If the Queen had balls she'd be king.
Originally Posted by astrallite
Well all of this angry mob (most apparently who have never heard or even owned the gem2s) were angry I claimed the Gem2s were flawed. I never claimed Revel failed their design goals for the Gem2 as a surround speaker ( whatever they were ). I was responding to your post saying the guy didnt review the best bookshelf speakers, the gem2. If you rate the gem2s not as an ultima surround speaker but as mains role as bookshelf speakers
, thry are flawed because you have to give up stereo imaging from 80-120hz and either a sub or midbass module has to fill in the gap. (And this makes a sub directional, so placement options become severely limited). Thats all Im saying. And certainly for $12000 (with stands) it makes it even harder to swallow given that limitation.
Of course the other thing I was hinting at was the Gem2 was probably not going to win any speaker face-offs against ported speakers in its price bracket without a (carefully placed) sub involved (you may need 2, 1 right next to each gem2 to avoid upper bass directionality) unless the only thing you were comparing was violins and triangles.
The Gem2 speaker's real design purpose is NOT as a main monitor so, yes, if you try to force it to be one, in some installations it could be looked at as "flawed". But, so can most other speakers.
Look, the Gem 2 was designed to be essentially a very high end, placement friendly speaker. It's voiced to work best in concert with other Gem2's in a multi-channel setup or as surrounds with some of the larger Ultima series speakers. While Revel's not going to own up to it, I think the GEM2 concept, design, place in the market etc. etc. is a little long in the tooth because in-wall options have become better and better, as well as more attractive/accepted in people's homes.
I look at it as a speaker introduced because guys go into a stereo shop and buy expensive "XYZ" and they (and Revel dealers) want everything to look and match exactly right. Would I select the GEM2 as my first choice to make a movie theater out of if I needed bookshelf monitors? NO. And, I would venture to say neither would anyone at Revel. But, if the installation called for speakers designed like the GEM2 - thin, on-wall, or room placement friendly, I would think they would be as good as any.
In short: You're taking the Gem2 out of context and then griping about it. It sounds to me as if you are missing the forest for the trees. While the science behind loud speakers is fun and exciting, ultimately they are engineered to serve a given purpose from a room + performance + installation stand point.Edited by PlexMulti - 2/5/14 at 12:08pm