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post #4471 of 5064
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Originally Posted by pdawg17 View Post

If you look at a greyscale bar that increments, do you see only grey or are a few of the higher IRE boxes slightly red and others slightly green?


after the calibration, the greyscale bar was quite neutral. i will post the charts as soon as i receive them from the isf tech. the red and blue fluctuate every so slightly, but overall it's neutral. the biggest dip is blue at 0 ire. it was a bit low but not hateful.
post #4472 of 5064
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

Hi bitwize,
I have measured this effect on my panny, shown below. The jump from "off" to "on" is represented in the 1st two points, from 0.045 to 0.080 cd/m^2. There is also another jump in the middle that happens on my display when going from the 60% pattern to the 70% pattern (45 to 50 cd/m^2) This also shows you the "real-world" contrast ratios I can achieve, 833 when the max image level is <50 cd/m^2, 660 when the max image level is between 50 and 100 cd/m^2




That is good to know, Zoyd. Thanks for sharing. It proves I'm not "crazy"...heheh. Many others have stated there is no jump in black from "off" to "on." Not sure if there would be variation from sample to sample, but I'm guessing it's present in all the 9UKs.
post #4473 of 5064
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Originally Posted by Bitwize View Post

That is good to know, Zoyd. Thanks for sharing. It proves I'm not "crazy"...heheh. Many others have stated there is no jump in black from "off" to "on." Not sure if there would be variation from sample to sample, but I'm guessing it's present in all the 9UKs.

yeah, it's hard to see unless your eyes are dark adapted and you know what to look for. Just goes to show you how sensitive our eyes really are. I'm also not sure if it is visible if you have your brightness set too low, I'll have to check that out. You could check to see if the 9UK shows the same jump between the 60 and 70% patterns, that would be interesting to know.
post #4474 of 5064
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Originally Posted by Bitwize View Post

after the calibration, the greyscale bar was quite neutral. i will post the charts as soon as i receive them from the isf tech. the red and blue fluctuate every so slightly, but overall it's neutral. the biggest dip is blue at 0 ire. it was a bit low but not hateful.

Wow...that's impressive...based on the calibrations I had done, I didn't see how anyone could get red consistent...that's good to know....
post #4475 of 5064
Has anyone posted about watching B&W movies on a plasma and how when you shift your eyes to the left, right, up, down, you get a rainbow effect.
post #4476 of 5064
That should be unlikely unless you are sitting rather close. The red green and blue are distinct and separate, but they all are "on" at the same time unlike some other technologies. Therefore the only chance of seeing rainbows would be if you are able to discern the individual subpixels upon movement. I have never seen it on mine, but if anyone else has they should chime in. I watch very very little B&W, BTW.
post #4477 of 5064
Hello,

When I attempt to hook my Xbox 360 up to my 9UK, it give me a visible picture however it is red in tint.

I'm returning the cable tomorrow.

This exact thing happened to me before, when I hooked up my older Xbox via the VGA connection.

I checked and made sure the setting was selected to component, but this did not resolve the issue.

When I set it to RGB it did make the screen turn green which is expected.

Any suggestions?

Update: I've replaced the cable going between the Xbox and the TV however the red is still there. Is it possible that the terminal board is installed poorly or it is faulty? I'll attempt to test it with another xbox and see how that affect it.


Thanks,
post #4478 of 5064
3 questions...fellow owners/fans of Panny's 50" monitor:

1) What should my settings be for the th-50ph9uk for the first 100 hours? (on the set and the output of the Directv box..there's a button for aspect on the remote of the DTV box)
2) After the first 100 hours?
3) how important is the hdmi card add-on vs. using the component hookup? (I have a DTV hd dvr, and plan to watch movies and mostly tv/dvr stuff)

Thank you!
post #4479 of 5064
Wow! another price drop? just got back from surfing at visual apex...
post #4480 of 5064
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Originally Posted by CRT_Afterlife View Post

Has anyone posted about watching B&W movies on a plasma and how when you shift your eyes to the left, right, up, down, you get a rainbow effect.

Yes as matter of fact. There is an effect in plasma's that is similar to the DLP rainbow effect. It's sometimes called "green flash" and is most apparent in high contrast edges of B&W when your eyes scan across the image. I have seen it many times when when watching B&W material. It is thought to be related to the pyschovisual mechanism called fusion flicker discrimination.
post #4481 of 5064
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Originally Posted by noodles1_tx View Post

Hello,

When I attempt to hook my Xbox 360 up to my 9UK, it give me a visible picture however it is red in tint.

I'm returning the cable tomorrow.

This exact thing happened to me before, when I hooked up my older Xbox via the VGA connection.

I checked and made sure the setting was selected to component, but this did not resolve the issue.

When I set it to RGB it did make the screen turn green which is expected.

Any suggestions?

Update: I've replaced the cable going between the Xbox and the TV however the red is still there. Is it possible that the terminal board is installed poorly or it is faulty? I'll attempt to test it with another xbox and see how that affect it.


Thanks,

hmm....make sure your 9UK's VGA is set to RGB and not component...it's a choice in the signal menu.

I can't think of any settings in the 360....just make sure it's set to 720 or 768. Don't try 1920x1080...won't work.
post #4482 of 5064
Alright - I'm torn. Here's my dilemma...

On DirecTV, I get both a Standard-Def and a High-Def version of each of my local channels. For programs broadcast in Standard-Def, I've started to watch/record the SD channel as opposed to the HD channel, so that I can have gray pillarboxes as opposed to the black ones that come with an HD channel broadcasting an HD show.

Anyone else think this is logical, or would everyone still record/watch the HD channel to get the slightly better picture quality, plus the Digital sound feed?

Am I treating my 9UK too delicately by trying to avoid true black pillarboxes whenever possible?

Opinions???
post #4483 of 5064
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Originally Posted by wolfonthehill View Post

Alright - I'm torn. Here's my dilemma...

On DirecTV, I get both a Standard-Def and a High-Def version of each of my local channels. For programs broadcast in Standard-Def, I've started to watch/record the SD channel as opposed to the HD channel, so that I can have gray pillarboxes as opposed to the black ones that come with an HD channel broadcasting an HD show.

Anyone else think this is logical, or would everyone still record/watch the HD channel to get the slightly better picture quality, plus the Digital sound feed?

Am I treating my 9UK too delicately by trying to avoid true black pillarboxes whenever possible?

Opinions???

I do the same so I can use the superior "just mode" when watching SD programs. Difference in PQ is negligible anyway.
post #4484 of 5064
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Originally Posted by jfklennon View Post

Wow! another price drop? just got back from surfing at visual apex...

PH429UK was hundreds less on VA just a few days ago. What is this, the stock market?
post #4485 of 5064
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Originally Posted by wolfonthehill View Post

slightly better picture quality????


Only slightly better in HD than SD? You've got either really bad HD or really good SD. From my Comcast box, the difference between SD and HD is like night and day. More than enough to make up for the slight risk of the black bars, IMHO.

Bryan
post #4486 of 5064
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Originally Posted by unionmade View Post

Only slightly better in HD than SD? You've got either really bad HD or really good SD. From my Comcast box, the difference between SD and HD is like night and day. More than enough to make up for the slight risk of the black bars, IMHO.

Bryan


Must be stuck at 480P?


bob
post #4487 of 5064
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Originally Posted by unionmade View Post

Only slightly better in HD than SD? You've got either really bad HD or really good SD. From my Comcast box, the difference between SD and HD is like night and day. More than enough to make up for the slight risk of the black bars, IMHO.

Bryan

Alright - a clearly perceptible improvement for an SD show coming over an HD channel vs an SD channel ... but the black bars on the side make me so *&^% nervous, for fear that I'm doing damage to the 9UK, that I can't enjoy it.

Overly cautious???
post #4488 of 5064
We have had the 50 9UK for about a month.

After the first several days of 24/7 Discovery HD, the display has had 90% SD with side bars since then. There is no IR or any burn in with a contrast of +16.

DirecTV SD is really very acceptable while the HD broadcasts are breath taking.
post #4489 of 5064
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Originally Posted by skanter1 View Post

PH429UK was hundreds less on VA just a few days ago. What is this, the stock market?

Actually, it's the "we have too much of this stock" market.
post #4490 of 5064
For those gamers out there, I've been testing 3+ hour gameplay sessions on the 9UK with my Xbox 360. I have my picture control at 12, which equates to around 37.5 foot lamberts. I got little to no IR after 3 hours of gaming with the Halo 3 beta. After 3 hours of Guitar Hero II, I had a very good amount of IR, but it has mostly cleared up after running the break-in DVD for a few hours. I kinda figured Guitar Hero would be more problematic, but Halo 3 is very plasma friendly due to the colors used in the HUD. Can't wait until the release in September!

Btw, is the brightness control a huge factor in minimizing IR? Or is the picture control the only real culprit?
post #4491 of 5064
Tentative timeframe on the 10uk series displays is July.
http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPER...TH37PH10UK.PDF
post #4492 of 5064
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Originally Posted by Flat_Matt View Post

Tentative timeframe on the 10uk series displays is July.
http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPER...TH37PH10UK.PDF

Coupla things I noticed over the 9UK:

1. Color adjustment for Low and High Green as well as Red and Blue
2. 1366x768 (I assume 1:1 pixel mapping) for the RGB input (i.e no DVI blade needed)
3. Other commercial items like weekly programming macros, etc.

It'll be interesting to see if the Green primary is spot on like the other colors in this iteration of the panel.
post #4493 of 5064
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Originally Posted by Bitwize View Post

For those gamers out there, I've been testing 3+ hour gameplay sessions on the 9UK with my Xbox 360. I have my picture control at 12, which equates to around 37.5 foot lamberts. I got little to no IR after 3 hours of gaming with the Halo 3 beta. After 3 hours of Guitar Hero II, I had a very good amount of IR, but it has mostly cleared up after running the break-in DVD for a few hours. I kinda figured Guitar Hero would be more problematic, but Halo 3 is very plasma friendly due to the colors used in the HUD. Can't wait until the release in September!

Btw, is the brightness control a huge factor in minimizing IR? Or is the picture control the only real culprit?

I would say it's the brightness. Any control which makes the picture "brighter" will enhance the IR effect.
post #4494 of 5064
Maybe someone else can confirm but I also noticed that the new 10uk series has the Energy Star rating, but the 9uk literature does not.
post #4495 of 5064
the 9uk is Energy Star as well.
post #4496 of 5064
I'm thinking of getting the 50" 9uk and need to wall mount it such that it cannot stick out more than 7.5" from the wall (have a projection screen that comes down in front of the TV). I know a couple of people in this thread have mentioned using the wall mount from monoprice with their 50" sets. Would one of you mind measuring how far it sticks out (front of TV to wall)?
post #4497 of 5064
I've been using the search feature for over an hour and I still can't find the old 8UK Owners thread and/or Tweaks thread.

I'm pretty sure those threads were around (and very active) about 15 months ago. . .

Anyone know how I can find them?
post #4498 of 5064
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Originally Posted by Bitwize View Post

For those gamers out there, I've been testing 3+ hour gameplay sessions on the 9UK with my Xbox 360. I have my picture control at 12, which equates to around 37.5 foot lamberts. I got little to no IR after 3 hours of gaming with the Halo 3 beta. After 3 hours of Guitar Hero II, I had a very good amount of IR, but it has mostly cleared up after running the break-in DVD for a few hours. I kinda figured Guitar Hero would be more problematic, but Halo 3 is very plasma friendly due to the colors used in the HUD. Can't wait until the release in September!

Btw, is the brightness control a huge factor in minimizing IR? Or is the picture control the only real culprit?

It's the picture control that has the most effect on IR. Try to bring the panel down to 25-30 foot lamberts on the gaming input with the picture control (and set brightness correctly as well, of course). It should help IR somewhat. I play GT a lot with my panel, and (fingers crossed) so far so good with 28 foot lamberts peak output.
post #4499 of 5064
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Originally Posted by csundbom View Post

It's the picture control that has the most effect on IR. Try to bring the panel down to 25-30 foot lamberts on the gaming input with the picture control (and set brightness correctly as well, of course). It should help IR somewhat. I play GT a lot with my panel, and (fingers crossed) so far so good with 28 foot lamberts peak output.

Thanks, Carl. I have been turning the Picture down to -30 when playing Guitar Hero...heheh. After 3 hours, there was IR, but it went away after running the break-in dvd for a while.

I've also upped the Picture to 15 now, for most viewing material. A setting of 15 equates to around 41.5 foot lamberts on my 9UK. It seems anything below 15 looks a bit dull and loses that optimal 3D look. If I watch something that results in a lot of IR, I just run the break-in DVD for a while and it clears up.
post #4500 of 5064
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Originally Posted by flexed2death View Post

I'm thinking of getting the 50" 9uk and need to wall mount it such that it cannot stick out more than 7.5" from the wall (have a projection screen that comes down in front of the TV). I know a couple of people in this thread have mentioned using the wall mount from monoprice with their 50" sets. Would one of you mind measuring how far it sticks out (front of TV to wall)?

For what it's worth, we have ours mounted with a Peerless flat mount and the front of the plasma is 5-3/8" from the wall. I'd be very surprised if any flat or tilt mount caused the plasma to stick out more than 7.5".

-Steve
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