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post #61 of 5064
My kids just dance to it! Doesn't matter how loud!
post #62 of 5064
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Originally Posted by sxsmithn View Post

I have a general picture quality question. We where at B.B. this evening and I said to my wife that the 50 inch plasma in front of her was the same panel as the 9UK, which I want to get. She stated that the detail in the picture looked "pixelated". I said we where viewing to close. Is this typical with the 9UK? It was with a direct tv source that could potentially have been SD. Is this a matter of standard definition or is this typical from 3-4 feet away even with HD signals?

Bear in mind that at Best Buy you're going to be looking at DirecTV HD at best. My shots are from Voom off Dish Network. You can see even there that it's not everything HD can be. DirecTV is as bad or worse. DirecTV is known for bandwidth starving their HD channels which causes pixellation and macroblocking.

I will shoot pics of the D-VHS in action tomorrow hopefully... need to finish reconnecting the plasma!
post #63 of 5064
My big worry is that the majority of what we watch now is on the lower band of channels. With digital cable they are analog. So will my picture look like this the majority of the time? Granted our viewing habits will most defiantly shift to some degree to HD broadcasts.
post #64 of 5064
Unfortunately, non-HD channels on any plasma display leave little to be desired... and if you're gooing from a CRT to Plasma (like I just did) you'll be disappointed with the PQ of those non-HD. I'm using Cablevision Digital from their 8300 HD box to the plasma via HDMI and the "regular" channels are pretty lousy... but again, I have yet to see anything better on any plasma. It's true, you will change your viewing habbits. You'll find yourself watching shows on ABC/CBS/NBC that are in HD....that you never watched before... and you'll also stop watching many programs as well. My biggest change? I'd TiVo the Simpsons every day and watch during my after-work "wind-down" during dinner. I don't watch it at all now because of both the PQ and the fact that I'm stretching or zooming it to fill the screen to avoid burn in. Of course, 1 year from now...2 years... 3 years... EVERYTHING will be HD for the most part so it only gets better from here.

Do yourself a favor and get a Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD player. It comes with a month of free netflix. I don't look at much broadcast TV anymore and of that, almost nothing is non-HD... CNN comes to mind
post #65 of 5064
I will be using the same cable box. In anyones research on their TV purchase did they view SD content on other types of sets, DLP in particular? How did it compare to the plasma?
post #66 of 5064
I compared plasma to LCD-Projection and DLP and found those to be the same-worse in some cases.
post #67 of 5064
Well, I just ordered a 9UK and mount from PlasmaConcepts earlier today! They said she should arrive sometime next week! It would be great if the mount shows up (by UPS) a day before the display. Also ordered a new Onkyo TXSR803 receiver, so I think this will be an excellent football season! I'll be sure to post pictures and my impressions when it's up and running!

Heath
post #68 of 5064
just got my 9uk set up and it looks pretty amazing...however I noticed that it bows a little on both the right and left sides of the screen. I haven't noticed that anyone has had an issue with this. I'm trying to figure out if it's something that I can tweak with the settings or if it is a issue with the set itself. Please advise. thanks.
post #69 of 5064
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Originally Posted by jmatero View Post

Unfortunately, non-HD channels on any plasma display leave little to be desired..

Did you mean "leaves a lot to be desired", or is SD almost perfect?
post #70 of 5064
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Originally Posted by hdtvdinner View Post

just got my 9uk set up and it looks pretty amazing...however I noticed that it bows a little on both the right and left sides of the screen. I haven't noticed that anyone has had an issue with this. I'm trying to figure out if it's something that I can tweak with the settings or if it is a issue with the set itself. Please advise. thanks.

Is the panel in 'Just' mode? That might be it.
post #71 of 5064
fasTlane..that was it! youre my hero. Thank you.
post #72 of 5064
Which vendor did you guys go with TVAuthority or Visual Apex? Cant decide who will be better in this situation.
post #73 of 5064
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Originally Posted by OMGHi2Utoo View Post

Which vendor did you guys go with TVAuthority or Visual Apex? Cant decide who will be better in this situation.

I went with Visual Apex. They helped me get the panel immediately after it was released. Customer service was great.

- Rich
post #74 of 5064
I'm not quite a 9UK owner, but I wanted to ask a brief question while we're on the topic of vendors: I understand the 9UK is perhaps a hair better than the 8UK, but if I were able to get a 50" 8UK for several hundred less than the current price point of the 9UK counterpart, would that still be a sound investment? Or is the 9UK worth the extra?

Thank you.
post #75 of 5064
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Originally Posted by danieljw View Post

I'm not quite a 9UK owner, but I wanted to ask a brief question while we're on the topic of vendors: I understand the 9UK is perhaps a hair better than the 8UK, but if I were able to get a 50" 8UK for several hundred less than the current price point of the 9UK counterpart, would that still be a sound investment? Or is the 9UK worth the extra?

Thank you.

The 9UK has 30% better blacks and I think it does red a bit better. I would get the 9 even for $300 more.

- Rich
post #76 of 5064
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I went with Visual Apex. They helped me get the panel immediately after it was released. Customer service was great.

- Rich

i was gonna go with them too... but they just changed their pricing. I called them a few days ago (thursday) and they told me it was going to be 2,7XX with the stand included. Now i go on the site and not only is that changed but the price no longer includes the stand.

Did you buy the boards through them at the same time as the tv or separetly. I am not sure the the 9uk comes with standard, but i am looking to have 2 hdmi boards 1 pc input and 1 component. To my understanding you can only have 4 inputs total is that right.
post #77 of 5064
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

The 9UK has 30% better blacks and I think it does red a bit better. I would get the 9 even for $300 more.

- Rich

Okay, fine, that's it, I'm buying a 9UK, and that's that!
post #78 of 5064
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Originally Posted by OMGHi2Utoo View Post

I am not sure the the 9uk comes with standard, but i am looking to have 2 hdmi boards 1 pc input and 1 component.

Nope. HDMI is optional on the Commercial Displays.

Here's pic of the inputs supplied.
http://www.bruzzi.ws/plasma-faq/show...37&postcount=2

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To my understanding you can only have 4 inputs total is that right.

Correct.
post #79 of 5064
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Originally Posted by OMGHi2Utoo View Post

i was gonna go with them too... but they just changed their pricing. I called them a few days ago (thursday) and they told me it was going to be 2,7XX with the stand included. Now i go on the site and not only is that changed but the price no longer includes the stand.

Did you buy the boards through them at the same time as the tv or separetly. I am not sure the the 9uk comes with standard, but i am looking to have 2 hdmi boards 1 pc input and 1 component. To my understanding you can only have 4 inputs total is that right.

Give them a call perhaps you can negotiate

I bought my boards elsewhere through my company.

- Rich
post #80 of 5064
Just got my Panny 9UK from MacMall. Good price, great service, had HDMI blades in stock. Came in two days to my door for $79 ship (including $70 rebate). I must say I am very impressed with its performance both on HDTV and my Oppo 971. I have been burning it in at low contrast brightness before I make any serious judgements or calibration. The only thing I see right now is very saturated colors, especially Red and Yellow. Question: Color and Tint adustments are not available with HDMI inoput... How do I tone down the color saturation? I am serious audiophile, but new to video, any help is appreciated!
post #81 of 5064
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Originally Posted by varkdriver View Post

The only thing I see right now is very saturated colors, especially Red and Yellow.

Turn Advanced Setting on and change Gamma from "S-Curve" to "2.2"


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Question: Color and Tint adustments are not available with HDMI inoput... How do I tone down the color saturation? I am serious audiophile, but new to video, any help is appreciated!

There's a color saturation control in the Oppo 971H .
post #82 of 5064
Thanks for the help! Forgot there are adjustments on the Oppo, I am sure that will help. Gamma came set to 2.2 from factory, so that won't an answer for Cable feed. I may invest in iScan HD+. I understand that has color, hue adjustments, maybe thats the answer... It seems stange that Panasonic does not make color and hue available under HDMI. My Sony 34XBR960 has them. I find color and hue essential to tweaking that last little bit out for more natural picture. Other than that, the 9UK is really good looking, much like my 34XBR, only bigger.
post #83 of 5064
Bruzzi,

I played around a little over the weekend and went through the different gamma settings and preferred the 2.5 setting. What does the gamma do, and will the 2.5 setting do anything to hurt the machine?
post #84 of 5064
Has anybody gotten the Panasonic TH-37PH9UK plasma yet? Any impressions?

I will be getting the 37" sometime in the future, since that's the model that will fit into the bookshelves and tv stand my father-in-law so kindly built (for free).

I figure if I want something bigger, I'll get a projector and have a screen that comes down from the ceiling, for those times when I really feel like watching Star Wars or something on a huge canvas.

Thanks.
post #85 of 5064
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Originally Posted by tomboyter View Post

Bruzzi,

I played around a little over the weekend and went through the different gamma settings and preferred the 2.5 setting. What does the gamma do, and will the 2.5 setting do anything to hurt the machine?

No problem. You can use 2.2 or 2.5. I get better results setting Gamma at 2.0 with My Panasonic TH-50PHD8UK and the Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD Player.

Just don't use S-Curve or you'll get "Clay Face" with some sources.


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Here's a good explanation about Gamma by Gregg Loewen (Posted at Home Theater Spot Forum):

" Gamma refers to the amount of light output at any given IRE step. 0 IRE should have zero light output, 10 IRE should have x amount more than 0 IRE, 20 IRE should have x amount more than 10. Etc. Over the entire gray scale ramp, the light output can then be graphed / measured and a # derived. The graph should NEVER have an s in it but rather a nice upward sloping curve.

Gamma on a crt tube set is 2.2. This is what ALL DVDs and television material is designed for. Some video philes (ie: Joe Kane) have suggested that on digital displays the gamma should be closer to 2.5. As this will keep blacks darkers for longer and help perceived black levels on displays that have problems displaying black.

An S gamma over drives the middle of the gray scale range and makes the reproduction in accurate.

If you dont know what I mean by gamma curves, send me an email at gregg@lionav.com and I will send you a couple of jpgs. Please do not respond to this PM, please respond to the listed email.

Regards

Gregg "


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post #86 of 5064
Thanks Again Bruzzi...You are an Incredible Resource!
post #87 of 5064
OK, fellow 9UK owners, here's my big question:
To remove or not to remove the Energy Star sticker??

Has anyone done this? If so, does it come off cleanly? residue?

It's such a clean black frame, that sticker just looks out of place.
post #88 of 5064
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Originally Posted by Frayed.Knot View Post

OK, fellow 9UK owners, here's my big question:
To remove or not to remove the Energy Star sticker??

Has anyone done this? If so, does it come off cleanly? residue?

It's such a clean black frame, that sticker just looks out of place.

I removed it and stuck it on the back.
So far, the police have not tracked me down

- Rich
post #89 of 5064
I didn't even notice it...I'll have to look when I get home, but if it's on there, I will have to remove it.
post #90 of 5064
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Originally Posted by Frayed.Knot View Post

OK, fellow 9UK owners, here's my big question:
To remove or not to remove the Energy Star sticker??

Has anyone done this? If so, does it come off cleanly? residue?

It's such a clean black frame, that sticker just looks out of place.

If it doesn't come off clean, you can use Goo Gone
I've been using it for years to remove glue residue from stickers / tape.

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