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post #31 of 2935
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Originally Posted by RiderOnTheStorm View Post

I see this thread is acceptable. It made a HUGE difference that the originator of this thread owns the set. We couldn't have possibly gained anything from a thread started by a non owner.

Admit it...the real source of your sour grapes is TV envy. klac's got it, you want it.

Hey, me too. Especially since it sounds like the viewing angle will be workable for me! I just have to find a store with one now...!
post #32 of 2935
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Originally Posted by tg2k View Post

I just have to find a store with one now...!

It's getting easier. Pricegrabber now shows four stores for a 5679W, two days ago only one store appeared.
post #33 of 2935
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Originally Posted by klac View Post

Dang, that's high! Well I did some quick measurements and a test and I think you'll be fine. At 37" your stand is 19" taller than mine and my couch is 19" high. So I sat on the floor at 10' and didn't notice a difference in brightness. If you notice a difference you could always add a slight tilt to the TV. In the 7178 thread there's a pic of one.


Thanks again
post #34 of 2935
These pics look great and the 5679 is very tempting but alas, I will be sitting 12-13 feet away and afraid 56" doesn't look big enough from that distance. In stores, 61" TV's from that distance look great and I think 56" at 10 feet looks great. Of the new owners here, how far away are you from the TV when watching?
post #35 of 2935
Just got mine in yesterday. I don't see any issues with it being dim at all. In fact I turned the contrast and brightness down to 50, sharpness to 0, and DNIe / DNR to off. Everything else is default at the moment. PQ is excellent as far as I can tell but I'm no trained eye. I've love some suggestions on any settings I should try.

I hooked up the UHF antenna last night (first time I've ever done this). I was amazed to see I got every channel in my area w/o an outdoor model antenna. I then compared the Colts/Rams football game between TWC HD channel and my local OTA HD station. The difference is AMAZING... OTA was far better. DVD's looked pretty good too. I was a little under whelmed with NTSC signals but it's better than anything else I've seen on digital sets. I'm still spoiled on my old tried and true Pioneer Elite NTSC set for NTSC quality.

Here are some crappy pics; my only camera right now is a sub function of my camcorder so any noise you see is the camera... it's terrible sorry.

Here's the link to start with...

http://www.cltonline.com/images/HL-S5679W/DSC00015.JPG

change the number on the end to see all the pics I'm too lazy to name them...

15-17 is Baseball on ESPN HD

18 is Sci-Fi in SD

19-20 is Tennis on a blue court on INHD

21 is another Baseball on ESPN HD still shot

22 is another Tennis on a blue court on INHD

23-26 is some SD Comedy Central shots

27-34 various HD channels (the pics really do not do this any justice what-so-ever sorry)

35-47 is various dvd shots, really bad shots though lol

Sorry my pics are basically useless but I fogured I'd share them anyways.

-jrdnyquist
post #36 of 2935
One question I have right off the bat is about the TV Guide Feature. I set it up last night for my cable box and OTA. The Docs say that the menu "downloads" data for the guide daily but how? My cable box uses an HDMI connection. Do I have to plug in the cable box with coax to get the guide data or something? How does the data come down for the OTA channels?
post #37 of 2935
ok now that we've gotta all stand and distance issues out of the way
could we focus on getting an in-depth review of PQ on this set? :P
post #38 of 2935
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Originally Posted by tg2k View Post

Admit it...the real source of your sour grapes is TV envy. klac's got it, you want it.

Hey, me too. Especially since it sounds like the viewing angle will be workable for me! I just have to find a store with one now...!


I'm not sure I'm envious yet or not. We'll have to see how this technology pans out. If it eliminates rainbows, and proves to be a reliable technology, then I migthbe very envious, but not until they come in 61" or more
post #39 of 2935
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Originally Posted by dfwald View Post

These pics look great and the 5679 is very tempting but alas, I will be sitting 12-13 feet away and afraid 56" doesn't look big enough from that distance. In stores, 61" TV's from that distance look great and I think 56" at 10 feet looks great. Of the new owners here, how far away are you from the TV when watching?

11.5 feet here, looks absolutely stunning to me with 720p and 1080i signals. I wish I was a few more feet back though it would prob remove the most of noise I see in SD signals. I see noise in all SD signals on digital sets but I must say it's not as bad on this set as any other digital I've seen.
post #40 of 2935
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Originally Posted by jrdnyquist View Post

One question I have right off the bat is about the TV Guide Feature. I set it up last night for my cable box and OTA. The Docs say that the menu "downloads" data for the guide daily but how? My cable box uses an HDMI connection. Do I have to plug in the cable box with coax to get the guide data or something? How does the data come down for the OTA channels?

I had the 6188 for a short while and I used my outdoor antenna for OTA HD. After set-up (including your zip-code) your set will take a certain amount of time to receive TV Guide information from over the air waves. It's down loaded automatically and that's it. The info is specific to your area (zip-code) for OTA. I don't know about cable cause I've never had it.
post #41 of 2935
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Originally Posted by jrdnyquist View Post

Just got mine in yesterday. I don't see any issues with it being dim at all. In fact I turned the contrast and brightness down to 50, sharpness to 0, and DNIe / DNR to off. Everything else is default at the moment. PQ is excellent as far as I can tell but I'm no trained eye. I've love some suggestions on any settings I should try.

I hooked up the UHF antenna last night (first time I've ever done this). I was amazed to see I got every channel in my area w/o an outdoor model antenna. I then compared the Colts/Rams football game between TWC HD channel and my local OTA HD station. The difference is AMAZING... OTA was far better. DVD's looked pretty good too. I was a little under whelmed with NTSC signals but it's better than anything else I've seen on digital sets. I'm still spoiled on my old tried and true Pioneer Elite NTSC set for NTSC quality.

Here are some crappy pics; my only camera right now is a sub function of my camcorder so any noise you see is the camera... it's terrible sorry.

Here's the link to start with...

http://www.cltonline.com/images/HL-S5679W/DSC00015.JPG

change the number on the end to see all the pics I'm too lazy to name them...

15-17 is Baseball on ESPN HD

18 is Sci-Fi in SD

19-20 is Tennis on a blue court on INHD

21 is another Baseball on ESPN HD still shot

22 is another Tennis on a blue court on INHD

23-26 is some SD Comedy Central shots

27-34 various HD channels (the pics really do not do this any justice what-so-ever sorry)

35-47 is various dvd shots, really bad shots though lol

Sorry my pics are basically useless but I fogured I'd share them anyways.

-jrdnyquist

Hi, a big thing with Samsung sets is the video noise that is there right out of the box. I had a 6188 and the noise was so bad that it turned me off completely. Is it any difference with the 5679?
post #42 of 2935
What indoor UHF antenna model did you use and where did you get it? Are those 640 x 480 resolution shots? I certainly hope the real screen looks far better than those. Thanks for the effort though. Any chance of borrowing someone's real digital camera???



Quote:
Originally Posted by jrdnyquist View Post

Just got mine in yesterday. I don't see any issues with it being dim at all. In fact I turned the contrast and brightness down to 50, sharpness to 0, and DNIe / DNR to off. Everything else is default at the moment. PQ is excellent as far as I can tell but I'm no trained eye. I've love some suggestions on any settings I should try.

I hooked up the UHF antenna last night (first time I've ever done this). I was amazed to see I got every channel in my area w/o an outdoor model antenna. I then compared the Colts/Rams football game between TWC HD channel and my local OTA HD station. The difference is AMAZING... OTA was far better. DVD's looked pretty good too. I was a little under whelmed with NTSC signals but it's better than anything else I've seen on digital sets. I'm still spoiled on my old tried and true Pioneer Elite NTSC set for NTSC quality.

Here are some crappy pics; my only camera right now is a sub function of my camcorder so any noise you see is the camera... it's terrible sorry.

Here's the link to start with...

http://www.cltonline.com/images/HL-S5679W/DSC00015.JPG

change the number on the end to see all the pics I'm too lazy to name them...

15-17 is Baseball on ESPN HD

-jrdnyquist
post #43 of 2935
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

Hi, a big thing with Samsung sets is the video noise that is there right out of the box. I had a 6188 and the noise was so bad that it turned me off completely. Is it any difference with the 5679?

Well again I'm not really a trained eye but I see some noise in the picture (with the SA 8300HD) there's no doubt about it. This is especially true with SD signals. The noise in the HD signals was only noticeable to me when using the TWC cable box. OTA was pristine with native HD content, I still saw noise in SD signals via OTA.

I've yet to see a digtial set w/o some noise in the picture to be honest. I plan on getting umr to calibrate the set when he can make it to town. Hopefully someone that's seen the set and knows what the heck they're talking about (concerning PQ) can respond.
post #44 of 2935
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Originally Posted by dfwald View Post

What indoor UHF antenna model did you use and where did you get it? Are those 640 x 480 resolution shots? I certainly hope the real screen looks far better than those. Thanks for the effort though. Any chance of borrowing someone's real digital camera???

Yeah man that thing should not even be allowed the name "camera". My friend is coming over sat with a very nice camera I'll get some high quality shots up by monday.

Here's the Antenna I got from best buy:

Terk Indoor Amplified HDTV Antenna
Model: HDTVA
post #45 of 2935
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

We have to make sure that "UMR/Eliab/David Abrams" post their impressions as soon as they have a chance to calibrate one.

Agreed! Anyone planning on getting their set calibrated by one of them anytime soon? Id like to see a professional review before I pull the trigger.
post #46 of 2935
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Originally Posted by fpajerski View Post

It's getting easier. Pricegrabber now shows four stores for a 5679W, two days ago only one store appeared.

I need to find a B&M just to see what I've pre-ordered many months ago from TVA. Guess I should call TVA and see if they have any info for me too...
post #47 of 2935
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

Hi, a big thing with Samsung sets is the video noise that is there right out of the box. I had a 6188 and the noise was so bad that it turned me off completely. Is it any difference with the 5679?

A good calibration will virtually eliminate it. See the TECH LINKS post in my signature block for calibrating tweaks/tips for self-calibration or links to the ISF pros.

Remember, the tech links thread is for the HL-S6187/6188 series, but much will apply to the HL-S5679 series...

Cheers,
Doc

post #48 of 2935
Anybody hook a PC to it (either via HDMI or VGA) and able to get 1920x1080p resoultion?
post #49 of 2935
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dfwald View Post

These pics look great and the 5679 is very tempting but alas, I will be sitting 12-13 feet away and afraid 56" doesn't look big enough from that distance. In stores, 61" TV's from that distance look great and I think 56" at 10 feet looks great. Of the new owners here, how far away are you from the TV when watching?

I'm 10' back and I think that's about perfect for a 56". I'd agree that at 12'-13' a 61" would be better.
post #50 of 2935
I am an owner of sorts. I've been billed and paid for the set but Crutchfields' "free" shipping is taking forever.

Anyway, here is a picture of the DLP Light Engine with LED Illumination:



and Phlat Light:

post #51 of 2935
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by f300v10 View Post

klac, could you please comment on black levels and shadow detail?

I watched Matrix Revolutions last night starting where Neo gets to the machine city. The black bars looked pretty dark but next to the black cabinet I could tell that they were grey. Using Word on my notebook I made a table with rows ranging from black to white then held it next to the screen. The black bars matched the row with 85% grey. Then I did the same thing on my CRT. The first thing I noticed was that the black bars change color depending on how bright the picture is - with the 5679 the bar color was consistent. During the dark scenes the bar color varied between 90-95% grey.

Shadow detail was superior on the 5679. I noted scenes on the CRT where Neo or Smith appeared all black with no detail, then went back and watched those scenes on the 5679. In several cases I could see details that were'nt there on the CRT. Also I could make out much more detail in the machine city on the 5679.

I'll never be able to enjoy a movie on my CRT again!

Here's the color scale I used:
post #52 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Wesley Hester View Post

I am an owner of sorts. I've been billed and paid for the set but Crutchfields' "free" shipping is taking forever.

Maybe you're just eager to get it?
When I bought my 6188 from them in June, it was just a little over a week from order to delivery.
Plus, I still won't be paying them a cent for another year and a half!

Enjoy that 5679 when it comes. I originally wanted one, but couldn't wait any longer on those production delays.
post #53 of 2935
I jumped online to Samsung's site to register for my "free extra 3 months" warranty extention (pfft). They don't even have the 5679 listed as a tv... I have "10 days" to get the 3 month extention yet I can't register it unless I fill out a postcard? Who in the hell still knows how to write with pen and paper?

Not a big deal just thought I'd mention it
post #54 of 2935
One of the advantages of LED technology is the increased power efficiency. That is, LEDs are supposed to use less electricity than regular light bulb based displays.
So what is the power rating on the Sammy? Does the display get very hot?
Is the fan noticeable?
post #55 of 2935
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Originally Posted by reincarnate View Post

One of the advantages of LED technology is the increased power efficiency. That is, LEDs are supposed to use less electricity than regular light bulb based displays.

Probably true, but while high intensity LEDs that are found in flashlights run at about 30 lumens per Watt, high pressure discharge lamps found in RPTVs run about 110 lm/W (while incandescent lamps run about 15 lm/W.) (This all from memory.)

But the improved collection efficiency of the LED along with the (very clever) Phlatlight technology should result in low power.
post #56 of 2935
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Originally Posted by klac View Post

I watched Matrix Revolutions last night starting where Neo gets to the machine city. The black bars looked pretty dark but next to the black cabinet I could tell that they were grey. Using Word on my notebook I made a table with rows ranging from black to white then held it next to the screen. The black bars matched the row with 85% grey. Then I did the same thing on my CRT. The first thing I noticed was that the black bars change color depending on how bright the picture is - with the 5679 the bar color was consistent. During the dark scenes the bar color varied between 90-95% grey.

Shadow detail was superior on the 5679. I noted scenes on the CRT where Neo or Smith appeared all black with no detail, then went back and watched those scenes on the 5679. In several cases I could see details that were'nt there on the CRT. Also I could make out much more detail in the machine city on the 5679.

I'll never be able to enjoy a movie on my CRT again!

Thanks klac, it sounds like the black levels are pretty good, but there is room for improvement.
post #57 of 2935
Quote:
Originally Posted by reincarnate View Post

One of the advantages of LED technology is the increased power efficiency. That is, LEDs are supposed to use less electricity than regular light bulb based displays.
So what is the power rating on the Sammy? Does the display get very hot?
Is the fan noticeable?

I'm wondering the same thing. I have a "Kill a watt" meter I can that can measure how much electricity something is using. My DLP projector uses about 210 watts. I hope some new owners of this TV will measure how much power it uses.
post #58 of 2935
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Originally Posted by klac View Post

... During the dark scenes the bar color varied between 90-95% grey.

Shadow detail was superior on the 5679. I noted scenes on the CRT where Neo or Smith appeared all black with no detail, then went back and watched those scenes on the 5679. In several cases I could see details that were'nt there on the CRT. Also I could make out much more detail in the machine city on the 5679.

I'll never be able to enjoy a movie on my CRT again!

Was the 90-95% grey your CRT? Have you done any calibration or plan on having it calibrated? Like most I'm curious how good the blacks can be on the 5679.
post #59 of 2935
klac; Someone has to be the first. Man, don't you just hate that?
BTW, clever idea reserving a post "for future use". Never thought of that.

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Anyway, here is a picture of the DLP Light Engine with LED Illumination:

Wow! a three tube or should I say chip television camera in reverse.
post #60 of 2935
How about the 'red push' and 'noise' issues (I believe those were the two everyone was talking about) that were reported from the winter CES?
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