Originally Posted by DiscCollector
Why didn't REVEL make a proper "C206" center speaker?
A "matching" center is just marketing nonsense. There is only one true matching center: the same speaker, at the same height, in the same orientation.
And since anything less than identical speaker in the identical orientation at the identical height is a compromise, anyway, the differences between things like x bass driver vs. y bass driver are de minimis in the hands of competent engineers.
Originally Posted by SyntheticShrimp
I wouldn't write off the m105. I recently heard them at my local dealer and was astonished at how good they were. I have seen the measurements of them and they are superb. Needless to say I had to get a pair.
I compared them to the m106s while I was there. I preferred the m105s. In retrospect this isn't too suprising as they use the 5.25" driver for the rest of the performa3 range, excluding the c208. It probably matches the tweeter's dispersion better.
I suspect you're onto something there. Perhaps it's similar to the KEF Q100 and Q300, where the midrange quality of the smaller one is clearly better in most rooms due to superior pattern matching at the crossover. Speaking of KEF, your avatar is the LS50, so I'm curious how you would compare an obviously "voiced" speaker like the LS50 to the obviously "neutral" M105. Have you listened to them back-to-back?
Originally Posted by mrlittlejeans
Good points duc135. I've never understood why so much focus on AVS rests on sheer output of a subwoofer rather than on the sound quality of said subwoofer. As if the sub that can hit the highest SPL with some predetermined amount of THD is the best one out at the moment.
Mostly because the differences between subs is swamped by differences in calibration and placement. Yes, there are some crude subs with big output that sound like crap. Most of them use very simplistic drive-units with very long voicecoils and no inductance control. But anything from say a Peerless XLS12 or XXLS12 (as used in the SVS SB12-NSD now, and the Genelec sub in the "Way Down Deep" comparison) to the Aurasound NS18-992-4A (used in the new multikilobuck Magico subs, and my personal reference driver for years now) will sound basically the same so long as one has enough of them to randomize room modes, and enough volume displacement to meet one's SPL goals.
Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy
Originally Posted by duc135
Take a listen to a good pair of headphones. You think the bass on those headphones are not punchy and tight?
There's NO bass from any headphones for me to consider punchy and tight.
As I've said, it depends on your DEFINITION of punchy and tight.
There is no UNIVERSAL definition.
To me, there is NO BASS from any headphone to begin with.
If it can't shake and rattle my walls and my bones like a rag doll, then it's NO bass at all in my book.
Try the Denon D2000, and presumably D5000 and D7000, as well as the current variant thereof (sold under the brand of the OEM, Fostex). They can seriously shake one's ears and neck. I've never experienced another set of headphones that can move more air cleanly than those cans.