kmplayer or zoom player?

theatertek.

What an ignorant, useless response.

Honestly never heard of KMPlayer before. On quicklook, does it run on Linux? Only on Linux? If so, that's a big vote one way or the other (what OS will you install?).

Again, on first glance, KM looks relatively immature, but looks free?
Zoom Player is mature, solid software with many generations of development. Same goes for Theatertek, BTW.

If you are on Windows, Zoom and TT are amongst the best. Always debateable on which is better, and the gap gets even narrower that they both are heading down similar paths. Both now support external automation via products like MainLobby. Both are polishing up their user interfaces (which aren't needed with MainLobby). Zoom allows for easy codec changes and setting of parameters. TT has a wonderful Nividea codec that works great.

First look opinion, sounds like KMPlayer might be good to "mess with". But for establishing a best of HTPCs, I would stick with the acknowledged leaders.

kmplayer is worth trying. Its free and similar to zoomplayer. Also it is not only a shell, there are some built in decoders.

a lot of decoders and lots of options. os is xp. pretty nice program. as simple or as complicated as you want it to be.

btw, google has two programs with the same name, kmplayer.

we are talking about the korean media player, kmplayer.exe. the web site seems unreachable tonight.

I gave up on Zoomplayer long ago because I found KMP -

the functionalities are quite complete / infinitely configurable (even keyboard shortcut mapping) with playlist support (mp3 or videos), and it can use Nvidia or Moonlight elecard codec
... that is if you want to fool around with it, but if you just want to install and run, its fine too (cannot say that for ZP) !

Theatretek still have a few things missing in functionalities and it was not as stable as KMP at 2.1 when I tested it; and YES, I paid for Theatertek too, so KMP is much better value for (no) money

I use a MX500 to control most things in KMP, including albums of different types of contents e.g. HD channel, Documentaries channel, recorded TV channel, etc

bump for great player which i just recently found.

a few things to note for the hdtv .ts crowd:
1) use superspeed mode - this takes kmplayer's transforms out of the graph chain and results in lower cpu usage

2)enable vmr mixing mode in preferences -> video processing under the renderer tab. this gives you access to hardware color correction under superspeed mode (a must for vmr9) and enables your hardware deinterlacing.

3)supports vmr9 windowless (or renderless)

4)i've had better luck with the nvidia purevideo splitter and decoder (vs. kmplayer default), so make sure you're using these.

5)pressing ctrl-tab brings up a nice summary screen of the current video format / decoders being used.

player:
http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=KMPlayer

skins:
http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/downl...sort=downloads

Can kmplayer use the PDVDUltra 7.3 codecs for BR and HD DVD playback?

hjackson

Does it support Exclusive renderless?

-Suntan

I personally prefer Zoom Player of the two at this time. Less problems overall....

Well, I tried KMPlayer. For the life of me, no matter which external codecs I enabled and bypassed internals H.264 video was choppy with it. I ran WPC and Zoomplayer with same file. Bam they work.

I also compared video quality and CPU usage side by side. KMPlayer was jumping from 8% on my dual core to 17%. Zoom and WPC were solid 11 - 12%.

I will agree there are TONS of options on KMPlayer. I just don't have that much time to figure it all out.

No, as indicated by this post . I have yet to hear a good enough reason to use this mode however.


@twisted_oak

press ctrl-tab during playback to check the filter graph; make sure it is indeed using the proper splitter/decoder. also, check notes 1) and 2) above. the best part about kmp is that you can easily customize your filter graphs (incl. splitter,decoder,renderer) how you want them for any video type.

No thanks!

What do you need exclusive mode for? A bit of a cludge in zoom player.

I am a definite zoom player fan but KMplayer has a lot more capability. The only thing zoom does better is the 'smart playback' which has always been quite nice.
You can configure presets for almost every option in kmplayer using a file type. It's biggest weakness for me is the limited manner in which you can customize filter chains (particularily source and splitters).

Both players beat out the alternatives quite soundly (IMO)

PowerDVD doesn't use "codecs" (not Directshow codecs at least) for HD DVD or BD playback.

Well then, if you have no need for exclusive mode, then i guess that means none of us need it!

Anyway, thanks for at least answering my question.

-Suntan

I tried KmPlayer...
Its like mpc but on steriods, so many options... I couldnt find out how to change the source splitter(mpeg2 TS) to Nero. After a few days I became frustrated and went back to zoom player. Its just easy and simple to use and I have the freedom to do what I like with codecs.
ZP- 1
Km- 0
in my opinion.....

How about returning the favor then ? Why do you use it... tearing issues? other?


Also, can any directshow type player play hd-dvd or blu-ray? I think we're limited to nero showtime/windvd/powerdvd for this. I have heard something about manually splitting the evo files with haali's splitter...

I have used both kmplayer and zoomplayer, and settled with zoomplayer for dvd playback. I believe kmplayer was developed with divx playback as its main focus. Divx format is very popular in Korea where virtually everything (movie, tv show, concert, etc.) is available for download in divx format. But, for simple dvd playback, zoomplayer with ffdshow would do the job. If you have some other format you want to play, kmplayer gives you the most flexibility in tweaking the video and sound in any format. I guess the choice should be based on what kind of source materials you play most often.

On a side note, there is another player called gomplayer that is probably more popular in playing back non-dvd files in Korea. It is similar to kmplayer, but more stable and mature. It plays divx files perfectly and many other computer files including wmv and asf files. Gomplayer doesn't need ffdshow because it already has postprocessing capabilities built in (resize, denoise, sharpen, etc.) and they work pretty well.

I have a setup where I play dvds through zoomplayer+ffdshow, and all other files through gomplayer. I record OTA HD shows using beyond TV 4.6 through vbox cat's eye 150 card, convert the .tp stream to divx HD format to save hard disk space, and watch it in gomplayer, which works great.

I'm not sure about hd-dvd or blue-ray playback features in kmplayer or gomplayer.

I hope it helps.

No, DirectShow cannot be secured sufficiently for playback of AACS protected content.

It should be possible with PVP-OPM on Vista.


Haali's splitter understands EVO files, and there are MPEG-2, VC-1, and H.264 decoders, that part can be done with DirectShow. The problem is with the audio. There are (to my knowledge) only two decoders capable of decoding Dolby Digital Plus audio streams (the standard audio on HD DVDs), those are the audio filter from WinDVD 8 (JP release) which is stereo only, and the Sonic Cinemaster 4.2 Audio decoder, available only with Sonic Scenarist.