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I still don't buy it, and I think all those reference to Memento are using the term "non-linear" incorrectly. The storyline in Memento follows a straight line. The line is backwards, but it's linear. YMMV.

Sorry this is off topic but I must give Josh his props.

Well Josh, despite all of the references below (and from my previous post) I have to agree with you.

Seriously, your are correct "Memento" is a linear film. I was wrong (as are all the people below) and you are correct. My hat's off to you, very good! (see last link)

I'm including these links to show how many people, including myself, have the mistaken belief that Memento is a non-linear movie (and there were many more).


Screenwriting Structure Part 4: Balance By The UnknownScreenwriter

Excert from above link:

If you recall when Pulp Fiction came out, quite a few movies attempted to re-bottle the non-linear formula and do what Quentin Tarantino did and most of them failed miserably. One that didn't however, was Memento.

Why?

Both screenplays tell their stories in a non-linear fashion but they're certainly not derivative. Lots of reviewers have compared Memento to Pulp Fiction because of its non-linear storytelling but Christopher Nolan didn't didn't rip PF off. Rather, he went down a similar road that Tarantino did i.e., both created their structure from what they'd seen done in novels and as he got further into the script, he realized that he wanted the audience to more or less share Lenny's point of view, so he tweaked his structure to reflect that by weaving in more voice-over as well as utilizing camera angles that enabled US to see things through Lenny's (the Protagonist) eyes.


Memento - Reviewed By: Professor Steve

"With its non-linear style and intricate plot, the movie only gets better and more understood after repeat viewing."

Memento - Rotten Tomatoes Summary

"Memento" mines this psychological terrain, using non-linear film narrative to mirror Leonard's own effort to interpret the random pieces of evidence he hoards.

Non-Linear Movies by Randy Hoyt

I do contract web development work for Blockbuster, the movie-rental company headquartered here in Dallas. I had a conversation about non-linear movies a few weeks ago with some of my colleagues there. Two of my ten favorite movies (Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Memento) are undisputably non-linear movies, and two others (The Usual Suspects and Pan’s Labyrinth) make an extensive enough use of flashbacks or frame narratives to be classified as such by some. Let’s just say I like movies that are not in chronological order.

Full article here.

Harry's Movie Review from 'Ain't It Cool News'

[I]"What is MEMENTO? Well it is a non-linear tale about a handicapped avenging would-be detective seeking revenge for his ‘dead wife’. Looking for the J.G. that did it."[/i]

Memento: Movie Review By Joe Lozito

"The story doesn't rely on surprises endings or twists, in the vein of "The Sixth Sense" or "Fight Club". "Memento" has no trouble living up to scrutiny and, in fact, begs for repeat viewings by the nature of its non-linear structure."

Memento reviewed by George Perry of BBC Films

"The structure of Christopher Nolan's fascinatingly original second film is determinedly non-linear."


And finally, from the Director himself -

INTERVIEW: Mindgames; Christopher Nolan Remembers "Memento":

"This one was actually clearer because -- the AD was one of the first guys to point this out -- this is not a nonlinear film; this is an extremely linear film. You cannot move a scene. It was very tough in the editing to get it down to the right length because you could not lose a scene, otherwise you've lost your link between these things. It's very, very strongly linked scene-to-scene, much more so than a conventional movie."

Note: From these comments it appears that even Nolan considered it a non-linear film until the above was pointed out to him by the AD.
post #302 of 601
Orgazmo - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124819/

The unintentional (maybe intentional) commedy in this flick is off the wall. It's clearly a B rating movie but it's a fun watch. Besides, any non-porn movie with Ron Jeremy has to be pretty good doesn't it?
post #303 of 601
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Originally Posted by Kressilac View Post

Orgazmo - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124819/

The unintentional (maybe intentional) commedy in this flick is off the wall. It's clearly a B rating movie but it's a fun watch. Besides, any non-porn movie with Ron Jeremy has to be pretty good doesn't it?

No, it doesn't. And Orgazmo proves that!
post #304 of 601
Not the best movie but...

The Bermuda Depths.

A Rankin-Bas production, made for TV movie that appeared only one night, ever. Everyone who saw it that night seems to remember it their whole life. The combination of it's haunting music, bizarre story and evocative production design and FX made for a one-of-a-kind vibe. It's haunted many a childhood memory. For anyone who saw it the words "Beautiful dark haired Girl" and "Giant Sea Turtle" ought to stir the memory.
post #305 of 601
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

No, it doesn't. And Orgazmo proves that!

but hey, there is chasey lain.
post #306 of 601
Some crazy grindhouse.

But beware, this may shock you.

Massacre mafia style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LwdepZu09Y

Gone with the pope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vG3p...eature=related

Just hurry up, grindhouse releasing.
post #307 of 601
Thanks to the op for a genius thread and to all of you that posted. You've help me add at least a dozen flicks to my Netflix account.
My barely known favs:
The Abominable Dr. Phibes
Dr. Phibes Returns
High camp with Vincent Price at his best.
Somewhere in Time
A stellar performance by the late Christopher Reeve.
In a similar (but different vein):
Photographing Fairies
Only available on PAL. Had it on VHS but made the mistake of lending it out. Might still be found on the Bay.
Also only available on PAL:
The Lighthorsemen
One more that didn't have a decent anamorphic transfer that may be available in the future on Blu is:
Lifeforce.
(If one can believe Amazon.)
Last one:
Ladyhawke
Rutger Hauer goodie.
I understand that a couple of these may appear to contain a bit of "cheese" to some. I like to think of it more in the catagory of fine Brie.
Cheers !
post #308 of 601
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Originally Posted by Dean Roddey View Post

Hundreds of them, but I'll never remember them all. From my own collection:

1. The Anniversary Party
2. Gattaca
3. The Vertical Ray of the Sun
4. Before Sunrise and Before Sunset (see them back to back)
5. Eulogy
6. Foxfire
7. Chungking Express
8. Mystery Men
9. Living in Oblivion
10. At Close Range
11. Thirty Two Short Films about Glenn Gould
12. Ulee's Gold
13. Floundering
14. Grace of my Heart (wonderful film)
15. She's the One
16. The Spanish Prisoner
17. Permanent Midnight
18. Dazed and Confused
19. Mystery Train
20. Hurlyburly
21. The Apostle
22. Shopgirl

Obviously someone has heard of these, me at least, but they are all movies that are not well known, and very under-appreciated in my opinion.


Dazed and confused was classic.. haha
post #309 of 601
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Originally Posted by Tony S View Post

Photographing Fairies

Reminded me of:
FairyTale: A True Story
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119095/fullcredits#writers

(A)The Little Princess
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113670/
post #310 of 601
Chungking Express and At Close Range are two of my favorite movies.....my absolute favorite being Bringing Up Baby but, everyone has heard of that one.
post #311 of 601
My less-well-known faves are some already mentioned:

Something the Lord Made (Mos Def can act; who knew?)
Legend of 1900 (it has a piano duel!)
Gattaca (Uma!)

and some not yet mentioned:

Mostly Martha (romantic low key comedy, German with English subtitles)
The Station Agent (quirky romantic comedy)
Babette's Feast (subtitled)

One which might not qualify under the rules:

12 Monkeys (time travel)

And one whose title eludes me, about an English diplomat/functionary who falls for a young (I think Irish) woman in a lunch diner who eventually (in his company) makes a embarrassing/courageous political statement at a state dinner.

Can you guys help me out with this?
post #312 of 601
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Reminded me of:
FairyTale: A True Story

Thanks Koa. One more for my netflix. Some heavy hitters in that.
Here's another Harvey Keitel goody that doesn't seem to get much love:
The Duellists
One of Ridley Scotts earlier efforts.
Salud
post #313 of 601
All the right moves-

Made in Heaven
post #314 of 601
KINGS AND QUEEN is my favorite movie at the moment, from Arnaud Desplechin who is possibly the greatest active French director (although yes I know Godard isn't quite dead). If you have Netflix it is an instant view film, check it out. I watch a lot of movies, this is a truly great film--both funny and oddly deep.

Also THE COOK, THE THIEF, HIS WIFE AND HER LOVER. No explanation needed.
post #315 of 601
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Also THE COOK, THE THIEF, HIS WIFE AND HER LOVER. No explanation needed.

I can still hear the buzzzzzzzzing of the flies.

For the Robert Duvall fans, was Assassination Tango mentioned yet?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283897/

For Michael Caine and/or Brendon Fraser fans,

The Quiet American
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258068/
post #316 of 601
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Originally Posted by JimProuty View Post


And one whose title eludes me, about an English diplomat/functionary who falls for a young (I think Irish) woman in a lunch diner who eventually (in his company) makes a embarrassing/courageous political statement at a state dinner.

Can you guys help me out with this?

Haven't seen it but it sounds like "The Girl in the Café (2005)": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443518/

-Bill
post #317 of 601


This one is must see for story and sound!
post #318 of 601
Sin Nombre might still be in theaters. Check it out if its in your area.
post #319 of 601
Not sure if it's been mentioned but "Angel-a" with French actor Luc Besson is a great little film. In French with English subtitles.

-t

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473753/
post #320 of 601
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Originally Posted by auburnfan23 View Post

Dazed and confused was classic.. haha

It was so close to being a biography of my Jr. High School years that it's kind of scary.
post #321 of 601
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Sorry this is OT.

gaffo is this the Star Trek episode?

Season 2, Episode 25 - Bread and Circuses

Synopsis:
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The Enterprise encounters a planet whose culture is patterned on ancient Rome... and holds gladiatorial games that Kirk, Spock, and McCoy must fight in.
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Stardate 4040.7: The Enterprise is tracking down a missing ship, the Beagle, and find its wreckage but no crew. They follow the trail to a nearby planet where they pick up primitive “television” transmissions, talking about rebelling slaves and gladiatorial combat. A “barbarian” is killed in the games and Spock identifies the person as a crewmember on the missing ship.

Kirk, Spock, and McCoy beam down outside a large city, where they are ambushed by a group of runaway slaves led by the elderly Septimus and ex-gladiator Flavius, all of who worship the “Sun.” Kirk convinces them they’re from a “distant land” and they agree to send Flavius with them so they can look for the missing crew. Kirk mentions the captain of the missing ship, Captain R.M. Merik, who the slaves identify as Merikus, First Citizen. They still agree to help the Enterprise party but they are captured as they head for the city and the soldiers quickly recognize Spock as a “barbarian.”

The trio is imprisoned with Flavius, who is led off to the games. They make a break for it but they are quickly recaptured and they meet… Captain Merik, now a First Citizen under the proconsul, Claudius Marcus. They have a private meeting and Marcus reveals that he knows who they are and what the Federation is, compliments of Merik. Merik reveals they beamed down to repair their ship and met Marcus, who convinced Merik that their planet shouldn’t be “contaminated.” Merik beamed down the rest of his crew, who were sentenced to fight in the arena. Marcus expects Kirk to beam down his crew as well and the captain refuses. Marcus threatens Spock and McCoy if Kirk doesn’t call down a new landing party. Armed guards show up and Kirk gives Scotty a standby order. Kirk can’t beam down an armed party or attack from orbit without breaking the Prime Directive, which Marcus well knows. Kirk reestablishes contact and gives Scotty a Condition Green message, and an angry Marcus has them taken to the arena.

In orbit, Scotty knows the Condition Green means they’re in trouble but he’s prohibited from taking action. Scotty orders Chekov to pinpoint the city’s power sources.

Spock and McCoy are taken into the arena for the televised event while Kirk is forced to watch with Marcus and Merik. McCoy is forced to fight Flavius while Spock spars with another opponent. McCoy isn’t doing well and Marcus notes that Spock can’t help him. Kirk settles back and bluffs Marcus into believing he’s unconcerned. When Flavius gets the upper hand on McCoy, Spock quickly drops his opponent and then takes down Flavius. The referee asks for Marcus to settle the matter and the proconsul decides to keep them alive for the threat of a more painful death later.

Spock and McCoy are taken back to their cell while Kirk is taken to Marcus’ quarters where he finds a willing slave girl. She’s there as his slave girl for the night. In the cell, Spock ceaselessly tries to get out of the cell and McCoy tries to apologize to him. Spock dismisses his attempt and McCoy points out that Spock is more willing to die rather then let his human half slip out. Finally McCoy admits he’s concerned about Kirk.

Kirk spends the night with the slave girl, Drusilla, and later in the afternoon she leaves and Marcus greets him and notes one of their communicators are missing. Merik searches Kirk and doesn’t find it, and Marcus dismisses him. He then notes he wanted to give Kirk one last night as a man before dying in the arena, with a quick clean kill. The Master of the Arena prepares to kill Kirk but Flavius bursts in. The guards gun him down and Kirk grabs a gun… and Scotty cuts the power generators from orbit. Kirk makes his way to the cells and frees Spock and McCoy but guards come at them from both side. Marcus orders them to go to swords to avoid a crossfire and he tells Merik to watch and see how men die. The Enterprise crew manage to hold them off but the guards close in… and Merik uses the stolen communicator to signal Scotty for beam up. Marcus stabs him in the back but Merik tosses Kirk the communicator and the landing party beam out as the guards open fire.

Kirk gives Scotty a commendation for his quick thinking and they consider the slaves’ sun-worshipping belief. Uhura reveals that the “Sun” the slaves worship is the Son of God. The crew realize that just as on Earth, the Roman Empire will fall to a new more peaceful way.

nope. this is the one episode where the enterprise encounters the Romulons fo rhte first time and they don't even know what they look like until they get that visual and everyon the the bridge look a Spock - like hey! he looks like that Romulan!" - look from all on the bridge. "Balence of Terror"????? maybe is the name of the episode??

not sure. It is either season one or two. - first season I think.

sorry I can't remember more ;-/.
post #322 of 601
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

Not the best movie but...

The Bermuda Depths.

A Rankin-Bas production, made for TV movie that appeared only one night, ever. Everyone who saw it that night seems to remember it their whole life. The combination of it's haunting music, bizarre story and evocative production design and FX made for a one-of-a-kind vibe. It's haunted many a childhood memory. For anyone who saw it the words "Beautiful dark haired Girl" and "Giant Sea Turtle" ought to stir the memory.

is that the 70's TV movie where the Sea Turtle has a rope or chain on it and it happens to loop around the guy (posessed by evil spirit and with glowing eyes?) and drags the guy under the water to the depths??

scarred the crap out of me as a little kid watching..

that the same movie i saw so many years ago?

just wondering.
post #323 of 601
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_Terror

looks like the Run Silent Run Deep paralells were not just imagined by me - but were well known.

interesting.
post #324 of 601
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Haven't seen it but it sounds like "The Girl in the Café (2005)": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443518/

-Bill

You are exactly right! Thanks!
post #325 of 601
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Haven't seen it but it sounds like "The Girl in the Café (2005)": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443518/

-Bill

I've seen it. Very good movie. They're both in the BBC State of Play series too.

larry
post #326 of 601
I just watched Saints and Soldiers on DVD and was so impressed I decided to add its name to our collection of the best movies nobody ever heard of. This is a story about several soldiers who manage to escape from German captivity in the Ardennes Forrest in December 1944, at the time of the Battle of the Bulge. Those who were not so lucky were systematically killed by their captors, many by bullets to the head at short range. If this sounds like a gritty story to you, you would be right. The film takes a hard eyed look at the horrors of war and its attendant bloodshed but it also shows war's ability to bring out the best in men under the worst of circumstances. It's 90 minutes are consistently engaging and sometimes moving. IMDb voters have given it 7.0 on a scale of 10, Metacritic 8.1 out of 10. I couldn't agree more.

Shown at a number of film festivals in 2003 it was uniformly loved but still never had a wide release in the US. It finally came out on DVD in 2005. Some of the critics tended to underrate the film, I thought, primarily because they were, inappropriately to me at least, influenced by the Mormonism of its director and some of his actors. To me, though, a phobic where overt religiosity is concerned if anyone ever was, only a wonderful, beautifully filmed story was presented. Highly, highly recommend.
post #327 of 601
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I just watched Saints and Soldiers on DVD and was so impressed I decided to add its name to our collection of the best movies nobody ever heard of. This is a story about several soldiers who manage to escape from German captivity in the Ardennes Forrest in December 1944, at the time of the Battle of the Bulge. Those who were not so lucky were systematically killed by their captors, many by bullets to the head at short range. If this sounds like a gritty story to you, you would be right. The film takes a hard eyed look at the horrors of war and its attendant bloodshed but it also shows war's ability to bring out the best in men under the worst of circumstances. It's 90 minutes are consistently engaging and sometimes moving. IMDb voters have given it 7.0 on a scale of 10, Metacritic 8.1 out of 10. I couldn't agree more.

Shown at a number of film festivals in 2003 it was uniformly loved but still never had a wide release in the US. It finally came out on DVD in 2005. Some of the critics tended to underrate the film, I thought, primarily because they were, inappropriately to me at least, influenced by the Mormonism of its director and some of his actors. To me, though, a phobic where overt religiosity is concerned if anyone ever was, only a wonderful, beautifully filmed story was presented. Highly, highly recommend.

I didn't care for it, personally. I don't have a problem with the filmmakers being Mormons. I just thought the movie had a preachy, treacly script and amateurish dinner-theater quality acting.

'A Midnight Clear' is a much better movie with the same subject matter and themes. Give that one a shot.
post #328 of 601
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I didn't care for it, personally. I don't have a problem with the filmmakers being Mormons. I just thought the movie had a preachy, treacly script and amateurish dinner-theater quality acting.

'A Midnight Clear' is a much better movie with the same subject matter and themes. Give that one a shot.

What can I say? Without differences of opinion we wouldn't have movie criticism. While I enjoyed A Midnight Clear, too, I was riveted by Saints and Soldiers.

Far from the script being "treacly," I thought it was taut, tough, and economically written, with a runtime of only 90 minutes. All the actors were unknowns, at least to me, but I thought their performances were uniformly excellent. Saints and Soldiers either works for you or it doesn't and it certainly did work for me.
post #329 of 601
a few of my faves, though most are far from little known

Man Bites Dog
Happiness
Welcome To The Dollhouse
Living Out Loud
Monster's Ball
Leaving Las Vegas
The Professional
The Spitfire Grill
The Crossing Guard
Unforgiven
Kids
Dead Man
American Movie
American Beauty
American History X
Blue Crush (just for the waves and the lovely Kate Bosworth)

i could say more...
post #330 of 601
To add to my Sin Nombre suggestion here are some more Ive thought of.

Asian Movies Something I love about a lot of asian movies is the heightened sense of honor, pride and honesty the main characters have.

Twilight Samurai
The Hidden Blade
Love and Honor
A three part series from director Yôji Yamada. Amazing Group of movies. The only negative is that the movies are very similar.

Mountain Patrol Kekexili
This is in the Netflix instant Q. Visually amazing with a haunting story that has no simple answers. A must see.

Letters From Iwo Jima
I dont know how "unknown" this film is being a Clint Eastwood film and all but if you haven't seen it go pick up the blu-ray. Clint Eastwood is my favorite American director.

Riding Alone For Thousands Of Miles
Last but not least! My favorite ending to a movie ever. If you are a father you will cry like a school girl. I watched this over a year ago and I still think of this ending on a weekly basis. The movie is slower paced then most in the middle and the story telling is a little sloppy but like I said the most emotional Ive been at the end of a movie.

Documentaries A few of my favorites. All extremely heart wrenching.

Stevie
Born Into Brothels
Daughter from Danang

Other good movies


The Dish

The Lives of Others My favorite movie of the past few years. (Also on Blu!)

Kolya

Osama
Best movie I will never watch again.

Great Thread!
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