Official Sony 40",46" XBR2, XBR3 - Owner's Thread - Page 9

very disappointing - especially when their RPTV XBR's still get them. I use a TiVo, but it would be nice to have an easy set-up for guests. Just turn on the TV only...

Indeed, including top and bottom... I get a lot of crap on the top few pixels with my locals in SD

I just got word from Sony that my XBR3 has shipped! It should be here next week. It was thru sonystyle so I'm not sure when non-Sony retail outlets will have it, but soon!

Hopefully Ill be able to get my hands on a 40 XBR2 this weekend. A couple of questions for you owners if ya'll dont mind

1) does it have a panel or cable management system on the back of the set?? kinda like the Aquos does.

2) does PC connectivity work via a DVI->HDMI cable and provide a good picture. Ive heard mixed reviews on this.

3) any distinct motion blurr on video games for those who have tried it already, has an 8ms response time supposedly

Can't comment on the first two, but I didn't notice any motion blur when I was playing my 360 on it in stores.

can you move the set from the base stand...u know side-to-side or up-and-down??

I think that question has been asked in this thread. I recall trying to move it from side to side so I could unplug my component cables and don't think it budged.. so I just had to move the screen :P So even if it doesn't swivel, it's not hard to shift in one direction. But I was in a rush and didn't put much more effort into it.

The set comes with a clip, much wider than the Aquos, which you can attach. But the back panel doesn't have a cover, unlike the Aquos.


This is my biggest problem right now. Text definitely could be better.


Haven't played (video) games on it yet. But if it's as good as my Sharp, then it won't be a problem for me. Tested NWN and WoW on PC and they look great.

my bad on question #2

can you hook up a PC through DVI->HDMI cable?? or does it have to be through the RGB input. some TV manufactures wont let hookup PC's through their HDMI input. Im assuming you can cuz its got audio inputs as well.

Speaking of video games, is there an owner who's a FPS hardcore player (what I mean by that, is someone who get ticked off when playing a FPS at a 75ms ping ), and could tell us how the XBR2 does when playing a FPS (especially a fast paced one, like UT2K3)?

Then we would know about the set's response time...

I used to play ALOT of Halo 2 on my 37" Aquos and it did really good. MateriaRedux plays RTS on PC (not enough crazy hectic movement on screen for me to really judge). Ive played FEAR on PC aswell, and it looked really good. im assuming it will (should) look just as good if not better due to the 12ms response time of my Aquos vs. Sony 40 XBR2 8ms r.p.

Originally posted in other XBR thread:

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What is going on??!!??

Decided to give RGB input another shot and bingo!

Text look sharp. No more fuzziness. No more white specks. This is exactly how I want it to be. Just like on my Apple Cinema Display.

But I'm not giving up on the DVI>HDMI route. Just bought a new graphics card and cable. I can't believe I will be using RGB! But for now I will keep it this way, until the HDMI issue gets resolved.

I guess Sony is serious about not connecting a PC thru HDMI.

Keep working on it. let me know as soon u get DVI->HDMI working and what u did. I get my 40XBR2 this weekend. I refuse to use RGB for my PC

speaking of which, what resolution are u running on your RGB input for your PC??

I've asked this before, but didn't get an answer. So, I'm trying again.

Has anyone had trouble connecting their PC via the RGB input?

I get nothing; no signal. Just a black screen and "no signal" in the lower right corner.

If you did have trouble, what did you do to fix the problem? I'm about ready to purchase a new computer.

thats because u havent been reading any posts since YOUR last post

READ POST #252 and ask that person how he/she did it

I have tried the following settings and have found that these settings seem to minimize the tiling effect I am seeing. The tiling is still there its now just blurred out. So I don't have as sharp a picture as possible but I don't see the tiling as much. The artifacting is still there and when there is a lot of motion on the screen the image degrades into compression boxes. But here are my settings. I'm giving ranges since I have been changing the settings but staying within these ranges. I used the DVD essentials DVD but in order to get rid of the tiling I had to tweak some settings so again the picture is not as sharp as possible.


Backlight 7-8
Picture 20-25
Brightness 52-60
Color 60-65
Hue 0
Color Temp Neutral-Warm1
Sharpness 55-65
NR Medium
DRC Mode OFF

Advanced

Black Corrector Medium
Advanced CE Medium
Gamma Medium
Clear White Off-Low
Color Sp Standard
Detail Enh Max
Edge Enh High (The last two were surprising to me)

Again, this only gets rid of 50% of the tiling issue. The screen is now a little dark. Blacks blend together. And the screen is not as sharp as it was before.

I just wanted to comment quickly on the computer issue. I have a 40XBR2 and its primarily run with an HTPC.

My RGB connection worked flawlessy I was running the TV @ 1920X1080 for desktop res and 1280X768 for games. For people having trouble getting a picture, I would set your display @ 800x600 then hook up the TV. If you dont get a picture something is definetly wrong. Thru RGB the picture is good but not great and the ghosting is there. I actually had 1:1 pixel mapping but I had to set my horizontal center to -1 to get it on the screen.

My DVI/HDMI connection once I got it going is by far the better way to go. I got everything including text looking nice and crisp. The picture is a lot better and leaves a lot more options for adjusting the picture then the VGA input does. If anyone has any questions let me know.

My HTPC runs with an ATI AIW 9800 Pro to drive the displays.

I will be getting the 46xbr3 in 1 week and need to know if I will have ant issues with my desktop hookup. I have a dell with nvidia Geforce 6800 or 7800, not sure? I have been reading about some issues using DVI ti HDMI to hookup the sony xbr2 or 3 in 40 or 46". Any specific settings? Thanks, Bill.

Like I said before you should be fine.

Getting my 46XBR2 today.
DTV coming tomorrow to install my HD DVR.

Finally I can truly join this "owners thread".

I appreciate everyones input, information, and reviews on this site and my only prayer is that I do NOT get a defective set (ala AndrewScott)

You said, once you got it going you had no problems with the dvi to hdmi. What problems did you encounter? Thanks.

Hmm, man, I'm sorry to be a jerk about this, hehehe, but it really has be to someone who can't stand a 75-100ms ping when playing a FPS, preferably a fast paced one, like UT. And it has to be tested with THIS VERY set, because we really cannot rely on any manufacturer specs regarding the response time (thus we cannot compare those).

There is so much subjectivity on the subject, I mean the average person going to buy an HD set has no choice but to be clueless about what he is really doing, it's astonishing

Ok I thought I would give a quick update on the PQ and my findings. Keep in mind i have not had a lot of time to play with the set yet. I have Verizon Fios- hooked up to HDMI, I have an Oppo971 - hooked up to HDMI, and I have an xboz hooked up via vga. OK when I first connected my Fios service, which looked great on my CRT, I was not happy. It was horrible. Last night I played with the settings a liltte and ran some experiments to figure out what to do. First I put in a DVD, Monsters Inc., into the Oppo that was up coverting to 1080i. This was stunning. Lots of action and detail no loss whatsoever. So I know the TV can handle it.

On HD I was getting a lot of noise and what I can only describe as movement in detail shots. I turned off DRC and put the 1080i mode into 1:1 pixel mapping and bang that made a huge difference. The HD channels now look flawless. I also took the TV off of Vivid as others have recmomended. SD doesnt look great but it looks a heck of a lot better than it did. I think with a little more tweaking it will look better but I want to be able to prove that the signal is the issues and the Oppo helped me do that. Once I play around a little more I will update. I will post some pictures tomorrow. BTW Sin City in HD was amazing on this unit.

I will try some GRAW on the 360 tonight and report back.

Sorry.

Ok so basically I had it hooked up to VGA thought I would just have to switch the cable to the DVI to HDMI and presto. NO this was not the case. So I took the resoultion down to 800x600 went into ATI's Advanced Options. Found the ability to add 1080p60 to the supported display modes. Checked that. Switched to 1920X1080 and PRESTO!

Can't speak for Nvidia's settings but you shouldn't have any trouble.

Have any of you gamer guys tried a PS2? How's it look on these nice displays?

How about a PS2 through a dedicated scaler device, or through a HTPC scaler?

Sorry to bug you. I've been having major trouble trying to find a modern display that doesn't make legacy PS2 games look like garbage.

Holy Smokes!
If I were to put those settings on my Panel, it would look like complete POO...
Either your Panel really is messed up or what you've been reporting would be easily fixed if someone would just set up your panel...

I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt...

Here's where my settings are (more or less)
keep in mind, this is pretty much just my initail tweaks till it looked reasonably natural... I have yet to really get down and dirty with it for TV (D*) viewing.
But those are the settings I'm posting as opposed to my HDDVD, etc.

Backlight 4
Picture 90-95
Brightness 48-50
Color 48-52
Hue 0
Color Temp Warm1
Sharpness 40-50
NR off - Low
DRC Mode OFF

Advanced

Black Corrector off
Advanced CE off
Gamma off - low
Clear White Off-Low
Color Sp Standard
Detail Enh OFF
Edge Enh OFF (These last two will REALLY enhance compression blocks, especially at high or Max)


Good luck.

holmzee

Just to update you my settings are pretty well in line with yours. However I still want to tweak it a bit once I get a calibration disc.

why would anyone use a ps2 on a set like that. ps2 always look grainy....bad jaggies. I dont get it. get a 360 or wait for ps3.

1) Are there any secret settings, menus or codes that anyone knows of for the XBR2/3?

2) I am still in the old original XBox arena... not a big gamer... and have not used it for a while, but if I remember correctly there is a component cable I can get for it... is this correct? And if so, what resolution do most old XBOX games generate? i.e. Tiger Woods Golf, etc.