noremacyug's sub (eclipse SW8200) - Page 3

i have roomeq downloaded and have installed java, but when i try to install roomeq i get this......

"Your Java VM needs to be upgraded before this program can run"
"Would you like detailed help"
i click yes, it takes me to a page, i downloaded java AGAIN, install it. same friggin thing. i can't get it to work and it's starting to make me teste. ha, i said teste.

hahaha. well, i haven't run it throught the same test, but i did toy with it a moment and there is a big difference. the poor thing pretty much begins to dissapear at i think it was around 40hz. i'll run it though, just for poo's and giggles.

here we go......

onkyo piece-o-crap sub (doesn't contain original driver, swapped it out for a 10" street edge i believe it is, $50 car sub. still better than the original)

reciever volume at 53 (80max)
sub amp gain at 1/2
measurements taken from seating position approx 13ft away

80hz - 92db
60hz - 112db (considerable distortion)
40hz - 93db (lots of port noise)
20hz - 96db (port noise)

when i used this sub it was not uncommon at all to feel large gushes of air sweep over you from the port during heavy bass scenes.

of coarse it is much better than the onkyo, which i now see and hear during a a/b comparison. but, it still isn't providing me with the punch in the face, knee to the nuts bass i'm wanting. i will have to build another and perhaps another after that to achieve the levels i want. i want theater levels, concert levels, really, really loud levels of bass.

i also intend to update the mains, but i want to get the bass where i want it for now. i'm still mulling over building mains or purchasing some. i may go buy some insignia's just to tide me over for a while until i build/buy the speakers i really want.

(edit)-also, i unistalled java, reinstalled and am now updating it fully. hopefully room-eq will install and i'll be able to turn out some graphs. they will be completely useless to me as i understand them as much as i do the chinese language. but, they look pretty and you guys can interpret them.

oh i have the space, and if i don't i'll knock out a wall to get it. seriously though, setup is in a 20x20 room and has a nice 4ftx4ft square of space in the front right corner for a sub.

plus, i don't know what in the heck i'd do with my sub now that it's built.

it's hard to say for me. i'd have to sat down and listen some more. it is distortion free at pretty much everything except really loud levels of very bass heavy passages. and it may not even be the subs fault, but rather the amps inability to keep up. i can't say, perhaps it the fact that it's reproducing the music more accurately than the boomy onkyo and that fact coupled with this being my first sealed sub that i'm adjusting to. i just don't notice it's presence as much as i'd like to in the songs which again relates to it's low output (in my opinion).


my bad.


and on a slightly different note. does anyone know of a good fan to swap into the crest. when it kicks into "high" mode, the thing is louder than the fan/s on my jvc g1000 projector (which i'm sitting right beneath!!!)


(edit)- i'm sitting here listening to foo fighers double disc album, can't think of the name but it's the one that has "best of you" on it and one cd is acoustic. i'm listening to the acoustic disc and the sub sounds nice, not as loud as i want, but very nice. a few more might make their presence known enough that i'd start to grin. and i have to say, for htib speakers these little onkyo bookshelfs do pretty well. but i know there are much better ones out there. i havent ever heard any supurb quality speakers. only stuff like klipsch, infinity, yamaha etc. etc..... so that may also affect my opinion due to the lack of comparison.

boo ya!!! room-eq is working now, which does me no good because i haven't a clue how to use it.

yeah, i know. i just wanted to try something other than a ported enclosure and since i had a 10" that was doing pretty decent i figured the 12" would rock out plenty. already used all the gain i have out of the eq.


prolly right.

the only three that are usable are 125hz, ~63hz, ~31hz. i generally run the sub a bit hot. and yeah, when i watch a movie, i generally have it cranked up pretty good.

i am half way considering a crest cpx2600 to try on this thing. this amp kicks out when bridged at 4ohm. i was just listening to music at not very loud levels at all and the friggin amp would kick out. so i tried just going to one channel in stereo mode. it hasn't kicked out but it obviously takes more gain and the quality of sound seems to have suffered quite a bit. i just wonder what a 2200w@4ohm bridged cpx2600 would do with it.

this amp is really starting to piss me off more than anything. it wont even hold at 1/2 volume and the reciever only set to 45 while i listen to music. i put it back into bridged mode and killed the gcl. i dont think it's worth a crap for anything under a 8ohm load, and maybe not even that. either this driver really loves the juice, this amp sucks, or a combo of both.

yeah, but the insig's are so cheap that i wouldnt be out much, would likely get an improvement over my current onkyo's and then i could always use them elsewhere.

i concur!!!!! i am seriously beginning to believe the crest is the root of some/much of the problems. a better amp might really bring this sub to life.

any amp model recommendations? i just saw a crown powerbase pb3. rated at 1525x1@8ohms. i'm just wondering how it would do in 4ohm load.

yeah, i'm wanting headroom. i want to squeeze every drop out of this driver to see what it will do and so i'll know whether or not to keep it or look into a new project.

i suppose your right, there is no replacement for displacement. i suppose i'm going to start looking for another driver. if anyone is looking for a new sub and cabinet i have one for sale.

yeah, i just don't know. i pm'd kyle about the possibility of porting. i know that would give considerable output gain. but i imagine that the port would be so long that i prolly couldn't fit it in the enclosure.