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Originally Posted by giankam View Post
Do you mean something like this:

Yes, as an option to drilling hols in the back of the speaker. Use a pair of L bars per speaker and a mdf sheet (or something similar) as a shelf where you can drill hols for the fastening of the speaker.

Another option is to use a wall mount like this one where you don't have to drill holes in the speaker.
http://www.vogels.com/web/Consumer/P...KET-BLACKC.htm

As you might have understood I'm not a fan of making holes in a beautiful speaker such as the Electra 1007be.
post #4682 of 6414
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Originally Posted by steinram View Post
Another option is to use a wall mount like this one where you don't have to drill holes in the speaker.
http://www.vogels.com/web/Consumer/P...KET-BLACKC.htm

As you might have understood I'm not a fan of making holes in a beautiful speaker such as the Electra 1007be.
I saw those also when I was looking. Sort of a variation on the ones I posted a few posts ago.
post #4683 of 6414
What a shame my focals are too deep for that wall mount

Quote:
Originally Posted by steinram View Post

Yes, as an option to drilling hols in the back of the speaker. Use a pair of L bars per speaker and a mdf sheet (or something similar) as a shelf where you can drill hols for the fastening of the speaker.

Another option is to use a wall mount like this one where you don't have to drill holes in the speaker.
http://www.vogels.com/web/Consumer/P...KET-BLACKC.htm

As you might have understood I'm not a fan of making holes in a beautiful speaker such as the Electra 1007be.
post #4684 of 6414
Just came across this thread after going thru the Dynaudio and OPPO93 threads. I have a pair of Tantal 509s that replaced an old pair of Infinity RSbs several years ago. Aside from not having the deepest of bass, they are a fantastic speaker. At the moment, I am driving them with a Rotel 1050 using my OPPO 93 as CDP but have also driven them with my Stratos and Counterpoint NPS 400.

I was wondering what ever happened to the Tantal line and why did they disappear so quickly. I only saw a few hits from a search here for that lineup.
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First time I've posted to this forum. I have come aware of Focal this year and Im really impressed with the reviews I've read so far. However, currently I have Def Tech gear and I'm seeking out other manufacturers to achieve the sound I hear in my head. I havent considered myself to be an audiophiler but with my music background and the detail, and clarity I long to hear I guess kinda makes me think I just may be.

I long to hear the focal speakers but will have to do some traveling to do so.

The Electras are not in my budget but was wondering about the Chorus 800V line vs. the Profile line?
Are there major differences in sound other than a $6000.00 price increase?

Im thinking about the Chorus 816v, 806v, cc800v, and the sr800v for a 7.1 set up. Retail is about $4700.

The Profile line is $10,700.

Can $6000 price difference justify going with the Profile line?

Or would it be better to go with the Chorus 800V line and use the Extra funds for amplification? I currently have the Integra DTR-50.2 avr but I can use that as my processor.

A penney for your Thoughts.

thanx
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Hey Roy, thanks for stopping in . I can tell you that before I went to JM Labs I had Def Tech speakers. I had a pair of pro 400's, a C\\L\\R 1000 and I also had a power field 15 sub. I first upgraded to a a pair of 927 be's and a cc901 center. Now I have a pair of 1027 be's and a cc1000be center. The difference, as you can imagine is very big. Now I understand that the Electra series is out of your range. From what I have read, the Chorus speakers are outstanding. They seem to play way above their price range. People like the profile but I have also heard where some people thought the highs were too sharp. It's a matter of taste. Now once you get to the profile range the need for an amp begins to show itself I think. In my opinion the obvious choice is to try and listen to both. If not, I think the Chorus setup with a nice amp would a really sweet setup.
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Hey all, I just purchased a Bryston 4B SST2 for my Electra 920s and wow, what a beautiful amp. I was running the Emotiva XPA-1s (which I'm still using for HT), but the Bryston has really completed the chain YBA cd3 transport -> Benchmark DAC1(as a pre) -> Bryston -> Electras.
post #4688 of 6414
Nice amp. I have been using a 4b-ST with my 1027's and I really like the sound. I am sure the new Bryston amps are even better. Not to turn this into a Bryston thread but does the 4BSST2 get very hot?
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It get's a little warm, but not hot to the touch. This is the first time I've heard these speakers really sing (they are fasntastic speakers btw). My tube amp sounds nice and the Emo is alright, but the Bryston is extremely detailed and it has incredible control. I've never heard the bass in Chicane sound so satisfying.
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Thanks. My Bryston gets a quite warm. Not burning to the touch either but still quite warm. In the summer time, with the 4b-ST and 5b-ST my small room gets very hot. Even with my fans going and the air on. I was just wondering if the newer amps were as warm as what I have. Glad the amp is helping you realize the potential of your speakers .
post #4691 of 6414
Hey Roy, I own Def Tech 2006s in my bedroom and 2000 tls in my basement theater. The sound was fine and I did not feel the need to move up from 2000 to 2010. However, the stock market perked up and I just was kind of bored with my system so I decided to see what else was out there. I mainly listen to classic rock and roll and 80s music. With a lot of U2 and Coldplay lately. I had been kind of passively looking at different speakers over the last 2 years or so, and absolutely fell in love with the Focal tweeters and midrange. A few months ago, when Ultimate Electronics went bankrupt I finally pulled the trigger on a pair of 836s and have them in my bedroom. They are great. I don't know if I'd pay full retail $3,000 for them, but if you can find them for $2,200 or less I think they are a best buy. The profile line really was not that impressive to me. I felt the 836s sounded bigger and better than the 918s. Here in MN we are basically running out of high end stores so I don't think I can even audition the electras or beryllium tweeters in any of the higher end speakers, though I would love to maybe move up some day. I will say this, Definitive speakers are hard to beat for the price, because of the built in subs. If you buy a different brand you will definitely need a sub to get comparable sound. For a long time my reference for good sound seemed to be bigger, better, and louder. I had to change that thinking a bit to realize what happens to the detail in the midrange and tweeter has a better effect on sound quality than some of the bigger sound. The 836s have much better seperation between low bass, midrange and high frequencies.
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Hi, I was offered a 12 years old pair of JMLab Profil 5, the only info I can get is:-

32"(H) x 7"(W) x 7"(D)
1" tweeters & 2 x 5.5" woofers
8 ohm. 90dB. Bi-wire

The speakers came with no grill and he's asking for $250 for it?

Anyone here can share info on this model and is the price worth it?
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Do you know if there is a stand for Chorus SR800V? In my new ht room, I wanted to hang them on a wall, but now i need to find stands for them. Due to specific mounting I can't find anything suitable.
Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Another thought. Will it be OK to use SR800V's as back surrounds and use 807V's as surrounds? Focal recommends otherwise, but I have 2 large openings covered by curtains to left and right from the sofa hence it is impossible to hang SR800V's there and I have stands for 807V's.
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By the way what do you think about the Chorus SR800V surrounds for the Diva and the
CC100be ( I have these last two )? in a room 12x22 or there is another option, ugrading the chorus?
post #4695 of 6414
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Originally Posted by Rene725 View Post
By the way what do you think about the Chorus SR800V surrounds for the Diva and the
CC100be ( I have these last two )? in a room 12x22 or there is another option, ugrading the chorus?
I am using the Chorus 805v's as surrounds in my small room with a pair of 1027be's a cc1000be. It has turned out to be a nice fit. If you can mount the SR800's in a way that they are not too off axis in regards to your listening position the I say go for it. Other wise I might look at the Chorus bookshelf speakers. I have had them for awhile now and have been very pleased with their performance.
post #4696 of 6414
Mike: What do you think about the SR800V per se
good speakers or there are better for the size of my room?
post #4697 of 6414
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Originally Posted by Rene725 View Post

Mike: What do you think about the SR800V per se
good speakers or there are better for the size of my room?

The SR800v look like very good speakers. Same "form" as the SR1000be speaker. I personally did not have the space to mount a speaker like that. I am not sure if they are better placed behind your listening position or on the side of your listening position. My guess would be those would be fine if you can place them behind you. If you had to place them on the sides, like I did, they might not be the best bet. But that is just my best guess.
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Mike:I am going to introduce a foreign question unrelated to this thread but I want to get your expertise opinion in regard for cables for surround speakers. I apologize to all of you.
Length +/_ 30 feet. Which cheap ones? Does the length compromise the sound . Do I need to add any extra to from receiver to the back:speakers?
post #4699 of 6414
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rene725 View Post

Mike:I am going to introduce a foreign question unrelated to this thread but I want to get your expertise opinion in regard for cables for surround speakers. I apologize to all of you.
Length +/_ 30 feet. Which cheap ones? Does the length compromise the sound . Do I need to add any extra to from receiver to the back:speakers?

I think many people use monoprice cables. I think the longer it is the larger the gauge you should get. I probably look at the 12 gauge stuff. I am not sure I under stand your question about adding anything extra from the receiver. It just needs to reach.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10239
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I guess I can join in on this thread since I recently bought our Moderator Mark Rubin's 937Be's. Mark was a great seller and delivered one of the more amazing packing jobs I've ever seen!

They replaced VMPS RM30's in my dedicated HT and so far I'm very happy. And while the Be tweeter gets the most press, it's the speakers bass response that's most notable in my room. Pictures to follow at some point...

John
post #4701 of 6414
I recently purchased new compnents for my Stereo/Home theater to replace my aged system. I bought:

836v fronts
814v surrounds
CC800v
SW800v

I powered them with a new Sony AVR STR-DA3600ES. It was inadequate to say the least. Sony allowed me to upgrade to the STR-DA5600ES which upped the power from 100 to 130w. While I was awaiting the arrival of the 5600 I ordered a Emotiva XPA-2 to run the fronts. All I can say is I feel ridiculous for ever having plugged the 836 speakers into the avr. Now with an adequate amount of power to them they sound phenomenal to me. The change in the headroom and the increased clarity of even the smallest aspect of the music is wonderful. These speakers are such a good choice.
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I feel the same way. My Electra HT setup is powered with Emotiva power and it sounds fantastic.
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Hi Guys,

Ive been using Focal 1007 BE's for some time. Can anyone help to perhaps modify my speaker placement?

I have recently upgrade all my electronics and I think I may need a speaker upgrade, whilst the overall sound is vastly improved I'm looking for a speaker with better bass. I tried a friends Focal 927 BE's but the imaging is no where near as good as the 1007s - in fact the 1007s blow the 927 BE's away imo.

Ive got the speakers slightly towed in, away from the wall and away from the side walls.

Unfortunately I sit on a sofa which is against the rear wall, I have a few sound absorption panels that I made for the room behind me and behind the speakers

Electronics:

Linn Klimax Kontrol/1 with Dynamik
Linn Klimax DS with Dynamik
Linn Klimax Solo monoblock power amps

Using sound style stands with sand and dodgy old Audioquest indigo speaker cables, anyone comment on an suitable speaker cable for the BE tweetss? I also tried Chord Epic Twin but didnt really notice an improvement over my Audioquest.

Thanks
LL
LL
LL
post #4704 of 6414
I just bought Kimber Kable 8TC bi-wire cable, Kimber Hero Balanced ICs and a Kimber DV-30 coaxial when I bought my new Bryston 4BSST2 and the stuff is fantastic.
post #4705 of 6414
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Originally Posted by KrisKeen View Post

Unfortunately I sit on a sofa which is against the rear wall, I have a few sound absorption panels that I made for the room behind me and behind the speakers

As your system proves given your high-quality electronics and speakers, the room is just as important. I've never heard a system with the "against the wall" seating you describe sound good from that location as the uneven low and mid-bass response overwhelms and muddies the other frequencies.

If you can't rearrange then room correction might be your best option. You have a great preamp but I'd be interested to hear what an ARC or Audyssey XT equipped receiver used as a pre-pro would do in your system...

John
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Hi John,

I can shuffle things around, in doing so, it would mean that the speakers would send sound down the room. My room is a long rectangle, see attached image

At one end is a set of glass sliding doors covered with blinds. There is a door(never used) that goes outside that is to the left of the LEFT speaker in the above photos. I could position the speakers infront of the glass windows/timber door with the blinds down

I could fire the speakers down the hall but placement of things would be tricky (but a worthy experiment)

There is a 4.5ft high stone/kitchen bench top that seperates, partly, the kitchen area to the room. You can stand in the kitchen and see the whole apartment. The hall leads to a door which is the top bedroom. The stair well goes down stairs to another room

What are your thoughts on placement?
LL
post #4707 of 6414
I've taken a few photos and moved the speakers so they fire down the longest side of the rectange that is my apartment.

I'd say its not a dramatic improvement. Slight. Its still not amazing like it should be.
LL
LL
post #4708 of 6414
I'm in a similar situation in regards to seating. My HT/2 channel room is 12x12 with not a lot of room for repositioning. My listening position is also against a wall. I've managed to compensate somewhat with room treatments and speaker positioning.
post #4709 of 6414
Ive moved my seating position, im about 3ft away from a 5ft wall thats part of the kitchen, I can hear improved seperation but its not drastic
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My system HT\\2ch is in a room where my seats are against the back wall and with treatments and room correction I can get great sound out of my 1027's. Maybe I am just lucky, but I can say that they are very sensitive any sort of placement changes. My room is treated with 8 panels from GIK. I have 2 244's behind me, I have 244's above me. I have 2 242's in the center of of the front of the room and I have two tri traps in the front corners. I am not just saying it because it is my system , but it does sound very good. I have had other people, who have much bigger systems then mine say it sounds very good.

BTW Kris, that is some very nice gear you have. It looks like from that picture that the treatments are just on the floor behind the speakers. You may have to play with placement of your treatments and think about adding some more. I first wanted only 4 panels but as you can see, I know have 8. You can click on the my system link and scroll down and see some pictures of my room.
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