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post #301 of 409
Add WCPO-DT (Cincinnati) to the list that carries Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy in HD!! Happened a couple of weeks ago. They had to get the link between the HD program log and SD program log working.
post #302 of 409
The volume on the HD version of Jeopardy! is much lower that the other programming on ABC and much lower than programming on the other networks. I have noticed this for at least the past week or so. Anyone else? WABC New York via Comcast Central Jersey.
post #303 of 409
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Originally Posted by dan57 View Post

The volume on the HD version of Jeopardy! is much lower that the other programming on ABC and much lower than programming on the other networks. I have noticed this for at least the past week or so. Anyone else? WABC New York via Comcast Central Jersey.

Jeopardy is not a network show, so the problem is local.
post #304 of 409
I was curious how many stations are now showing Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune in HD. I took jtbell's list in message #205 and did a search for Jeopardy references in the remaining top 30 markets. For some markets, I posted a query in the local thread about the status of the local station showing Jeopardy and Wheel.

According to the list below, we now have the two syndicated programs in HD in 8 out of the top 10 DMAs, 16 out of the top 20, and 22 out of the top 30. There are surely more stations in the smaller DMAs that are showing Jeopardy and/or Wheel in HD, so if anyone knows of one, post it here in the next few days and I will try to update the list.

That so many stations are now able to show the two syndicated programs in HD is a good sign as they now have the equipment to show other syndicated programs in HD. May be a while before other syndicated programs start to show up in HD, but the groundwork is being laid.

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Stations with Jeopardy & Wheel of Fortune in HD
DMA
Rank  Station  City
----  -------  ------------------
   1  WABC     New York NY
   2  KABC     Los Angeles CA
   3  WLS      Chicago IL
   4  WPVI     Philadelphia PA
   5  KGO      San Francisco, CA
   6  KTVT     Dallas, TX
   9  WXIA     Atlanta GA
  10  KHOU     Houston, TX
  11  WDIV     Detroit MI
  12  WSTP     Tampa, FL
  13  KNXV     Phoenix AZ
  15  WCCO     Minneapolis - St. Paul, MN  Wheel of Fortune in HD
      KARE     Minneapolis - St. Paul, MN  Jeopardy in HD
  17  WEWS     Cleveland OH
  18  KMGH     Denver, CO
  19  WFTV     Orlando FL
  20  KXTV     Sacramento CA
  21  KSDK     St. Louis MO
  22  WPXI     Pittsburg, PA
  24  WMAR     Baltimore, MD
  25  WTHR     Indianapolis IN
  26  WCNC     Charlotte NC
  29  WTVD     Raleigh NC

  31  KSHB     Kansas City MO
  32  WBNS     Columbus OH
  34  WCPO     Cincinnati, OH
  47  WFMY     Greensboro NC
  62  KJRH     Tulsa, OK
  68  WDBJ     Roanoke VA
  83  WOLO     Columbia SC
 121  WMAZ     Macon GA
  --  CFTO     Toronto ON


Top 30 Markets not yet in HD for Jeopardy and Wheel
   7  WSBK     Boston, MA       Not yet, but working on it
   8  WJLA     Washington, DC   No
  14  KOMO     Seattle, WA      No
  16  WPLG     Miami, FL        No, looking to go HD in 2007
  23  KATU     Portland, OR     No
  27  KNSD     San Diego, CA    No
  28  WTNH     Hartford, New Haven, CT   No
  30  WKRN     Nashville, TN    Wheel of Fortune in SD
      WUXP     Nashville, TN    Jeopardy in SD
post #305 of 409
For KOMO in Seattle - a station that was among the first in the nation to do local news in HD when you could count them with the fingers on 1 hand - not to be broadcasting Wheel and Jeopardy in HD is very puzzling as you know they have the equipment
post #306 of 409
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Originally Posted by afiggatt View Post

There are surely more stations in the smaller DMAs that are showing Jeopardy and/or Wheel in HD, so if anyone knows of one, post it here in the next few days and I will try to update the list.

KJRH, Market 62, Tulsa, OK shows both in HD.
post #307 of 409
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Originally Posted by afiggatt View Post

That so many stations are now able to show the two syndicated programs in HD is a good sign as they now have the equipment to show other syndicated programs in HD. May be a while before other syndicated programs start to show up in HD, but the groundwork is being laid.]

Yes, now If we could just get more of said HD programming. The ACC this weekend is a good start. Of course, you have to wonder about Wheel & Jeopardy when you get no viewer complaints after having a few shows not air in HD due to feed or record issues..
post #308 of 409
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Originally Posted by HDTVFanAtic View Post

For KOMO in Seattle - a station that was among the first in the nation to do local news in HD when you could count them with the fingers on 1 hand - not to be broadcasting Wheel and Jeopardy in HD is very puzzling as you know they have the equipment

Well, now that we know that stations in 20 of the top 25 DMAs are broadcasting Jeopardy in HD, you could use that information to prod the management of the larger market stations that are not broadcasting the shows on HD. Ask them why they aren't in HD?
post #309 of 409
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Originally Posted by afiggatt View Post

Well, now that we know that stations in 20 of the top 25 DMAs are broadcasting Jeopardy in HD, you could use that information to prod the management of the larger market stations that are not broadcasting the shows on HD. Ask them why they aren't in HD?

I don't live in Seattle - or Washington either - and could really care less if KOMO broadcasts Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune in HD as I don't watch game shows in the first place.

Regardless, NO HD enthusiast can be critical of KOMO as they were one of the first 5 stations in America to go HD in their newscasts - which was far more important than Wheel or Jeopardy.

I just find it very strange that they are not airing those in HD as clearly they are one of the stations in America that it should have been the easiest to accomplish that.

Considering the fact that they have done HD Newscasts for several years - versus an hour of game shows a night - I'd go for the HD Newscasts every time.
post #310 of 409
Perhaps they lack equipment to delay HD. From what I've seen and read of stations doing HD news, they can only do HD live in the studio. Anything delayed or remote is 16:9 component SD at best, and 4:3 composite SD at worst. I know that the station here is delaying Wheel/Jeopardy using HD tape, but delaying HD is hardly a new concept to MST stations.
post #311 of 409
Although the market area I reside in (Fresno, CA) isn't a major national player, the local ABC affiliate (KFSN 30) does have the ability to do HD broadcasts locally. They recently broadcast a locally-produced documentary in HD, although they do not do "live" HD (news).

Guessing they would need to do the "tape delay" thing to run JEOPARDY/WHEEL in HD?
post #312 of 409
Aren't Wheel and Jeopardy distributed via pathfire? I know there is a satellite feed for HD - at least for now, but could some stations be waiting on upgrades to Pathfire for HD instead of recording on tape?
post #313 of 409
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Aren't Wheel and Jeopardy distributed via pathfire? I know there is a satellite feed for HD - at least for now, but could some stations be waiting on upgrades to Pathfire for HD instead of recording on tape?

SD is, Crapfire doesn't have the HD distribution ready yet.. there's also a storage
space issue with most of the servers out there..
post #314 of 409
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Originally Posted by bdfox18doe View Post

SD is, Crapfire doesn't have the HD distribution ready yet.. there's also a storage
space issue with most of the servers out there..

That's what I was inferring. Some stations may simply be waiting on upgrades for pathfire, rather than mess around with band-aids for what is certainly going to be a temporary situation. The shows will be available on Pathfire in HD at some point and with storage prices getting lower and lower, that will become a non-issue, as well.
post #315 of 409
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

. Some stations may simply be waiting on upgrades for pathfire, .

I'm in no hurry.. have 3 of the servers and 2 workstations here..and It's always
something with them. We'd still have to dub to XDcamHD so I'm fine with the satellite feed.
post #316 of 409
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Originally Posted by coyoteaz View Post

Perhaps they lack equipment to delay HD. From what I've seen and read of stations doing HD news, they can only do HD live in the studio. Anything delayed or remote is 16:9 component SD at best, and 4:3 composite SD at worst. I know that the station here is delaying Wheel/Jeopardy using HD tape, but delaying HD is hardly a new concept to MST stations.

It would seem then that the Tucson stations would have the equipment to do the HD versions. They have not yet done so. I don't know how much value there is in seeing Pat Sajack, Alex Trebeck and Vanna White in HD but...more HD is better than less...
post #317 of 409
From what I have heard, you don't want to see Vanna White in HD.
post #318 of 409
From what I've seen, Vanna White in HD is just fine. She's not what she was 25 years ago, but she's one fine looking 50 year old.
post #319 of 409
Wheel of Fortune has to be one the best looking HD show out there. The colors are truly outstanding. My wife loves to watch it now just because how the show really pops. Very impressive.
post #320 of 409
WJLA has started showing Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD as of 7/5

WJLA was also one of the last stations (and the largest market) to air Jimmy Kimmel Live, it had something to do with lost local ad revenue. It got so bad even Kimmel was commenting on it.

Edit: Two affiliates in Atlanta and Charlotte just added Kimmel.
post #321 of 409
Boston is still SD for these two shows and WSBK was able to delay HD showings of Enterprise.
post #322 of 409
Ironically WSBK is a CBS O&O, and CBS is doing the HD syndication feeds. The titan tv listing shows them as being in HD on WSBK, so maybe there are plans in the works.
post #323 of 409
Does anyone know, or have any info on, when these programs will be aired in HD in Austin, TX?
post #324 of 409
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Originally Posted by TVOD View Post

Ironically WSBK is a CBS O&O, and CBS is doing the HD syndication feeds. The titan tv listing shows them as being in HD on WSBK, so maybe there are plans in the works.

When I updated the list, I searched the Boston OTA thread and found a post from the WSBK station engineer that they were ordering the equipment to provide the two shows in HD. You might want to check with him on the status of their upgrade plans.

As for the Austin, TX station or any local station that is showing Jeopardy in SD, contact the station and ask when they plan to provide the two shows in HD. A search for Jeopardy in the appropriate local thread may turn up information. I would ask anyone who has info on any station not on the list as to if they are planning to go HD or already have done so to post the city and station call letters here so I can update the list.
post #325 of 409
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Originally Posted by afiggatt View Post


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As for the Austin, TX station or any local station that is showing Jeopardy in SD, contact the station and ask when they plan to provide the two shows in HD. A search for Jeopardy in the appropriate local thread may turn up information.

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Great ( and prob. obvious ) tip.....

Here's the one comment I turned up that was posted October '06. Pretty vague though. KXAN Austin, TX

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Originally Posted by gdmedia View Post

I was told by KXAN that they would not be showing Wheel or Jeopardy in HD until sometime after the first of the year. They say the problem is that the shows are downloaded from the syndicator in the morning for replay later in the day and KXAN has no recorder capable of storing the HD signal for later replay. Such a recorder "was not in the budget" for this year.

Given that a DVR you can rent from Time-Warner can store 30 hours of perfect HD, you wouldn't think this would be such a big deal but apparently it is, at least to KXAN.

I'll try contacting the station to see if they are giving any more definitive info at this point.
post #326 of 409
The TW PVR records ATSC level HD @ ~19.3 Mb/s . The Wheel/Jeopardy feeds are ~45Mb/s.
post #327 of 409
Syndication Ready for HD Boost

Pathfire System Capable of HD Delivery

Warner Bros. and syndication distribution network Pathfire are gearing up to distribute more HD content than ever this fall.

The companies this week announced the creation of the first file-based HD syndication delivery service, capable of delivering HD content to more than 1,400 broadcast facilities.

"We now have the ability to send HD shows to any Pathfire station," said Joe Fabiano, Pathfire's chief technology officer. "We can encode a show, compress it, send it over satellite and have it play out successfully."

Pathfire is the primary distribution method for the majority of shows in syndication, including CBS Television Distribution's "The Oprah Winfrey Show" and "Jeopardy" and Warner Bros.' "Friends."

Thus far, only CBS's "Jeopardy" and "Wheel of Fortune" have been syndicated in the format. Due to technical limitations, the game shows have been distributed in a cumbersome linear format that requires a certain degree of manpower. The new Pathfire system will automate the process and allow syndication of HD material as easily as standard-definition material.

Limitations still exist, however, on either side of the delivery system. Studios have been sluggish converting syndicated shows to HD, while stations have been slow to upgrade their HD broadcasting capabilities. At last count, "Wheel" and "Jeopardy" were going out in HD to only about a third of households.

Mr. Fabiano said to expect "a lot" of new HD content when the Pathfire HD system launches this fall.

http://www.tvweek.com/page.cms?pageId=692
post #328 of 409
Oh yeah, bring it on! Count us here in Jacksonville as among the 2/3 who don't get any local HD on anything.
post #329 of 409
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p.s. WOF and Jeopardy in HD by July.

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Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD as of 7/5 in Washington DC
post #330 of 409
Putting up a new post to revive the thread! Jeopardy and Wheel were in HD tonight on WJLA-DT ABC 7 in Washington, DC. That means 9 of the top 10 DMAs, 17 out of the 20, 21 out of the top 25 DMAs are now showing the two shows in HD. Looks like #7 Boston is the last holdout out of the top 13 DMAs.
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