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post #3721 of 5064
setting up my first Flat screen system, nice to see all the insights available here in this forum!! Bought the 42", waiting for the Wall Bracket. Patience truley is a virtue

From what I have reviewed I'm leaning on purchasing the Toshiba a-1 DVD player over the Oppo.

I'm still understanding the connections needed on my current Direct TV sat box and future Toshiba DVD player config.

Im searching for the downlaod for the breakin DVD file - does anyone have a quik link to that??
post #3722 of 5064
Ok I found the download - There is so much pro and con info on break in DVD - makes ya wonder if it is truley worth it - I will do it non-the-less for peace of mind.

Any Panny 42" owners have advice concerning their hookup and first time experiences??
post #3723 of 5064
Run the burn in dvd. It is totally worth it. It should only take 4 or 5 days
post #3724 of 5064
Hay guys one more question, does anyone know when the 10uk models should be coming out, and if there will be any changes?
post #3725 of 5064
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Originally Posted by slb View Post

Okay, so it's the protective glass filter that's cracked, not the plasma panel. That is repairable, but I think it might cost $500 to $600 for the replacement glass. I'd still check with the vendor about getting a replacment.

-Steve

Well I talked with newegg some more and a rep went ahead and filed a claim for me since it was so early. He said they will most likely process it no problem, but AIT might put up a fight, so we'll see within the next 3-4 days. BUT yeah if worst comes to worst then that's a very big sigh of relief if it's actually repairable. Will suck real bad if I have to pay for it, but at least it's better than nothing.
post #3726 of 5064
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Originally Posted by antand View Post

I've noticed that SD channels look better from my old DTV Hughes Series2 Tivo via Svideo through a VP vs. SD channels from my HR20 via HDMI through the same VP. Go figure...

When viewing SD, my family prefers the PQ of my recent DIRECTV SD DVR via the S-Video interface and the Panny full screen mode over the PQ of SD from my H20 via HDMI. Colors look washed out to me but it is a fairly sharp picture, and fills the screen nicely.

For grins I scanned through HD and SD channels with my H20 (connected via HDMI) and SD does look fuzzy (once I saw HD routinely, SD broadcasts had a tendency to look like crap to me anyway) and I noticed a wide variation from channel to channel. Some channels look great, some poor, the soap channel was in between. The PQ, however, is about the same as my rear projection SD CRT screen of about the same size connected to my older TIVO DVR via S-Video.

I know it doesn't help, but its an observation.
post #3727 of 5064
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Originally Posted by dkclol View Post

Well I talked with newegg some more and a rep went ahead and filed a claim...

I've ordered TWO open box 50" 9UKs from newegg and BOTH of them arrived via UPS with shattered screens. They filed damage claims with UPS both times and I received a refund. Next time, I will make the guy wait while I unpack it to see if it is broken.

The most annoying thing is waiting around all day for UPS to arrive. They didn't come the day they were supposed to despite the item being "out for delivery" all day. So, three days wasted stuck at home waiting for a cracked TV to arrive... and paltry compensation offered.

I love newegg for computer stuff, but this is ridiculous. I guess I'll go with visual apex, since everybody seems to be pretty happy with them.
post #3728 of 5064
Sorry to hear about the issues a couple of you had with Newegg. That's very unfortunate.

I will throw my hat in the ring for Visual Apex and their customer service. When I bought my 9UK, it arrived from the shipper with a huge crack in the glass that ran all the way across the bottom of the screen. Fortunately, I opened the box with the delivery guy (who felt my pain, BTW), and refused shipment.

To their credit, VA sent me a new 9UK the same day, and I had it 3 biz days later. VA's customer service is top notch, and a primary reason for my buying from them.

Best of luck getting your claims processed.
post #3729 of 5064
Also check with your credit card company, most cover pretty much any damage, loss, theft or stupidity on the buyers part ( I am NOT saying that is the case here, just qualifying how much they cover ) for the first 90 days of nearly any purchase. So, if newegg doesn't come through, the CC might. Certainly, and AMEX of VISA Signature or above would cover that.
post #3730 of 5064
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Originally Posted by csundbom View Post

I would like to chime in on this one, as I have some experience with it. As we all know, consumer models implement a large number of "features" to make them stand out in a showroom in comparison with other sets. Commercial/Industrial models normally do not implement these features, and are much more geared towards picture accuracy and following the NTSC/ATSC standards. The reason is that industrial monitors are used in critical viewing applications (like medical, manufacturing, studio broadcasting etc). You don't want a situation where the spot on the lung from the MRI scan was really an DNIe edge enhancement artifact (for obvious reasons).

The consumer models have features that have been developed for a long time to attract and seduce the viewer into believing that they are seeing a "better" picture. The features work extremely well, and that's the reason they are implemented. It's similar to over-seasoning your food with too much salt, and adding MSG. It will taste great, but it won't be the actual taste of the food item.

I can't count the number of times I finished a calibration and the client asked me to show him the "before" picture. I switched the set back to "Vivid", and the client exclaimed "This is much better!". These features really, really work in creating an illusion of "better".

"Better" for the eye/brain translates in a brighter picture with higher contrast and very sharp edges. I'm sure there are evolutionary reasons for this. Features such as very blue grayscale (the eye sees bluer as brighter), floating black level (to introduce an illusion of higher contrast), sharpness control (to add false outlines to objects) all contribute to fooling us into the picture is indeed better. However, they have nothing to do following the standards we have for television. The standards are very well defined (not like in the audio world), and by implementing them correctly, you will get the correct picture.

I'm being very categorical here, there is only one correct picture. There is no room for personal preference or taste when it comes to following a standard. It's either right, or it is not.

What the television manufacturers have realised is that by deviating from the standard they sell more sets. Just like adding a "Loudness" button to the stereo makes people believe is sounds better, because it boosts frequencies that the ear likes to hear. The sounds becomes "cleaner" (less complex).

What you are losing with these features are of course color accuracy and detail. It takes a little while to get used to watching a properly set up television that implements the standards right. After a few minutes however, you will start seeing all these details you never realised were there before. You will see subtle shadings and colors that you never saw before. Switch the set back to "Vivid" and the brain snaps right back into panic-mode with the set now demanding your attention with all it's noise, sharp edges and blueish whites.

So, this of course makes side-by-side comparison of sets very hard. I've done several of these, and the client always prefers the Vivid/most inaccurate set over the properly calibrated one. However, take the bad set out of the room, give the client a couple of days to actually watch the calibrated set, and he/she almost always comes around the appreciating the calibrated picture. There is a difference in actually watching a set and having your primal brain instincts stimulated by "features".

That said, I'm not sure if this helps explain what Rich is seeing or not, but it's a very common situation. There could well be a bad set or something else involved, but please be aware of the pitfalls with side-by-side comparisons. A better test is to watch one set for a day or two, then swap it out for the other set and watch that one for a couple of days. Assuming the industrial model is calibrated correctly, it should give you a more accurate and pleasing picture in my experience.

Great read Carl, thanks.
post #3731 of 5064
I also received my first 9uk from VA with a cracked screen. I received it late in the afternoon on the Tuesday before New Years weekend. I called VA and they had another one shipped the next day.

I e-mailed a picture of the plasma box laying FLAT on the delivery truck. VA sent the picture to Expeditors as evidence of their negligence and VA hammered them to ship the replacement 2-day air at no additional charge. I had the new PDP on Friday just in time for the Bowl games.

I'll definitely shop VA again.
post #3732 of 5064
Slight OT. Does anyone have a link or info about hooking up computers to to 42" 6UK, or this 9UK? I hooked up my laptop last night for the first time, of course the output resolution wasn't EXACTLY what the monitor probably wanted, but the PQ was pretty darn good.

I ran a ripped DVD off it, and slingplayer PRO from an HD source over the LAN, and the quality was actually pretty excellent.

Some things I noticed, though, were the image seemed to take a minute to catch up, sometimes it looked as if it was a lag or something, this was from the DVD, and the video color, contrast, brightness seemed to have a little TWITCH in which it would vary just a bit from second to second. All in in, it worked pretty well.

Anyone know of a nice PC remote that would allow some commands to be sent? I might try my ipaq, using IR.
post #3733 of 5064
Is there currently any Panasonic terminal card that will allow the 9UK to accept a digital 1080p24 or 1080sf input?

I only see these formats listed under the component and VGA cards.

Thanks
Rich
post #3734 of 5064
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Originally Posted by rpauls View Post

Is there currently any terminal card that will allow digital 1080p24 or 1080sf input to the 9UK?

I only see these formats listed under the component and VGA cards.

Thanks
Rich

if you had an hd player outputting 1080p 24 over hdmi wouldn't that do it?
post #3735 of 5064
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Originally Posted by rexdigital View Post

if you had an hd player outputting 1080p 24 over hdmi wouldn't that do it?

I guess the question was ambiguous. The terminal cards are accessories for the display. I'm asking if there's any way to make the 9UK *accept* a digital 1080p24 input.

THanks]
Rich
post #3736 of 5064
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Originally Posted by rpauls View Post

I guess the question was ambiguous. The terminal cards are accessories for the display. I'm asking if there's any way to make the 9UK *accept* a digital 1080p24 input.

THanks]
Rich

No. There is not. I believe it can accept them via Analog, but there is probably not much point since the panel will not run at a multiple of 24hz so we are just moving the 3:2 processing to another point in the chain.

- Rich
post #3737 of 5064
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Originally Posted by Dilweegie View Post

I've had my 9UK for about 3 months now. Yesterday I turned the set on to discover a band of yellow lines, about an inch thick stretching from the top middle of the display to the center of the screen. I figured it might have something to do with the computer hooked up via the vga cable so I changed to the satellite input (component).

Problem is on its way to resolution:

I called Panasonic Tech Support and they set me up with an authorized repair facility that said they could send someone over in 40 minutes! I was prepared to wait several days for an appointment. Anyway, sure enough they showed up 40 minutes later, picked up the 9UK and left me with a 42" PX60U as a loaner.

They said this is a relatively common problem and one of the boards has to be replaced, which they'll order right away. They said I should have my set back in 3 or 4 days.

Panasonic plasma concierge service. Love it!
post #3738 of 5064
I'm noticing one odd thing about my 9UK.

Whenever there are dark scenes in movies there is some flicker in the picture.

I first saw this on "the incredibles" when incredible and frozone are masked sitting in frozones car at night and talking to each other.

It still flickers when the movie is paused so i know its not the dvd.

I've now seen it on other movies, but its always where scenes are very dark.

anyone know whats causing this?
post #3739 of 5064
OK.........
42"UK Flat screen is up and look'n FINE

Current setup is RGB hookup of dvd (progressive scan) Toshiba A-1 or Oppo to come later.

Sat box is Not I repeat NOT HD so that is in the works too.

Im enjoying DVD

and Im about to research the settings for optimal view (I understand thats preference oriented)

Otherwise as I enjoy this beauty of a Monitor, and it looks gorgeous!, I totally look forward to learning and establishing settings to make this baby POP!

Great Forum for feedback and knowledge!
post #3740 of 5064
Does anyone know exactly what it does? I like it on to help take out the red push on green trees, etc.


bob
post #3741 of 5064
and went with the 42" set.

Really amazed by the picture. I went to all of the stores and looked at all of the sets and thought, "Yeah, they look good, but really, the best pictures are big $. I hope I'm happy with the Panny..." Now its up and been in service for a week and it just blows me away. Couldn't be happier.

VA was fantastic and luckily no shipping problems. The set got here before the mount! Had a problem with the first mount vendor and ended up going with Mounts & More. Great company and got the Peerless mount that holds the set 1" away from the wall. Really looks slick.
post #3742 of 5064
has anyone received their paperwork for the 5 year warranty? i mailed my application off when i received my 9uk from VA back in january and i have yet to receive anything from panasonic...
post #3743 of 5064
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Originally Posted by buiyahkah View Post

has anyone received their paperwork for the 5 year warranty? i mailed my application off when i received my 9uk from VA back in january and i have yet to receive anything from panasonic...

Just got mine yesterday; mailed mid-Jan. No word on the $100 rebate, though.
post #3744 of 5064
Bought a Harmony 550 and this setup came one step closer to ease of use.

I have to say the commercial series while it has its "quirks" (defined by lack of stand, speakers, and not so simple hookups), is a FANTASTIC buy. I obtained mine via Newegg, and couldn't be happier from a Sunday night purchase to a Thursday receipt date. All worked well.

My current state of use is not optimal and am purchasing H D sat, and H D / U C Player.

Wife is still reeling that we have a comfortable 42" display, 8'-10' viewing distance bedroom environment. (plus the harmony remote makes it all work!)

I can interpret setups, and mounts, etc. So as those before have mentioned the UK sets may not be for all, but... for those that can "put it together"

.........Fantastic!!

(more to come)
post #3745 of 5064
Hello Fellow 9UK Owners,


Can anyone with a XBOX 360 help me get the 1080i signal displayed correctly via VGA?I am using the 360 HD DVD Player and want to upscale standard definition DVD movies to 1080i.When changing from 1366x768 to 1920x1080 my 50"9UK goes haywire and dispalys a very dark almost black color and does not display the correct aspect ratio,I can only see half of my dashboard.I then changed the RGB sync signal from Auto to VBS and the picture cleared up but the image is still shifted to the left about 3 inches.I fiddled with the horizontal positioning and horizontal size settings but the image is shifted too much and I cannot see the whole dashboard.Can someone Please share your settings with me,hopefully there is nothing wrong with my Panny.I performed all updates for my Xbox via Live and dont know what else to do.

TIA,

robnsin1
post #3746 of 5064
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Originally Posted by robnsin1 View Post

Hello Fellow 9UK Owners,


Can anyone with a XBOX 360 help me get the 1080i signal displayed correctly via VGA?I am using the 360 HD DVD Player and want to upscale standard definition DVD movies to 1080i.When changing from 1366x768 to 1920x1080 my 50"9UK goes haywire and dispalys a very dark almost black color and does not display the correct aspect ratio,robnsin1

The 9UK will not accept a signal with resolution higher than 1600 x 1200. Try 1125(1080)/60i.

Glenn
post #3747 of 5064
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Originally Posted by GlennV View Post

The 9UK will not accept a signal with resolution higher than 1600 x 1200. Try 1125(1080)/60i.

Glenn


Thanks,


These are the only resolutions I can choose from,I beleive the XBOX can only output 1080p not 1080i via VGA.Can anyone confirm a 1080i signal via VGA?



640 x 480
848 x 480
1024 x 768
1280 x 720
1280 x 768
1280 x 1024
1360 x 768
1920x1080
post #3748 of 5064
Question:

If I buy a HDMI output only DVD upconverting player and I don't have the HDMI blade, Couldn'y I just run a HDMI to DVI cable with a dvi/analog adapter to the serial input on my 42"UK Monitor.

Wondering
post #3749 of 5064
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Originally Posted by robnsin1 View Post

Can anyone confirm a 1080i signal via VGA?

You do not need a TV that supports high definition to use the Xbox 360 system. Like all consoles before it, Xbox 360 works perfectly on standard-definition TVs (the resolution for standard def is 480 interlace).

The high-definition support for Xbox 360 is dynamic, so even if a game is designed with 720p in mind, but your TV only supports 480p, 1080i and 1080p. Xbox 360 runs the game in the best resolution your TV offers (up to 720p, 1080i and 1080p).

If you do plan on running games in high definition with your HDTV, you'll need the Xbox 360 Component HD AV Cable, which comes standard with the Xbox 360 system (not the Xbox 360 Core System) and is sold separately as well.

If you're using the Xbox 360 VGA HD AV Cable to connect your Xbox 360 console to a computer monitor or TV monitor with a VGA connection, you'll have the opportunity to select from a variety of resolutions. They are:
640 x 480
848 x 480
1024 x 768
1280 x 720 (equivalent to 720p)
1280 x 768
1280 x 1024
1360 x 768


Whether using the Xbox 360 Component HD AV Cable or the Xbox 360 VGA HD AV Cable, you'll find the resolution settings in the System menu on the Xbox 360 Dashboard. Select Console Settings in the System menu, and then select Display to find all your resolution options.

I'd try the 1360 x 768.

Glenn
post #3750 of 5064
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Originally Posted by lionclawz View Post

Question:

If I buy a HDMI output only DVD upconverting player and I don't have the HDMI blade, Couldn'y I just run a HDMI to DVI cable with a dvi/analog adapter to the serial input on my 42"UK Monitor.

Looks like you could do that, but I think you meant the PC Input (VGA), rather than Serial input. Pins 1, 2, and 3 of the PC input are simply Component signals.

EDIT: Well, heck no, you can't do that! The hdmi outputs a digital signal and the vga input is analog! ($1 to Rich)

Glenn
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