courtrooms the other prosecutors wish to use them. Mine has one. But if anyone has alternative recommendations for a projector that can fill a 9' wide screen at 20-25' for $1000-1500, let me know as the Sanyo Pro-x is no longer available. We have a NEC on a rollling cart that throws about a 15' screen at 20-25 feet so it it used in Grand Jury and can not be mounted in a courtroom.
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Thanks again, Mark
post #3128 of 5064
Howdy everybody!

I guess I'll power up my 50" 9UK one day. As I think I mentioned earlier, my daughter gave me my first grandchild last Thursday and the 9UK was delivered Friday. Needless to say I haven't had much time to get the 9UK going but last night I spent four hours putting together a jigsaw puzzle TV stand. Then this afternoon/evening I spent about five hours wiring up a homerun circuit for the 9UK...we live in a circa 1950 house and though we upgraded the service/breaker-box a few years back we haven't replaced all the wiring thus the need to get a 3-wire grounded circuit installed. Man, I ain't as young as I used to be!!! It wouldn't have been so bad but I had to make three trips under the house which, because of a central support wall under the house, involves entering at one end of the crawl space, going to the far end and then back to the end you start from...and of course you have to do the opposite to exit. My old bones are aching!

Anyhow, I got the stand and the electricity squared away.

Not sure what Friday night will accomplish in regards to the 9UK (might get to rock the grandbaby, though!)

Saturday will definitely be a big day:

Moving the 32" Sony out of the way.
Put the new stand in place.
Mount the Panasonic stand to the panel and place it on the wooden stand.
Hook up (if it arrives tomorrow) the Onyko 790 HTIB, my old DVD player, the DirecTV box, and the Samsung OTA tuner.

...and finally,...power up the 9UK! Any tips or suggestions? Things I need to look out for? I'm going to follow the break-in recommendations that I've gleaned from the AVS forums...I've burned a DVD of Evangelos break-in dvd....if you have any suggestions I'd appreciate them.

Thanks,
Ed
post #3129 of 5064
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Originally Posted by Intheswamp View Post

...and finally,...power up the 9UK! Any tips or suggestions? Things I need to look out for? I'm going to follow the break-in recommendations that I've gleaned from the AVS forums...I've burned a DVD of Evangelos break-in dvd....if you have any suggestions I'd appreciate them.

Unless there is a global way to do it that I never paid attention to, make sure you take each input you are using off of torch mode (at least for the first 100 or so hours), since there are independent settings for each.
post #3130 of 5064
The 509uk is finally over my fireplace and its a beautiful thing.
Just in time for the Superbowl.
I connected my XBOX 360 via VGA and set it to 1360x768
I am getting this 2" black bar on the right side of the display.
I have moved my horizontal position to 60 which shifted the image to the right about 2" and now the image is center with maybe an eigth of an inch of black on each side.
What is causing this shift?
TIA
post #3131 of 5064
Quote:


I am thinking about getting some cheap wall speakers and powering them with the 9uk. I'm not spending almost $300.00 for the Panasonic ones! I am getting the 42" for my bedroom and I don't want or need a 5.1 system. Who makes some cheap, but decent sounding wall mountable speakers that can be powered by the internal amp of the 9uk?

I'm using the Infinity Primus 150s. You can get them at Crutchfield's for about $60 each. Although Infinity recommends a min amp of 10 watts (the 9UK is only 8 watts), they work fine. Don't expect to them to blow you out of your chair at full volume though. That said, I've found the power output totally adequate.

I also read from other posters that the Polk Monitor speakers work well with this set. Note that they are designed to be compatiable with 8 watt amps (whatever that means).
post #3132 of 5064
Quote:


The 509uk is finally over my fireplace and its a beautiful thing.
Just in time for the Superbowl.
I connected my XBOX 360 via VGA and set it to 1360x768
I am getting this 2" black bar on the right side of the display.
I have moved my horizontal position to 60 which shifted the image to the right about 2" and now the image is center with maybe an eigth of an inch of black on each side.
What is causing this shift?

I can't remember whether the sizing controls are only in the service menu or in the user menu. Have you tried going to the service menu and adjusting the horizontal size. The best thing to do would be use a overscan pattern from Avia, GetGray, or DVE and adjust the horizontal and vertical size to eliminate your over/underscan.
post #3133 of 5064
Will the Adjustable Tilting Wall Mount Bracket for LCD Plasma from Monoprice com work for the 42PH9UK? The one I am looking at is Product ID 2852. Thanks for the help.
post #3134 of 5064
And they said it cannot be done.... My 3-1/2 yr old TH-42PWD6UY developed a crack and is dead. Found out that the "glass" replacement will be more $$$ than a better TH42PH9UK which is on its way...

A couple of questions:

I. Is there a list of optimal settings someplace on this forum developed already? The one we had for the 6 series was great and there are already 105 pages here...
II. Anyone interested in whatever salvageable parts are within the 6 series I have? I live in NJ.
post #3135 of 5064
Quote:
Originally Posted by online123 View Post

Will the Adjustable Tilting Wall Mount Bracket for LCD Plasma from Monoprice com work for the 42PH9UK? The one I am looking at is Product ID 2852. Thanks for the help.

I am using this mount. It works great, and the price was right! Bear in mind that your set will end up about 3" away from the wall once mounted. There is also a *very* slight downward tilt when in the vertical position (maybe a degree or 2...I solved this by filing two of the spacers a bit)
post #3136 of 5064
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek View Post

A couple of questions:

I. Is there a list of optimal settings someplace on this forum developed already? The one we had for the 6 series was great and there are already 105 pages here...

Sorry to hear that your set died a premature death. Good news is that black levels should be quite a bit better than your 6th gen.

Check out this thread for settings:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=779168
post #3137 of 5064
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebrda72 View Post

Opus and Zarchitect: Thanks for the continuing information, which I will continue to rely upon. I did order the 50-9UK today with speakers, hdmi board, cables, and peerless rack ($3000 total package with shipping). I think Opus got it right when he said it'd be my a** if this monitor craps out. I looked the 50" Vizio but never saw any reviews that spoke highly of its quality of picture and construction. Most reviews emphasized its value for price. Never considered Westinghouse. Until I found this forum, most of my reliance was on reviews in cnet and other sites. Also never saw a Vizio forum dedicated to its product like this forum here. Had I gone consumer, I probably would have gone with the Samsung 5053, mainly because of its multiple connections (esp. pc input). But ulitmately it was the 9uk industrial robustness at the same or less price point that won out with the 5 year warranty. I guess I must share, if I didn't before that the one requirement, other than cost limits, was 50". Before ordering it today I even reconfirmed again that a 42"9UK would not do (as it would a $1000 less as a total package). Nope - they wanted the 50". There's just not much competition against the 9UK for these requirements at 50".

Yes, I am still concerned about IR and Burn In but, hope, it will not be too much of an issue. I will personnaly break in the panel with 100-200 hour of low brightness operation on a non static image. Appears lots of people are using the Discovery Channel for this.

Can anyone advise me on the best IR clearance procedure and whether it be automated to run daily on its own.

I am sure some are asking why, given my low grahpics needs, why did I get the HDMI blade. Because it fit in the budget and, when checking into upconverting DVD players, saw they require HDMI output. Also, because I suspect some day in the next 5 years the cable TV supplier to the courthouse will go digital and I would already have the HDMI blade that fit and could be hard to find at a later time if Panasonic changed models/specs on me.

--------------------------------------------
Projectors - (off topic for 9UK forum members)
To Opus and Rich about projectors. Funny you should mention those. We currently have 3 projectors in 3 of out 8 courtrooms. They are very successful and capable, especially with the younger prosecutors. But, out of our 50 prosecutors, there are still those who will have nothing to do with a projector, they want the TV. So I will continue to mount projectors (We use the Sanyo Pro-x series) in the courtrooms the other prosecutors wish to use them. Mine has one. But if anyone has alternative recommendations for a projector that can fill a 9' wide screen at 20-25' for $1000-1500, let me know as the Sanyo Pro-x is no longer available. We have a NEC on a rollling cart that throws about a 15' screen at 20-25 feet so it it used in Grand Jury and can not be mounted in a courtroom.
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Thanks again, Mark

I think you made the right choice with the 9UK. After all, you are one of the few on this forum who is actually using the 9UK in a commercial application. It is after all a commercial grade product. I think that there was also a question in the past of whether consumer plasmas would be covered by warranty when used in commercial applications.

As for IR/burn in, from what you have described, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Only the PC/powerpoint usage may get you into trouble, but as long as you are not viewing the same powerpoints over and over again, you shouldn't have any trouble. Just be aware of the windows start menu and common desktop icons. The start menu is the thing that most PC's have in common and may be your biggest risk of burn in. To prevent the start menu burn-in, use the negative screen saver. That should keep everything good.
post #3138 of 5064
Quote:
Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

I am thinking about getting some cheap wall speakers and powering them with the 9uk. I'm not spending almost $300.00 for the Panasonic ones! I am getting the 42" for my bedroom and I don't want or need a 5.1 system. Who makes some cheap, but decent sounding wall mountable speakers that can be powered by the internal amp of the 9uk?

I am planning on hooking up my HD cable box via component and the red/white audio cables. I was also planning on using a component to vga cable to hook up my dvd player. If I do that how do I get audio with the vga connection?

I may just get a cheap 2.1 HTIB system like the Philips 6500, if that turns out to be a better "bang for the buck".

Any speakers will work. If you've got an old boom box around with detachable speakers with wires just plug 'em in. Any old stereo speakers will do as well. Also, any old computer sound system speakers.

-Rich
post #3139 of 5064
Quote:
Originally Posted by renlopez View Post

I think you made the right choice with the 9UK. After all, you are one of the few on this forum who is actually using the 9UK in a commercial application. It is after all a commercial grade product. I think that there was also a question in the past of whether consumer plasmas would be covered by warranty when used in commercial applications.

As for IR/burn in, from what you have described, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Only the PC/powerpoint usage may get you into trouble, but as long as you are not viewing the same powerpoints over and over again, you shouldn't have any trouble. Just be aware of the windows start menu and common desktop icons. The start menu is the thing that most PC's have in common and may be your biggest risk of burn in. To prevent the start menu burn-in, use the negative screen saver. That should keep everything good.


Also, one thing that I have done with my HTmac on the 9uk as it's the only time I've noticed the slightest IR...turn the wobble feature on...It's not great for TV or DVD veiwing as some find it annoying, but for a PC or Mac application, I think it will help. Also, when I have gotten IR with a few programs, it literally only took one or two negative screen saver wipes
post #3140 of 5064
Thanks everyone for the help with my speaker questions.

I don't have any extra speakers hanging around so I'll have to look around for some. I want a set that will look good mounted on the wall next to the Panny.

I am still leaning towards the Philips 6500 HTIB unit. The only reason I haven't picked it up yet is because I've read a lot of reviews from people having problems with dvds getting stuck.

Now my only problem is that VA raised the price of the 42" $271.00 in one day! I guess I should have pulled the trigger a few days ago. There are a bunch of other vendors offering the same price that VA was offering. But after reading this entire thread and hearing so many positive things about VA I would like to buy it from them. Maybe they will lower the price again in a few days....
post #3141 of 5064
Quote:
Originally Posted by rpauls View Post

Any speakers will work. If you've got an old boom box around with detachable speakers with wires just plug 'em in. Any old stereo speakers will do as well. Also, any old computer sound system speakers.

-Rich

That will fly well with the wife.... What is the big complaint with the Pany noise-makers? It's just 12% of the total cost of the panel- 12%!
post #3142 of 5064
Quote:
Originally Posted by AZdigital View Post

The aspect control will not work unless the 8300 is set to full screen. If the 8300 is zoomed, then the 9UK will not adjust the aspect. You can choose where to do any zooming. IMHO, the best zoomed picture is with the 8300 on normal and the Panny on "Just", but for breakin, the 8300 on Zoom2 eliminates the channel logo by zomming in past it.

I just got mine hooked up yesterday, and with my 8300 set on Auto DVI/HDMI, which displays the native resolution of the channel, the 8300 display says 480p regardless of whether I am on an HD station...

Anyone have a clue what is going on?

Thanks...

Recently acquired same setup (42" 9UK and Atlanta-Scientific 8300HD via HDMI) and realized, through this thread, I am not the only one experiencing these issues. Is there a way to automatically adjust the screen width in SD without manually zooming in and out with the 8300HD remote controls? The "aspect" button on the Panny remote appears to be non-functional when receiving a signal from the 8300...via HDMI, that is. Based on the signal specs in the manuals, the component connection will support a 480i signal (haven't tested it yet), but the HDMI blade does not, and without a 480i signal, the picture mode cannot be adjusted using the "aspect" button. Is there a known work-around, other than possibly sacrificing the HDMI for component?
post #3143 of 5064
ecto,
Not sure about the HDMI input, but for the component input, aspect control works for both 480i and 480p signals.
post #3144 of 5064
After running the wide sceen set up on the 8300, in the settings I selected select Up convert 2. For some reason the Auto HDMI/DVI option did not work.

8300 set up
turn box off
press the guide and info buttons at the same time
Select the advanced set up and follow the screen instructions.
Exit out then turn on the box.

Turn the box on and press SETTINGS twice
Scroll to Screen Format
See if Auto DVI/HDMI option works select this oiption. If you have no picture after you cycle power to the box no biggie. Connect the cable box with any analog connection, go back into Screen format and select Upconvert 2.

On the 9UK it might to default to full. But all channels are full screen.
On the 42 9uk select full. All my channels fill the screen, no bars.

Scott
post #3145 of 5064
I'm trying to decide whether to wall mount my 9UK or not It's on a wall that we will see the side of the set when coming and going into the room. How flush does it fit? Any pics of a 9UK from the side with a wall mount so we could see first? Don't think we will need tilt since the bottom of the set will be about 3 feet off the ground?


thx,

bob
post #3146 of 5064
Quote:
Originally Posted by spongebob View Post

I'm trying to decide whether to wall mount my 9UK or not It's on a wall that we will see the side of the set when coming and going into the room. How flush does it fit? Any pics of a 9UK from the side with a wall mount so we could see first? Don't think we will need tilt since the bottom of the set will be about 3 feet off the ground?


It will vary slightly depending on the mount. There is about 2&3/4" between the back of the bezel and the wall, and approximately 1&1/4" between the back of the monitor and the wall. I would imagine it would look fine if approaching from the side. The only reccomendation I would make for asthetics is to remove the two plastic handles on the upper back of either side.

You are correct, you will not need a tilt.
post #3147 of 5064
Quote:
Originally Posted by spongebob View Post

I'm trying to decide whether to wall mount my 9UK or not It's on a wall that we will see the side of the set when coming and going into the room. How flush does it fit? Any pics of a 9UK from the side with a wall mount so we could see first? Don't think we will need tilt since the bottom of the set will be about 3 feet off the ground?


thx,

bob

I have mine wall mounted on a tilt mount and I can see it from the side when entering the room. Its really no big deal to me. Hardly noticeable unless you are really looking for it. I would post a picture but I have not had any success posting pictures. I think pro-mount makes a very nice flush wall mount if you don't need the tilt. Make sure you really think about that though, I don't think I would like mine on the wall without the ability to tilt it just a little bit.
post #3148 of 5064
Anyone who has this set up...this question is for you?

I recently set up my Directv HD DVR and 9UK and in the settings on the DVR I selected under menu > setup > display settings...native "on" I immediately noticed when I did this it caused a problem when trying to play a pre-recorded program from my VOD list. When I select the program and hit play I get no signal from the panny! If I hit exit and go back to tv mode my picture comes back up. If I go back into the menu settings and turn native "off" then the problem goes away??

Does anyone with this similar setup have this problem or can you give it a try and see if you have a similar issue? I am really confused as to why this would give my panny a problem when viewing a show from my recorded list. Thanks in advance for your help.
post #3149 of 5064
Just want to poll the thread. I may be out of place to the die hard panny fan. And I'm sure your response will be in favor of panny. But I thought i'd ask anyway...may I get some objective opinion that I can use to make my decision.

I bought the Vizio 47" from costco because of the cost and it's 1080p. I consider 47" and 50" size in the same play field.

But I've come to learn quite a bit as I'm playing around with the Vizio.

1. SD Looks horrible...using unscramble cable. I know that I should only use this for HD content only but there aren't that many HD programs. So I have to watch SD sometime, CNN, MSNBC, Disney with the kids.
2. Black level and contrast is bad.
3. Color is just not vibrant/brilliant - appear so soft even after following so many suggested setting.

considering returning it because of this.

So does SD look anyway better its Panny? Would you rate the panny far better than Vizio? Cnet has the Panny rate of 8.3 while Vizio only come to 6.6. Would you rate this differently?

Thanks for any feedback.
post #3150 of 5064
I mananged to get the 50" 9UK mounted on it's stand and sitting on the cabinet tonight. Unfortunately I couldn't find the RCA/BNC adapters that was listed on the packing list so basically the only connection I made tonight was the Samsung H260F OTA tuner. I purchased an HDMI blade along with the panel, but I haven't installed it yet. The OTA tuner was connected with an s-video cable. I know this toward the lower level of connectivity, but...it got me powered up. Even with the s-video cable the picture is, well, stunnning! I can't wait to get either a HDMI or acomponent cable connection.

So far I've watched a mix of the NBC/CBS//PBS Friday night HD programming. Should I be overly concerned with the pillar-boxed commercials?

For now I've got PICTURE and BRIGHTNESS turned down to -8 and sharpness turned down to -5....all other settings are factory default "0" or "off".

I've got a Onyko 790 (refurb) and a used Toshiba A1 on it's way to round out the setup. In the meantime I need to hook up my old dvd player and the DirecTV SD receiver. Anybody know of any HD satellite deals/promotions going on? My contract with DirecTV was fulfilled years ago. ??

Now, this going to seem like a stupid question, but...how should all of this wire together??? Here's the equipment:

Samsung DBT-H260F - composite, component, s-video, HDMI connections

Tohsiba HD-A1 DVD player - composite, component, s-video, HDMI connections

RCA Satellite Receiver - composite and s-video for now, HD receiver will have ???

Onkyo S790 HTIB

Thanks for any help,
Ed

Did I say WOW!!! What about STUNNING!!!!????? ...and this is with s-video!
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