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post #121 of 329
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Originally Posted by ccg106 View Post

Consider this: the shadows are in the original material and the Olevia's electronics are fast enough to show the shadow - on par with someone like Sony's. Other systems do not have fast electronics and can not show the shadows.

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Hope that explanation helps...

No, really, this is not what's going on. Please don't attempt further explanation.
post #122 of 329
I know this is a stupid question, but I just want to confirm it. This problem effects standard def feed through the RF port too right?
post #123 of 329
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Originally Posted by Suma View Post

I know this is a stupid question, but I just want to confirm it. This problem effects standard def feed through the RF port too right?

The effects are input independent, correct.
post #124 of 329
Just picked up a 532H for my bedroom and I am not seeing any SDTV/480i problems with an S video feed from an old DirecTV receiver. The HD channels using the tuner look great as well. The sharpness has to be dropped way down to almost no bar showing on my set. Up close to the screen I can see some blocking because of the high compression on some DirectV channels but for the most part all is well with my set. Blacks are OK for a bedroom TV set. No way near the 1600:1 contrast rating though. In fact I read a test report that said it only measured around 600:1. I hate the blue light when the power is off. I need to put some tape over it for the bedroom. Other than that I can't complain and the low price was nice. All other aspects of the picture look perfect to me. Nice colors and a very sharp picture and artifacts don't rear there ugly heads very often at all. Especially with the sharpness turned way down. Nice picture!

Ron
post #125 of 329
Im looking to get a 32" model but facing a dillema. The old 332H uses PixelWorks DNX Technology but has no HD tuner and the new 532H uses Xilleon Technology and does have the hd tuner..Im primarily looking to use the tv for high def/HDMI gaming..Suggestions please.
post #126 of 329
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Originally Posted by Chunko View Post

Im looking to get a 32" model but facing a dillema. The old 332H uses PixelWorks DNX Technology but has no HD tuner and the new 532H uses Xilleon Technology and does have the hd tuner..Im primarily looking to use the tv for high def/HDMI gaming..Suggestions please.

Depends, if you're never going to watch TV, or already have/will buy a sepereate HDTV set-top-box(Or VCR if you only watch SD channels) the the 3 series maybe ok for you. But if you want to use it to actually watch TV and you don't want to buy a seperate and usually expensive HDTV tuner then the 5 series is probalbly in your favor. But you also have to keep in mind the the risks that you may bet a bum 532H set.
post #127 of 329
i guess i should ask, is there a noticeable difference between PixelWorks DNX Technology and Xilleon Technology ?
post #128 of 329
Any word on firmware updates?
post #129 of 329
So if you're using a HD box on this tv, there shouldn't be a problem???..??
post #130 of 329
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So if you're using a HD box on this tv, there shouldn't be a problem???..??

From all the posts I've read, I would say you are correct.
post #131 of 329
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So if you're using a HD box on this tv, there shouldn't be a problem???..??

You are correct. When I fed my 532H with my SD Tivo, I could see the 'ghosting' issue quite clearly on some material. Now that I have an HR20 and only send 720p or 1080i to the tv, the ghosting is no longer visible, even on SD content.
post #132 of 329
Has anyone else noticed two black bars constantly going up and down the screen with all analog sources? Its especially noticeable with a black background. I've been seeing it from the vga connection to my pc and the component connection from QAM.
post #133 of 329
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The word from syntax is disgraseful!

They claim it's NORMAL for the ati card and they will NOT be fixing this bug! I will be calling support and harassing them until something gets done and I expect that all customers experienceing the same defect.

If I do not get a satisfactory responce from syntax tomorrow I will be filing a claim in small claims to get my purchase price back so that I can buy a REAL TV.
post #134 of 329
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Originally Posted by madh83 View Post

Has anyone else noticed two black bars constantly going up and down the screen with all analog sources? Its especially noticeable with a black background. I've been seeing it from the vga connection to my pc and the component connection from QAM.

Those scrolling horizontal bars typically are caused by interference on analog signals. Could be bad cables, bad cable run, signal cable too close to power cable, FM interference, etc. I'm sure someody on the forum knows more about this than I do.
If I don't use digital cable boxes, I have the same problem.
post #135 of 329
On the horizontal scrolling bars.....

I just received the 323H and have the same thing on the composite and svideo inputs. Not quite as bad with svideo but still readily noticeable. Tried different cable combos, no change. HDMI looks fine.

It is going back.

CT
post #136 of 329
The rolling bars were not as apparent on my component cables, which are admittedly not as long. There is only one line and quite faint. On another note: wouldn't this problem be on almost any tv? I think its an issue of my vga cable than anything else. So I wouldn't use this as a measure of the tv itself.

Regarding Snowmoon's problem, I tried playing my Gladiator dvd, from two sources over vga and component. I should note that my pc has an nvidia card that does noise filtering and my dvd player has its own video processing unit as well. I did notice a very slight but very watchable blurring when the people are moving compared to a still-image. However this didn't seem to be any worse than my lcd monitor. I did not notice any sort of jitter from my picture. I tend to get pretty anal about picture quality and sat quite close, but admittedly was not really sure exactly what to look for.
post #137 of 329
I was wondering if the Westinghouse LTV-32w6 would have the same problem. It also uses the ATI Xilleon chipset. I checked the official thread that the model is part of, and so far I've seen two people talk about ghosting problems when watching dvds in 480p. Maybe it is a crummy card.
post #138 of 329
I just looked at the ATI chip- Olevia LCD at Office Depot. Wow! That flicker and video noise is completely unnacceptable, even for a budget model. I have scratched these televisions from my short list. The TV was playing The Incredibles. Awful!
post #139 of 329
I've had the 332h for about a month now using a comcast hd box and I have not had any problems amd the picture looks great.
post #140 of 329
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I've had the 332h for about a month now using a comcast hd box and I have not had any problems amd the picture looks great.

Yes, and if the comcast box is outputting 1080i like most HD cable boxes do .... you will not see the effect. It's there.
post #141 of 329
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Originally Posted by snowmoon View Post

Yes, and if the comcast box is outputting 1080i like most HD cable boxes do .... you will not see the effect. It's there.

332h is using Pixelworks DNX chip...
post #142 of 329
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Originally Posted by ShenLong View Post

332h is using Pixelworks DNX chip...

Oops... I thought it was 3x 4x 5x... it is just the 4x and 5x that have the ATI.
post #143 of 329
Wow, the response from Syntax is incredibly disappointing. I'm avoiding the problem by using only 1080i/720p, but just knowing there is a serious flaw in the video processing makes me feel less good about the purchase. I was seriously considering a 7 series purchase in the near future, but now I'm not so sure I want to give them any more of my hard-earned money. Unfortunately, I wouldn't hold out too much hope for a small claims court solution unless the judge is an avs forum member.
post #144 of 329
I just got a 532H today. I was a little leary after reading these posts, but I liked the 26" Olevia I had so I decided to try this one. I would have to put myself in the "I can't see the defect camp". SD looks just like it looks on most of the LCD sets I have seen or owned. I'm just running mine in the rf jack in back. There is blur there, but I think it is just a fact of having a crappy analog signal and LCD response times that still aren't perfect.

It does have a 1:1 mode, which I assume is refering to using pixels on a one to one basis to display the image. On regular SD TV the displayed image is only about 13-15" wide in this mode, but probably the best SD I've seen on an LCD. I can see now why if all 1366x768 lcds are streching this image out just to a 4:3 image that fills the screen even with black bars on the side, why it gets so crappy so fast.
post #145 of 329
You could try contacting ATI/AMD themselves to ask about the issue, it might encourage them to update the firmware on their own, which is what Olevia would have needed to wait for anyway, and send it out to their clients.
post #146 of 329
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Originally Posted by waterguy48 View Post

I've had the 332h for about a month now using a comcast hd box and I have not had any problems amd the picture looks great.


Forgive me if I mis-read something earlier in the thread that answered this, but. How does the picture look watching SD programming from the Comcast HD box? I have the Comcast HD DVR box hooked up to a Sony HD set via DVI-to-HDMI cable. It sends HD programming at 720p and SD programming at 480p.

When you watch SD programming on the 332h, does it look okay (relative to being SD) or does it have any sort of problems?

I was about to order either a 332h or 532h to use with our other Comcast HD DVR box, but this thread has me concerned now.
post #147 of 329
I have had the 532h for about a two weeks now and I noticed a white blotch line streak through the screen every so often. I am using a generic PS2/Xbox component splitter cable, and the glitch usually happens on the xbox, but I noticed a similar problem on the PS2.

The problem has happened on both the s-video cables and the newer component cables. I don't know if I have a faulty unit or its something that firmware can take care of (I have the original/default firmware that came with the unit.) Any help or suggestions?
post #148 of 329
The image quality is very poor in those types of set up do to something with the signal being transferred to all the other monitors. I have the Olevia and I am very picky, but over all the quality is very nice, although it is still a budget model.
post #149 of 329
I have a 2.1 speaker system set up with my 532h and I turned the volume all the way down on the set, but I still get a static noise from it. Whenever I am turning down the sound, there is no noise, but once it sets, there is an annoying static noise. Anyone else notice this?
post #150 of 329
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Originally Posted by KrisJones View Post

I have a 2.1 speaker system set up with my 532h and I turned the volume all the way down on the set, but I still get a static noise from it. Whenever I am turning down the sound, there is no noise, but once it sets, there is an annoying static noise. Anyone else notice this?

On my old 26" Olevia I did have a hiss that was present when no sound was being set to it (PC onitor)unless I had the sound zero'd out or on mute. Since the monitor starts at level one when yoy turn it on, the first thing I had to do was turn the volume down. With the 532h I got this week, I no longer have that problem and do not hear any hiss from it, even when I leave the volume up high from the TV and switch to using it a a PC monitor.
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