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Where's CNN HD?

post #1 of 118
Thread Starter 
I was watching CNN today and noticed that most (if not all) of their studios appear to have HD cameras. Also, a while back, I heard that they actually have an HD feed running in their bureaus, and that they have all the control room equipment necessary to do an HD broadcast.

So, what's stopping them from launching this channel?

If I had to guess, I would say it's upgrading their field cams and getting the satellites to work.




SEPTEMBER 1 UPDATE:
CNN HD has reportedly launched, but, as of yet, nobody's carrying it. DirecTV plans to carry it when they get their D10 satellite launch.
All NYC-originated programming will be HD (AC 360, American Morning, etc)
The Situation Room and main Atlanta studios will be SD at launch, but are rapidly converting over to HD
Field cameras are being upgraded to XDCAM HD. Expect some field reports in HD this year
Washington DC facilities will be able to route/edit in HD (i.e.: shots from White House, etc)
post #2 of 118
There's no bandwidth for the stuff that needs to be in true HD like Movies.

They are not going to send HD feeds back on remotes, on widescreen 16:9 480i, thus I don't want the bandwidth wasted at this point as they will just take it from HBO, SHO or some other place.
post #3 of 118
And, do you really want to see Larry King in HD?
post #4 of 118
i'd like to see field reporting done in HD, not just studio shots. perhaps CNN will be the first to provide something like that.
post #5 of 118
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Originally Posted by jdspencer View Post

And, do you really want to see Larry King in HD?

Priceless........ :-)

Actually, according to the ratings, CNN needs viewers first.

Steve
post #6 of 118
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Originally Posted by nikeykid View Post

i'd like to see field reporting done in HD, not just studio shots. perhaps CNN will be the first to provide something like that.

Too late. HDNet claimed that crown a LONG time ago.
post #7 of 118
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And, do you really want to see Larry King in HD?


Scary, he already looks like the living dead.

Now, Lou Dobbs on the other hand...
post #8 of 118
Paula Zahn in HD, I'll go for that.
post #9 of 118
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Originally Posted by DrDon View Post

Too late. HDNet claimed that crown a LONG time ago.

forgive me i have comcast.
post #10 of 118
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Originally Posted by DrDon View Post

Too late. HDNet claimed that crown a LONG time ago.

True but they repeat the same show for the week
post #11 of 118
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Originally Posted by TulsaCoker View Post

Paula Zahn in HD, I'll go for that.

A much better alternative than, say, Greta Van Sussteren in HD on Fox!

Seriously though, news doesn't need to be HD to be compelling and there's just no need for it at the moment. Besides it's not like CNN is flush with cash now that it comes in a distant second (and sometimes, like with 'Paula Zahn,' third) to the F***s News Channel.
post #12 of 118
How is it that CNN, the largest news organization on the planet doesn't have an HD channel? This seems almost ridiculous to me. Do they figure people simply don't really care about watching their news with increased resolution? Here's hoping the powers that be over at CNN figure out that the largest news organization in the world NEEDS to have an HD feed!

John from Boston
post #13 of 118
Look for it late next year.

CNN uses HD cameras and has spent a lot of time upgrading their operations to support it.
post #14 of 118
Just for accuracies sake, CNN might have the most employees, but The Associated Press covers far more news from many, many more bureaus worldwide.

Here are its statistics:

3,700 AP editorial, communications and administrative employees worldwide

242 total bureaus worldwide

1,700 U.S. daily, weekly, non-English and college newspapers

5,000 radio/TV outlets taking AP

1000 AP Radio Network affiliates taking AP Network News

330 International broadcasters who receive AP's global video news service, APTN, and SNTV, a sports joint venture video service.

8,500 International subscribers who receive AP news and photos

121 number of countries served by AP

5 languages, including English, German, Dutch, French and Spanish. The report is translated into many more languages by international subscribers.
post #15 of 118
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Originally Posted by fredfa View Post

Just for accuracies sake, CNN might have the most employees, but The Associated Press covers far more news from many, many more bureaus worldwide.

Here are its statistics:

3,700 AP editorial, communications and administrative employees worldwide

242 total bureaus worldwide

1,700 U.S. daily, weekly, non-English and college newspapers

5,000 radio/TV outlets taking AP

1000 AP Radio Network affiliates taking AP Network News

330 International broadcasters who receive AP's global video news service, APTN, and SNTV, a sports joint venture video service.

8,500 International subscribers who receive AP news and photos

121 number of countries served by AP

5 languages, including English, German, Dutch, French and Spanish. The report is translated into many more languages by international subscribers.

Hmmmmmm. Okay. My apologies for not specifying I was speaking of a television news organization! I thought that would have been obvious on a television forum...silly me! Let me know where I can find AP Net. And I thought I had a lot of time on my hands!

John from Boston
post #16 of 118
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post #17 of 118
HD news coverage is something I've been looking for for a while now. I don't understand why anyone would think the news shouldn't be in HD?

We have wars going on, natural disasters occuring, humanitarian crises abound, and reporters standing in the middle of the action. Is this not arguably one of the BEST uses for HD? I would've loved to have seen some of those shots inside Haifa after a rocket landed in widescreen HD to get a better idea of the damage and what the situation really looked like on the street. Imagine live coverage during hurricanes in HD? Waves crashing against the shore, etc. That would look incredible.

I wish SOME network would step up. Hey, wasn't MSNBC supposed to be the "high tech" news channel back in the day? Maybe if they go HD, they could get something going over there other than that one guy making lame jokes about O'Reilly to get a headline.
post #18 of 118
If anyone is going to do it, with the resources they have, it should be CNN. They are the least bad, and in many ways the best, of the three cable news channels. I look forward to them doing it well, though, as TurboDan outlined above. Also, their excellent documentaries should look great!

However, CNN is not without its flaws. IMO it needs to be more intelligent, more dignified, less sensational, and give more time and background to the important stories. I would bet that if they watch their ratings less while focusing more on honorable, valuable news, being #1 will take care of itself.

A "Fox-light" channel will not help anyone. Fox News already has the low class audience who would rather be entertained than informed, CNN needs to differentiate its product more. When they start interviewing porn stars to further copy Fox News is when I give up on them. But I don't see that happening.

So...
post #19 of 118
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Originally Posted by HDTVFanAtic View Post

There's no bandwidth for the stuff that needs to be in true HD like Movies.

They are not going to send HD feeds back on remotes, on widescreen 16:9 480i, thus I don't want the bandwidth wasted at this point as they will just take it from HBO, SHO or some other place.

Amen
post #20 of 118
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Originally Posted by TulsaCoker View Post

Paula Zahn in HD, I'll go for that.

I know Paula's attractive, but am I the only one that has a hard time watching her show? I'ts hard for me to watch her for even a few minutes. And I know they paid here a ton a money.

Now to get back to the OP question: CNN doesn't even have a digital feed on C-band. I know cable companies don't have CNN digital feeds there analog I believe. So CNN would have to launch a HD feed which I'm sure there planning on it. And on c-band there analog feed is pretty good stuff, as good as any digital channel I've seen on cable.
post #21 of 118
Someone mentioned HDNet's early role in 1080i news coverage. Their World Report often features current international news events, and recall some live coverage of news events, too, although not surprisingly that has to include some tedium that takes place routinely.

Don't doubt that CNN has jacked up the flashy graphics/audio, sensational coverage, and excessive self-aggrandizements in direct response to Fox News, which pushes the same--apparently successfully to capture audiences. Next up in the war: Fox TV rolls out regular 720p 'news' features of busty babes in bikinis, as in News Corp.'s British tabloids (well...almost), and CNN has to follow with the same in 1080i. -- John
post #22 of 118
Speaking of HDNet's 1080i news coverage - do they use their own cameras to film news events or is that stock footage from someone else? Since no one else is doing HD news, I wonder where their content originates.
post #23 of 118
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TurboDan View Post

Speaking of HDNet's 1080i news coverage - do they use their own cameras to film news events or is that stock footage from someone else? Since no one else is doing HD news, I wonder where their content originates.

I recall seeing the piece on the RFID chip on The NewsHour on PBS (which is scheduled to go HD early next year), so either HDNet or PBS is borrowing content there.
post #24 of 118
This is a thread about CNN and/or other news channels in HD. We'll allow technical discussions and posts regarding image presentation. Comments on the content have little to do with HD, but we'll allow some of those as long as they don't turn political. I've removed political comments.
post #25 of 118
Voom has the HDnews channel. Kinda like CNN Headline news but in HD.
post #26 of 118
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Originally Posted by TurboDan View Post

Speaking of HDNet's 1080i news coverage - do they use their own cameras to film news events or is that stock footage from someone else? Since no one else is doing HD news, I wonder where their content originates.

Actually, Voom has 24-hr news channel in HD (available on Dish Network): http://www.voom.com/vhdo/news/index.jsp

It repeats quite often, but unlike HDNet is all HD news all the time, so I guess it is the 1st and only of its kind. Don't know about the originality of most of their footage, but they did send a reporter to Lebanon during the recent crisis.
post #27 of 118
In any event there is probably no cable or satellite operator that would even consider adding a 'CNN-HD' to their line ups.

Just about all operators are starved for available bandwidth to carry new HD services and presently prioritize sports, movies, locals and hd versions of popular basic cable services such as TNT and Discovery.

Even Verizon would probably balk at having to pay an additional carriage fee to carry CNN-HD when the SD version struggles for decent viewing numbers.
post #28 of 118
Frontline does some HD stories from time to time. They just showed a repeat of a story they did in 2004 from Iraq of the MASH units and injured soldiers. Pretty compelling stuff.
post #29 of 118
It appears that all the video clips on the CNN website are 16 x 9, but certainly not HD. However, the picture is very clear in most cases. I wonder if they are filmed in HD, or just SD widescreen.
post #30 of 118
Directv has announced at CES they plan to add CNN in HD in 2007.
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