Revel Owners Thread - Page 76

Originally Posted by 4DHD

All AVRs, pre/pros set the distances from the main seat with the channels set in pairs, except for the center channel.

Originally Posted by duc135

Both of my Denons set each channel's distance individually down to a tenth of a foot increments.

Revel:
The brand will replace its entire Performa series of bookshelf and tower speakers with the Performa3 series. The new series is said to raise performance through advances in driver design. Prices will also drop slightly.

The first eight speakers will be priced from a targeted $1,200 U.S./pair to $4,500 U.S./pair. Two more speakers due in the fall will add a third tower at around $6,000 U.S. to $6,500 U.S. /pair.

The first eight speakers will consist of two bookshelf models, two floorstanding towers, two center channels, one bipolar surround and one subwoofer.

Originally Posted by ehlarson

Well I'm glad they are doing a bipolar surround as that is the last non-Revel speaker I have. I hope it's a good one.

Originally Posted by VinhT

Anyone know how to remove Revel C760L speakers? The custom installer pointed them the wrong way, so I need to fix them. Is there any way to disengage the roller-lock mechanism so that the speakers can be removed without tearing out all of the surrounding drywall?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

LAS VEGAS, Nevada - HARMAN's Revel today announced the introduction of its Performa3 loudspeakers, a complete range of home theater and music loudspeakers that incorporates significant engineering enhancements to the original Performa Series to deliver extraordinary music and movie soundtrack reproduction. Complementing their audiophile-caliber performance, Revel Performa3 loudspeakers are stunning in appearance, with a choice of high-gloss real wood and automotive-grade painted finishes.
The 10 models in the Performa3 line include the following:

F308 3-way floorstanding tower (1-inch tweeter, 5.25-inch midrange, three 8-inch woofers; SRP: $6,000/pr)
F208 3-way floorstanding tower (1-inch tweeter, 5.25-inch midrange, dual 8-inch woofers; SRP: 4,500/pr)
F206 3-way floorstanding tower (1-inch tweeter, 5.25-inch midrange, dual 6.5-inch woofers; SRP: 3,000/pr)
M106 2-way bookshelf monitor (1-inch tweeter, 6.5-inch woofer; SRP: $1,700/pr)
M105 2-way bookshelf monitor (1-inch tweeter, 5.25-inch woofer; SRP: $1,200/pr)
C208 3-way center channel (1-inch tweeter, 4-inch midrange, dual 8-inch woofers; SRP: $1,700/ea)
C205 2-way center channel (1-inch tweeter, dual 5.25-inch woofers; SRP: $1,000/ea)
S206 2-way surround speaker (dual 1-inch tweeters, dual 6.5-inch woofers; SRP: 1,800/pr)
B112 powered subwoofer (12-inch woofer, built-in 1000-watt amplifier; SRP: $2,500/ea)
B110 powered subwoofer (10-inch woofer, built-in 500-watt amplifier; SRP: $1,700/ea)

Our Revel Performa loudspeakers have earned rave reviews from audiophiles since their initial introduction, said Jim Garrett, Senior Manager, Marketing for HARMAN Luxury Audio Group. We have made a number of advancements in loudspeaker materials and manufacturing technologies that we are now able to incorporate into the upgraded Performa3 models. We are confident that listeners will be thrilled with the improvements in sonic performance and musical accuracy.
To achieve their superior sound quality, Revel Performa3 loudspeakers deploy proprietary drivers throughout. The 1-inch pure-aluminum-dome tweeters deliver airy, extended high-frequency response to beyond 20kHz, with superlative detail and clarity. The tweeters operate into an exclusive Acoustic Lens Waveguide that is precisely shaped for optimum imaging and horizontal and vertical dispersion both on-and off axis.
The midrange and low-frequency drivers employ aluminum cones for extraordinary resolution and responsiveness, along with a seamless sonic blend with the tweeters. The cones have integral ribs that add strength and rigidity for clear, richly detailed sound with reduced distortion even at higher volumes. The drivers incorporate additional refinements including cast-aluminum frames and efficiently vented, high-power motor structures, to deliver smooth, natural vocal and instrumental reproduction.
Only the finest materials and internal components are used for Revel Performa3 loudspeakers, including air-core inductors and audiophile-grade polypropylene capacitors in the crossover network, and heavy-duty gold-plated binding posts. Depending on the model, a tweeter level control allows the speakers' high-frequency balance to be fine-tuned, and a Boundary control enables the speakers to be tailored to individual room acoustics and placement positions.
The enclosures are built to the highest standards, with internal damping and bracing at critical locations and curved side panels that minimize cabinet-induced coloration. The larger models feature individual sub-enclosures for the midrange drivers for maximum midrange clarity and definition. Each Revel Performa3 loudspeaker is individually calibrated against a manufacturing reference standard to ensure absolutely consistent performance from every speaker that leaves the factory.
Revel Performa3 loudspeakers are as stunning in appearance as they are in performance with elegantly proportioned curved and contoured enclosures that are available in a choice of high-gloss real-wood and automotive-grade painted finishes.
Revel Performa3 loudspeakers will be available in Q2 2012 except the F308 and B110, which will be available in September 2012.

Originally Posted by thrand1

The naming convention is certainly different, trying to connect it all together here still. Trying to figure out how these slot in/compare to the Performa2 lineup...
F308 seems to replaces F52 (larger woofers 8 in vs. 6.5)
F208 is new
F206 replaces F32
M106 replaces M22
M105 is new
C208 replaces C32/C52
C205 matches M105?
The B112 and B110 replace B15a/are new models. Interesting they went from the 15 inch driver to 12 and 10 inch drivers, respectively.

I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing these in person at my dealer to see if the Revel sound has changed much from Performa2. The image posted kind of reminds me of the Paradigm Signature series in a way with the curvature of the enclosure and the "inset" on the top of the speaker. Either way, some interesting times ahead

Originally Posted by thrand1

The naming convention is certainly different, trying to connect it all together here still. Trying to figure out how these slot in/compare to the Performa2 lineup...
F308 seems to replaces F52 (larger woofers 8 in vs. 6.5)
F208 is new
F206 replaces F32
M106 replaces M22
M105 is new
C208 replaces C32/C52
C205 matches M105?
The B112 and B110 replace B15a/are new models. Interesting they went from the 15 inch driver to 12 and 10 inch drivers, respectively.

I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing these in person at my dealer to see if the Revel sound has changed much from Performa2. The image posted kind of reminds me of the Paradigm Signature series in a way with the curvature of the enclosure and the "inset" on the top of the speaker. Either way, some interesting times ahead

Originally Posted by gary cornell

Cost cutting due to mainly to the wood? I look at the M22 and the new version, then look at the M20's in Rosewood in my bedroom - no contest.

Originally Posted by ehlarson

I seriously doubt that it's a photo. If you look at it the shadows are completely unrealistic.

Originally Posted by VinhT

I've been eagerly anticipating this announcement for the past year.
Definitely disappointed in the traditional MTM center, especially with the woofers so far apart due to the large waveguide. Unless they've somehow broken the laws of physics, it's an indicator to me that Revel is straying from the commitment to quality design that I respected.

The smaller subs is understandable, as they would rather you buy four of them anyway. Besides, aside from the B15 of yore, Revel has never really been competitive in the subwoofer category.

The surround speaker sends a bit of a conflicting message. With the Gem2, they were going away from bipoles/dipoles for surround speakers, but now they appear to be back.

Overall, a lot to think about. I think it's great that the speakers are more affordable, and I was hoping to just buy them blind, but some of the design choices have given me reservations about doing so. Can't wait to learn more about these speakers.

Originally Posted by VinhT

Definitely disappointed in the traditional MTM center, especially with the woofers so far apart due to the large waveguide. Unless they've somehow broken the laws of physics, it's an indicator to me that Revel is straying from the commitment to quality design that I respected.

Originally Posted by ehlarson

Here is a good article on why a horizontal MTM center speaker design has issues.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/speakers/89...d-avoided.html

It isn't a matter where listening provides any particular new insight. The underlying physics are inescapable.

Increase in sound at certain frequencies and cancellation at other frequencies.
Poor off-axis response and narrowing of sweet spot.
Poorer vertical response as you stand up or sit on a higher chair.
Horizontal lobing with hot and cold spots.
Coloration of the tone.
Poor comprehension and intelligibility of speech.
Lack of music clarity.
Poor imaging and its shift from the middle.

Originally Posted by Ajani

First real pic below and IMO MUCH better looking than the drawing:



http://www.hometheater.com/content/r...e-speaker-line

Originally Posted by 4DHD

Except the white one!!